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 I think I'll be doing the Picard style no of complete anger if there is no Jokermance. Followed by the no of defeat

Edit: Some Joker for your top of the page viewing pleasure

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Modifié par SpaceinMind, 06 août 2011 - 09:12 .


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Sorrel (uglynoodles) wrote...

I have received news so devastating that I may actually shut up for ten minutes on Twitter #nonobodysdied (6 hours ago)

then...

STILL IN DENIAL#notjustariver (5 hours ago)

then...

@patsquinade @arch4ngel I want to see this reply of yours and I want to see it basically five seconds ago (5 hours ago)


This does not sound good.

Gearing up for my heartfelt NOOOO!

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Ser Bard wrote...

Sorrel (uglynoodles) wrote...

I have received news so devastating that I may actually shut up for ten minutes on Twitter #nonobodysdied (6 hours ago)

then...

STILL IN DENIAL#notjustariver (5 hours ago)

then...

@patsquinade @arch4ngel I want to see this reply of yours and I want to see it basically five seconds ago (5 hours ago)


This does not sound good.

Gearing up for my heartfelt NOOOO!


Indeed. I have a bad feeling about this. But if it was Joker related I wonder why we got all those positive sounding hints and comments from several different people at Bioware and Seth was really happy about his ME3 Joker part.

I wonder if Patsquinade will really reveal something that would be a major spoiler in his tweets. If it is something that the public should not know why should it be mentioned at twitter? Even if it is locked and only open to some followers? Patsquinade does not have only Bioware employees as followers so this is an information that would be given outside Bioware. And if the public is allowed to know they can freely post/tweet about it.

So - this is strange.

@Sorrel: I hope you are ok what ever happened.

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Hold it, hold it, hold it. Page 90 and we are NOT switching topics!

Sorrel wrote...

I think... All I'm gonna say is 'be louder.' Be louder than we have been.

Sorrel, my friend... please explain to your fellow, yet un-enlightened Shokerites what you mean... and please...
Explain
Your
Tweets!!!

*inhales deeply*

Please... you can tell us...

Yes... you can!

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Edit: Okay, that freaked me out! Sorry about the creepiness... but the anticipation... I mean, you can't just drop a bombshell like that and expect us to not be on the edge of our seats!

Modifié par Omega Torsk, 06 août 2011 - 09:36 .


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Omega Torsk wrote...

Hold it, hold it, hold it. Page 90 and we are NOT switching topics!

Sorrel wrote...

I think... All I'm gonna say is 'be louder.' Be louder than we have been.

Sorrel, my friend... please explain to your fellow, yet un-enlightened Shokerites what you mean... and please...
Explain
Your
Tweets!!!

*inhales deeply*

Please... you can tell us...

Yes... you can!

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At least it would be helpful to know if it is Joker related or not.

Casey said in a tweet recently that they are in a final stage of production with ME3 and that he cannot change things anymore. I am sure they will still have decisions for minor things but the whole story and dialogue part seems to be finalised. So I suppose the decision of a Jokerromance or not is already done and may not be changeable at this time.

So we have the following possibilities:

a) Jokerromance yes, but only with crew/squadmate/EDI not Shepard: 

I don't see why Bioware should do this - it would be feeling forced, as Joker already told Shepard that he don't date crew and as nearly everyone in ME2 can be killed off this would only have an impact for those players where those crewmembers/squadmates are alive. Or it is a new character that will be introduced in ME3 but seriously, this would really feel forced. And EDI? She does not even has a human body and everything else would really be strange. And I don't see how and why she could/should get such a body.

And please do not forget: this is Shepards story and Bioware is trying to put more dialogue and everything else in the game so I don't think that they will focus on NPC-NPC romances.

B) no Joker romance

If this is the case I really have no idea why we got several hints and comments (not only Casey, see OP for some more examples) that a Joker romance will likely be part of ME3. If they had not said anything at all ok but not after all the information we got. This would just be really really mean. 

c) Jokermance with Shepard

This is still what I think it is more likely than everything else based on the comments and hints we got - and assuming that Bioware is not lying.


d) Joker dies at the end:

I believe this would only happen in a really bad ending of ME3 and we know that we will have multiple endings. A favourite character like Joker will likely not killed of in all endings. Bioware normally give us the choice like in ME2. And - this is would be such a huge spoiler that patsquinade is surely not allowed to give, not even in a protected twitter account.

Modifié par Eliantariel, 06 août 2011 - 09:36 .


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This thread has become uber confusing!

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@Omega: ...You weren't kidding about Nicolas Cage. *shudders*

I've got a bad feeling.

I think I'm ready to cry.

But...the tweets...****, this is BioWare we're talking about. They're going to make us fall head-over-heels for one character, then they're going to kill them off, or, make them so heartbreakingly different.

I'm looking at you Anders. I still love you, but...GODDAMNIT. :crying:

If there's no romance, I'll get over it! But if BioWare pulls another Anders on Joker I swear...

EDIT:

And if this is all a ploy...WTF.


I found this browsing deviantART:

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Modifié par phantomdragoness, 06 août 2011 - 11:38 .


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OMG - this is what happens when I go to sleep? I leave a happy Joker thread and come back to a confusing scary one? Gonna go back and read past page to catch up - not sure i want to but will!!!Image IPB

Edit -Sorrel, please tell us, please Image IPB

Modifié par Victia, 06 août 2011 - 11:49 .


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Whaat, what is this :( I go to bed away from a happy Joker-mance thread and come back to this? :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
If Joker isn't gonna be a romance I-I'll be really sad and dissapointed in BIoware =_=
@Sorrel, you haave to tell us what you mean, pleeeaaase:(

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Ok, now I'm confused... xD And I've got a baaaad feeling... :(

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Sorrel wrote...

*PicSnip*
May be a little absent for the next little while. Guys, wear them Joker banners. Wear 'em fuggin' proud.

phantomdragoness wrote...

Sorrel wrote...

I think... All I'm gonna say is 'be louder.' Be louder than we have been.



This has nothing to do with your tweet, does it?


Sorrel.... how do you say you're going to be absent for a little while then this happens?! We need answers! :o

Edit: And this is all from @patsquinade's tweet!! See you guys, I told you when he made his Twitter into private we were losing a good source of info :crying:

Modifié par Raine_Rose_Hart, 06 août 2011 - 02:09 .


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Raine_Rose_Hart wrote...

Sorrel wrote...

*PicSnip*
May be a little absent for the next little while. Guys, wear them Joker banners. Wear 'em fuggin' proud.

phantomdragoness wrote...

Sorrel wrote...

I think... All I'm gonna say is 'be louder.' Be louder than we have been.



This has nothing to do with your tweet, does it?


Sorrel.... how do you say you're going to be absent for a little while then this happens?! We need answers! :o

Edit: And this is all from @patsquinade's tweet!! See you guys, I told you when he made his Twitter into private we were losing a good source of info :crying:


Pretty much...but after thinking about it...would he really come right out and say if there was no romance? I doubt he'd be allowed to. It has to be something else.

I warily hope.

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Unless he said that EDI/Joker was gonna be a thing in ME3 that would be bad bad news :(

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phantomdragoness wrote...

But...the tweets...****, this is BioWare we're talking about. They're going to make us fall head-over-heels for one character, then they're going to kill them off, or, make them so heartbreakingly different.

I'm looking at you Anders. I still love you, but...GODDAMNIT. :crying:

If there's no romance, I'll get over it! But if BioWare pulls another Anders on Joker I swear...



OMG He's going to be ANDERISED! :crying:

We all know Mass Effect isn't ending with Shepard so perhaps Joker is going to be a NPC in future games. There's no romance with Shepard or anyone else because it adds too much baggage to him.

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phantomdragoness wrote...

Raine_Rose_Hart wrote...

Sorrel wrote...

*PicSnip*
May be a little absent for the next little while. Guys, wear them Joker banners. Wear 'em fuggin' proud.

phantomdragoness wrote...

Sorrel wrote...

I think... All I'm gonna say is 'be louder.' Be louder than we have been.



This has nothing to do with your tweet, does it?


Sorrel.... how do you say you're going to be absent for a little while then this happens?! We need answers! :o

Edit: And this is all from @patsquinade's tweet!! See you guys, I told you when he made his Twitter into private we were losing a good source of info :crying:


Pretty much...but after thinking about it...would he really come right out and say if there was no romance? I doubt he'd be allowed to. It has to be something else.

I warily hope.


This is exactly was I am thinking too...

Bioware has been very silent concerning the whole LI topic. I am sure that all Bioware employees have a list of things that they are allowed to spoil and some others that they should not tell somebody outside Bioware. Even if a twitter account is set to private - there are still followers of patsquinade that do not belong to Bioware. So it would be kind of public.

If Joker is a LI or not would be a huge spoiler - I can't see patsquinade telling directly something like this.

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RhiPanda wrote...

Unless he said that EDI/Joker was gonna be a thing in ME3 that would be bad bad news :(


True - but it would not make sense. They may be friends but lovers? How should this work? I mean, surely Joker "loves" the Normandy, because the ship and flying in general is everything for him, but that would even be the case without EDI.

No - I can't see this happening. I don't want it. I just pretend that this is not going to happen because I trust Bioware to make the right decision.

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Eliantariel wrote...

RhiPanda wrote...

Unless he said that EDI/Joker was gonna be a thing in ME3 that would be bad bad news :(


True - but it would not make sense. They may be friends but lovers? How should this work? I mean, surely Joker "loves" the Normandy, because the ship and flying in general is everything for him, but that would even be the case without EDI.

No - I can't see this happening. I don't want it. I just pretend that this is not going to happen because I trust Bioware to make the right decision.


I really really hope you're right but I gotta know what Sorrel was meaning :crying:

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Ser Bard wrote...

phantomdragoness wrote...

But...the tweets...****, this is BioWare we're talking about. They're going to make us fall head-over-heels for one character, then they're going to kill them off, or, make them so heartbreakingly different.

I'm looking at you Anders. I still love you, but...GODDAMNIT. :crying:

If there's no romance, I'll get over it! But if BioWare pulls another Anders on Joker I swear...



OMG He's going to be ANDERISED! :crying:

We all know Mass Effect isn't ending with Shepard so perhaps Joker is going to be a NPC in future games. There's no romance with Shepard or anyone else because it adds too much baggage to him.


Hmh, difficult to say as we don't know what will happen in ME3. I have the impression that there will be a solution for the Reaper problem. A kind of open end would not be satisfying. I am curious about what could be the story/focus in a new Mass Effect game - maybe a MMORPG like Star Wars and the character has to survive in a galaxy that tries to rebuilt from the Reaper attack and you are facing chaos all around?

Joker can have a cameo even if he is in a relationship with Shepard. But it would be great if he would become a major NPC or even a LI in the new game. 

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RhiPanda wrote...

Eliantariel wrote...

RhiPanda wrote...

Unless he said that EDI/Joker was gonna be a thing in ME3 that would be bad bad news :(


True - but it would not make sense. They may be friends but lovers? How should this work? I mean, surely Joker "loves" the Normandy, because the ship and flying in general is everything for him, but that would even be the case without EDI.

No - I can't see this happening. I don't want it. I just pretend that this is not going to happen because I trust Bioware to make the right decision.


I really really hope you're right but I gotta know what Sorrel was meaning :crying:


I too trusted bioware without question and then Anders happened Image IPB now - once bitten twice shy!

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Victia wrote...

RhiPanda wrote...

Eliantariel wrote...

RhiPanda wrote...

Unless he said that EDI/Joker was gonna be a thing in ME3 that would be bad bad news :(


True - but it would not make sense. They may be friends but lovers? How should this work? I mean, surely Joker "loves" the Normandy, because the ship and flying in general is everything for him, but that would even be the case without EDI.

No - I can't see this happening. I don't want it. I just pretend that this is not going to happen because I trust Bioware to make the right decision.


I really really hope you're right but I gotta know what Sorrel was meaning :crying:


I too trusted bioware without question and then Anders happened Image IPB now - once bitten twice shy!


Well, at least Anders is a LI now and you can stay with him at the end of DA2. It is not that bad. But he has changed from Awakening to DA2, but really, I wasn't too fond of him in Awakening and liked him better in DA2.

I think I will return to my motto: hope the best and expect the worst.

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Well i cant see why there would be alll those positive hinting tweets and then no jokermance but i guess we will have to see Image IPB

Think i may have to keep this thread open until Sorrel comes back, just for peace of mind Image IPB

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This is the best we can do. I am still optimistic for a Joker romance because there are so many hints towards that and we have reasons to hope for a Jokermance more than ever. Let's hope Sorrel comes back soon and can explain what happened.

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Eliantariel wrote...

Victia wrote...

RhiPanda wrote...

Eliantariel wrote...

RhiPanda wrote...

Unless he said that EDI/Joker was gonna be a thing in ME3 that would be bad bad news :(


True - but it would not make sense. They may be friends but lovers? How should this work? I mean, surely Joker "loves" the Normandy, because the ship and flying in general is everything for him, but that would even be the case without EDI.

No - I can't see this happening. I don't want it. I just pretend that this is not going to happen because I trust Bioware to make the right decision.


I really really hope you're right but I gotta know what Sorrel was meaning :crying:


I too trusted bioware without question and then Anders happened Image IPB now - once bitten twice shy!


Well, at least Anders is a LI now and you can stay with him at the end of DA2. It is not that bad. But he has changed from Awakening to DA2, but really, I wasn't too fond of him in Awakening and liked him better in DA2.

I think I will return to my motto: hope the best and expect the worst.


Hope: Joker romance for Shepard
Expectation: Joker to be another Anders

<_<

And Sorrel is saying to wear our banners proud and to be louder than we have ever been. (And...let's face it...we're pretty damn loud.)

Yep, he's going to be another Anders. Anders Fans have to defend their like for him constantly.

I just wonder what it could be. It seems like Sorrel can't say anything, or doesn't want to, which I totally understand. She'd either be kicked off the forums (unlikely), or she wants to save us heartbreak until she's ready.

Besides, if other followers were saved on that guy's twitter, we'd have trolls pouring in saying: HA HA!

Damnit. It feels like the 7th Harry Potter book all over again!

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Gahh I am getting so worried about it now =[ They gave the Garrus and Tali fans what they wanted why not uuus TT_TT

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phantomdragoness wrote...

Eliantariel wrote...

Victia wrote...

RhiPanda wrote...

Eliantariel wrote...

RhiPanda wrote...

Unless he said that EDI/Joker was gonna be a thing in ME3 that would be bad bad news :(


True - but it would not make sense. They may be friends but lovers? How should this work? I mean, surely Joker "loves" the Normandy, because the ship and flying in general is everything for him, but that would even be the case without EDI.

No - I can't see this happening. I don't want it. I just pretend that this is not going to happen because I trust Bioware to make the right decision.


I really really hope you're right but I gotta know what Sorrel was meaning :crying:


I too trusted bioware without question and then Anders happened Image IPB now - once bitten twice shy!


Well, at least Anders is a LI now and you can stay with him at the end of DA2. It is not that bad. But he has changed from Awakening to DA2, but really, I wasn't too fond of him in Awakening and liked him better in DA2.

I think I will return to my motto: hope the best and expect the worst.


Hope: Joker romance for Shepard
Expectation: Joker to be another Anders

<_<

And Sorrel is saying to wear our banners proud and to be louder than we have ever been. (And...let's face it...we're pretty damn loud.)

Yep, he's going to be another Anders. Anders Fans have to defend their like for him constantly.

I just wonder what it could be. It seems like Sorrel can't say anything, or doesn't want to, which I totally understand. She'd either be kicked off the forums (unlikely), or she wants to save us heartbreak until she's ready.

Besides, if other followers were saved on that guy's twitter, we'd have trolls pouring in saying: HA HA!

Damnit. It feels like the 7th Harry Potter book all over again!





To be fair most of the DA2 LI fan have to defend them people seem to think its ok to constantly point out Anders - Terrorist etc, Fenris - emo etc, Merril - child etc, Isabela - diseases, and Seb - religious nut job etc. None of which I think is fair or correct. My only issue with Anders was the complete change in character and even though there was a reason, I just missed the Anders who wanted a pretty girl and a kitty to snuggle Image IPB. Just hoping Joker doesnt receive this treatment - I dont think he will as he is loved but then again DAA Anders was loved too - but thinking back (cant remember if it was Seth or Thrisha - but think it was one) on twitter said we would love what happens to Joker and it has had me worried for a bit!

Anyways - Hurry back sorrel Image IPBImage IPB