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#701
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we need more lovely pictures of Joker

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#702
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Yay Joker pics! You should see the one Nyghault did for me of Joker and Kara - I'm too tired to remember how to link the image so I'm just sayin' to take a look lol

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do u mean this Posted Image
by http://nyhgault.deviantart.com/

That is very nice indeed.

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Yus, that one!! Nyhgault does just awesome work :D

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Why is Shepard always a blonde in the Joker pics??
I'm surprised because in most other pictures of femShep people seem to favor dark hair.

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i favor dark hair hehe, that person does some awesome Garrus pictures too. :D. But that art is fine work

Modifié par chibievil, 21 juin 2011 - 03:40 .


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phantomdragoness wrote...

Omega Torsk wrote...

Paterik wrote...

I wouldn't mind if Joker hooked up with someone when he's not romanced by Shepard. Like Fenris and Isabela did in Act 3 in DA2. I'm not sure I can see how that could be integrated in the game, but still...

Paterik, this inspired me… *cracks knuckles* time to give a shot at this initiation scene!

*wall-of-text*


You write the best dialogues! This made me squee and go "awww!" all at once! It was a strange noise, but it summed up my feelings. :wizard:

Well, thank you! I'm glad you liked it! 
Though, I'm a little disappointed with the ending. It was kind of rushed because I wanted to go to bed. Glad to see someone liked it, though! :)

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@Kappa - The reason why my Kara Shepard is blond is because I based her off of Kara Thrace, aka Starbuck from Battlestar Galactica, both in looks and personality. Mind you, the last few pictures you've seen with a female and Joker on here have been either gifts to me or commissions I've had done.

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@Omega Torsk, I'm glad I inspired you :D I enjoyed your scene very much. That is exactly type of romance dialogue I would like to have with Jeff in ME3. I actually liked the ending, especially his always casual "see ya, commander" like nothing happened to cover his feelings :). And EDI "renegade" interupt was just priceless.

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@CeltWolf79 Katee Sackhoff. would be a good Shepard if they make a move :P And I love BSG and Starbuck.

Return to the topic: OmegaTorsk I like it too very much! (me want more! :P)

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RynJ wrote...

Oh WidowMaker9394 I do have to agree with you about something. I love Kaidan, but he does have douchy hair!

Sorry if we offended you, but you might be offending some people in this thread also. Let's not argue anymore about it, just leave the thread if you don't like the idea.


XD Oh man, wouldn't have just been easier to never even post in this thread if you don't like the idea?

But anyhoo, I loved Kaidans hair. Pompadours <3

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Paterik wrote...

@Omega Torsk, I'm glad I inspired you :D I enjoyed your scene very much. That is exactly type of romance dialogue I would like to have with Jeff in ME3. I actually liked the ending, especially his always casual "see ya, commander" like nothing happened to cover his feelings :). And EDI "renegade" interupt was just priceless.


Woot! Thanks! And yeah, I imagined EDI was thinking; "Really, Jeff? You can't tell she's talking about herself? If you aren't going to make the move, I will!"

DevilYoko wrote...

Return to the topic: OmegaTorsk I like it too very much! (me want more! :P)

Thanks, but I'm not sure I'll be able to go further with it. It'll just make me even more anxious for March to get here to see how Bioware is going to handle it... and that is if we even get a Jokermance.

*looks at calendar*

Arrrgh! Still June!

#713
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@Omega Torsk You can do it! It's to much time till March and You making us happy with those ;)

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RhiPanda wrote...

I actually am beginning to actually think there is going to be one, cause a lot of people have wanted it since Mass Effect first came out and besides Bioware sometimes give fans what they want, like with Tali and Garrus. =D



Did i miss something, what did they give us except "i've shotgun" rejection (and that's only reachable in Citadel i suppose) ? Everytime I get bored of mining, l set course for Ilium and listen that funny Turian's flirting to Quarian in bar. Imagining that conversation between Garrus and Tali is really funny and this romance is worth to wait from Bioware.

To Joker romance... I want the Joker-EDI relationship to improve like Cortana-Chief relationship. In some fan fics, yeoman falls in love with Joker, but she is not a girl that Joker would love. She is dead also yes. Besides, Joker is not a lover-boy, he is just into Normandy SR, and the only woman could distract him is EDI. I don't believe the idea Shepard is a female in another universe, so I pass that LI option.



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Shep-ley wrote...

Did i miss something, what did they give us except "i've shotgun" rejection (and that's only reachable in Citadel i suppose) ? Everytime I get bored of mining, l set course for Ilium and listen that funny Turian's flirting to Quarian in bar. Imagining that conversation between Garrus and Tali is really funny and this romance is worth to wait from Bioware.

To Joker romance... I want the Joker-EDI relationship to improve like Cortana-Chief relationship. In some fan fics, yeoman falls in love with Joker, but she is not a girl that Joker would love. She is dead also yes. Besides, Joker is not a lover-boy, he is just into Normandy SR, and the only woman could distract him is EDI. I don't believe the idea Shepard is a female in another universe, so I pass that LI option.



I just want you to know that EDI is NOT a woman. It is a computer, AI are like that :P

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phantomdragoness wrote...

Sorry, I meant cliche as in it happens often. :D

I had the impression you meant that; I was just trying to be encouraging. Like, "Don't worry, even though it's a common story, that's only because it's realistic, so that in itself wouldn't be a reason for them to say 'No Joker for you, children!'" Of course, that's silly of me, because I can never seem to decide whether I believe it will happen or not.

It's just so hard not to have a little faith and to maintain a proper amount of pessimism when not only did Fenris turn out to be romanceable, but also awesome, without any wives, children, or inevitable premature demises to speak of.

 

Omega Torsk wrote...

EDI:
Shepard; my thermal sensor readings of you have just now detected a
sudden spike in temperature, which may indicate a fever. I suggest
visiting Dr. Chakwas for preventative measures.
Shepard: (through gritted teeth) Thanks… EDI… [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]

Your solution is quite elegant; I wouldn't mind it if they did it this way because then I wouldn't have to feel guilty whenever I don't romance Joker. (As with my lesbian FemShep/ ShepDude-who-sees-Joker-as-a-bro.) I would love Bioware forever if they did it that way... well, even more than before, anyway.

Also, the above is by far my favorite part of what you wrote. I wanted to virtually high-five EDI. :D

S.A.K wrote...

Joker romance?!?! The poor dude will brake every bone in his body if he's romanced :P

WidowMaker9394 wrote...

Have fun breaking his bones when you're boning him.

Wow, this is suddenly really handy.
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See, when gravity isn't taking its toll on our fine friend Joker, the issue of breaking bones isn't really much of an issue. Sure, he and Shepard will have to learn to use their muscles in different ways than they're used to, but that's just part of the fun. It's kinda kinky, but in a sweet, innocent, playful sort of way.

Furthermore, regardless of what you may have watched in movies or possibly 'movies', sex does not have to be a brutal jackhammer-motion in order to be enjoyable. Depending on the positions taken, and the flexibility of both partners, it can be gentle on the bones of one partner and still incredible.

Shep-ley wrote...

Besides, Joker is not a lover-boy, he is
just into Normandy SR, and the only woman could distract him is EDI. I
don't believe the idea Shepard is a female in another universe, so I
pass that LI option.

I think a lot of people you wouldn't think of as lover-boys find love. Since Joker said "this is why I don't date crew," it's clear enough that he's had dates before. I doubt he's a virgin.

Not that this hasn't been said before, but since there's always someone new: EDI doesn't have a limbic system. She has no hormones. She has no physical parts. She cannot feel emotion because that requires biological components which she does not possess. She is not even constructed from a cloned brain of a real human being, as Cortana was.

Conclusion: EDI is not a "woman" who could distract Joker because a computer is not a woman at all, nor even a pet, as pets can feel something when you touch the physical parts that they actually have. Dogs and cats, among others, have a fight-or-flight response, a mating instinct, the ability to comprehend affection and safety and danger. EDI has none of those things, no viscera, nada.

Even if EDI were given a body, one fully of age, it would still be a manmade construct and its "life experience" would be that of really intelligent child. Intelligence does not equal a readiness to deal with adulthood. EDI is innocent enough that if it were "born", Joker would have to wait a long time for it to have anything like a self-developed personality rather than the programming that makes it what it is.

No matter how cute EDI can be, and even if they put EDI into a body, that would not make EDI a love interest for anyone. Besides, click on the link in my signature if you'd like to refresh your memory on the conversation--Joker himself said to the idea that he was getting too close to EDI, a sincerely (not falsely) casual "Nah, it's not like that," followed by an expression that the thought of them being excessively close was creepy. Not in a "repressed sexual tension" kind of way, but a very relaxed, amused sort of way.

Whatever happens to Joker, I could not stand it if it were a borderline pedophilic robot girlfriend relationship. I'd rather see Joker with Kelly or some random crew member than to have something that disturbing be his fate. It would be especially sad for a guy with a disability--it would be indirectly implying that a guy like him can't get a real girl and has to turn to virtual pornography. I'd rather almost anything happen than that. I'd rather the Reapers try to bomb earth with cupcakes and make tea for Big Ben.

I respect your opinions about Joker for the rest of it, you have a right to them, but the idea of him with EDI--I think if you really consider it, you'll find that it's not at all like Cortana and the Chief in the details, and even if it were, imitating a well-known franchise like Halo would not exactly set Mass Effect apart from the herd. Accusations of a ripoff would not be far behind.

WidowMaker9394 wrote...

In what way was it not intelligent?

It
made sense, it was straightforward and I do not believe that I need to
list any reasoning because any individual with even an ounce of taste
for a good story would realize how cheesy it is.

Ahhh. Gotta love that "anyone who has taste would realize it sucks so I don't have to justify my arbitrary opinions!" attitude. No hubris involved there.

See, dividing us into two categories--those with taste and those without--and placing oneself in the former category while refusing to admit that anyone in the latter category could have taste completely frees the commenter from offering up any intelligent debate which could, say, be disputed and have its flaws in logic pointed out. And this is of course not at all transparent to us lesser buffoons without taste, for we are inferior beings, mere apes scratching our confused little heads. Say, I think I heard a story about this sort of thing when I was a little kid... it's called "The Emperor's New Clothes."

It certainly can't be that there is room for a Joker romance which is anything but cheesy, and even less so that such an idea is half the point for some or most of us. Due to the fact that in WidowMaker9394's imagination there is no room for a romance with Joker that isn't liberally flavored with gouda, that means no one else on the planet could possibly be intelligent or creative enough to write one, certainly no one on the Mass Effect team. Well, time to pack in the thread. Shrug our shoulders and wander away with our tails tucked between our legs. We have been enlightened as to how wrong we are, us and our humble 29-page thread. Oh, how the scales have fallen from our eyes...

What else was I going to say? I know there was some sort of phrase rattling around in my pea-sized monkey brain... oh, yes; after some hard thinking, I seem to remember... "obvious troll is obvious." And how do we deal with trolls? We ignore them and go back to talking about the thing we won't stop discussing just because a few people don't like the idea.

Now, if any actual points you want to make come to mind, feel free to speak up. Otherwise, don't let the door hit you. :)

Modifié par Wynne, 21 juin 2011 - 08:42 .


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DevilYoko wrote...

Shep-ley wrote...

Did i miss something, what did they give us except "i've shotgun" rejection (and that's only reachable in Citadel i suppose) ? Everytime I get bored of mining, l set course for Ilium and listen that funny Turian's flirting to Quarian in bar. Imagining that conversation between Garrus and Tali is really funny and this romance is worth to wait from Bioware.

To Joker romance... I want the Joker-EDI relationship to improve like Cortana-Chief relationship. In some fan fics, yeoman falls in love with Joker, but she is not a girl that Joker would love. She is dead also yes. Besides, Joker is not a lover-boy, he is just into Normandy SR, and the only woman could distract him is EDI. I don't believe the idea Shepard is a female in another universe, so I pass that LI option.



I just want you to know that EDI is NOT a woman. It is a computer, AI are like that :P


Sorry but you are looking from small picture. Saying EDI is just an AI is not good man, not good.:police:

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...saying EDI is just an AI is the same as saying that the sun is a star or the earth is round. It is simply stating a fact. There's nothing "not good" about a fact, unless it's a fact like "a meteor is going to hit earth tomorrow." EDI being an AI is a neutral truth: EDI is an Artificial Intelligence. A construct. A sophisticated computer which can think, but not feel emotion or desire. If you disagree and think she is more than that, please elaborate as to why.

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Wynne, I think I love you.

Seriously though, you pretty much summed up what I was thinking (and probably everyone else here wanting some Joker action). It still puzzles me why people go into threads that they don't agree with just to state that they don't agree with it. Silly trolls~

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This whole EDI thing makes me being up my own argument: Legion needs some lovin too. Come on, how can EDI resist Robo-Wesker?

I need to stop posting when I'm slap happy D:

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@Wynne, Ah how is it you say everything I wanna say but in a much more eloquent way than I would ever be capable of :happy:

Anyway to the people who say EDI belongs with Joker, their relationship is for one not romantic at all, Joker even says she's like his mum at points, so yeah that would be just a bit weird, plus theres the fact that EDI is not a woman, she is a computer. <_<

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#722
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EDI and Joker just aren't going to get together.

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I find it odd how people argue that EDI and Joker are a couple. They both pretty much already said they aren't . EDI itself (note *it*) said that it couldn't experience romantic/sexual feelings for Joker, and instead just "platonic symbiosis". It's like me saying that Shepard and Legion get on well, so it should be a romance option. I imagine people would be more resistant to that than EDI/Joker, and the only reason I can think of, is that people think Joker can't do any better himself, so he has to construct himself a girlfriend.

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FlamingFlyingV wrote...

This whole EDI thing makes me being up my own argument: Legion needs some lovin too. Come on, how can EDI resist Robo-Wesker?

I need to stop posting when I'm slap happy D:


I seriously want this. Well, kinda. I loved their few interactions in the game, and I want to see them in more scenes together. I think they find each other fascinating.

Fluffenstein wrote...

EDI and Joker just aren't going to get together.

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*SPITTAKE* :lol:

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Ahahaha that EDI pic made me laugh so hard