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"I didn't mutiny once!" Joker Support Thread.


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OSUP wrote...

In the absence of evidence against I will believe...that the heart does....go ooooooooooooooonnnnn. :?


Oh God...don't...don't get that song stuck in my head...

....

****.

JOKER I LUV YOU NOMATTER WHAT. :crying:<3

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*switches on serious mode*

Not giving up hope based on a vague assumption. Bioware has yet to outright confirm or deny a Jokermance. And, based on what we have so far, it actually sounds like we have a fighting chance.

Also, I'm not going to "be louder" if it's futile. As Phantom already stated, the game's story is finished. They are past the point of no return; what's done is done. We'll either get a Jokermance or we won't. I'm not reserving my feelings on any side until we get a confirmation. I'm just going to hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

If we are denied a Jokermance, at least I'll still have Shepley for my male Infiltrator :wub:... that's where my mind is, right now. I'll just feel insanely sorry for my Adept because I am unable to see her with anyone other than Joker. Unable.

*switches off serious mode*

Okay, sorry for the seriousness, but I just wanted to throw my 2 cents into the mix.


Anyway, I have a Shepard to add to the "Shepards we plan to romance Joker with" topic, but her PC counterpart has yet to go through ME1. Will post pics when I start her up in ME2! Stay tuned! ;)

...

Frak, I hate dead seriousness... I need something to off-awkward this post with.

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Sorry, I forgot that it is really difficult to get pictures for the console players. @leggywillow and @ser bard: great looking Sheps - they look unique and beautiful.

@leggywillow: wow, your Shepard really had a hard life with all the lost of her loved ones. Hopefully she can get freedom in the arms of Joker :)

@Namira: you know nearly all of my Sheps look quite similar because I use the same face shape (7) and most of the time the same nose, mouth and eyes ever and ever again because they are my favourites. I often try to change the look and to select other shapes as well but normally end again with the "default" ones. I think the problem is that some shapes like mouth and nose and eyes only work for some face shapes very good and you have to find the best combination. And I really have the impression that the face in the character creator looks different compared to later in the game - so what seems to look a little strange first can be really goodlooking later in the game. And everytime with each new attempt we have to go through the prologue again... *argh* ... I really don't know how much time I already spent just to get a look right and later skip it again because it does not "feel" right for this Shepard

A reveal of the romances on Valentine would be nice but Casey said several times that they really want us to find out while playing the game. Garrus in ME2 was a big surprise too. All the time we only get vague comments like "everyone of ME2 squad will be in ME3 if still alive" and so on.. but no real details besides that Jack gets a new look or Garrus a new armor...

And because of this I really can't imagine that someone from Bioware would dare to give away much more information like Joker X crew/squad/EDI romance or something like this. It would be too much information compared to what was given away on information before and because Bioware knows that Joker is loved by many and a kind of main character and that there is hope for him being a LI. Bioware not even confirmed or mentioned that there will be NPC-NPC romances (and I still think this would be too much for this game as they already try to implement as much as possible and already have so many decisions and possible combinations of LIs/squadmates to implement).

Being louder as we already have is difficult - maybe if we all get a twitter account and spam Bioware/Casey Hudson but this can't be the way. We have two great and big threads and we had twitter messages send to Bioware concerning Joker as LI. And Casey said they are in final production, so it seems we cannot do something more at this time.

As long as it is nothing confirmed it is really hard to tell and only speculation, but if you get back in mind what we already heared about Joker and ME3 I think we have good reasons to be optimistic:

1. With all the comments and hints (see OP) that we got we know that Jokers part in ME3 will be focussed on being the funny part due to conversation with EDI (as in ME2) and according to Seth we will be really happy.

So I expect no real drama here - maybe at the end of the game if based on bad decisions everyone is dying.

2. Bioware does know that Joker has a big fan base - there was a comment from someone from Bioware to Seth that many people have asked them for Joker getting laid by someone or getting together with someone and with on of Caseys tweet (see OP: the "I think we've got you covered on all counts except maybe kromance" this shows to me that there will be a kind of romance between Joker and Shepard or someone else.

3. So the only bad thing happening can be a NPC-NPC romance with Joker and someone else instead of Shepard. This would fullfill some of the fan requests but still affront people who like to have a Joker/Shepard romance.

Well of course it is possible for Bioware to do this but there are some things why I would not expect this:

NPC-NPC interactions need ressources. Mass Effect is Shepards story, so why focus on NPC-NPC romances that are taking time and ressources, because there are several combinations of NPC that are alive or not alive depending on the players choice. There are already so many combinations and decisions that they have to implement, adding NPC-NPC romances would really blast the available ressources.

If you add a new character it would be easier in ME3, but to develop a spontanous relationship with a new NPC and e.g. Joker would be forced and would affront gamers who would like to romance this new character or Joker themselves.

Or they don't really focus on the development of a NPC-NPC romance (because of the ressource problem) and only let the characters mention theire relationship. This may be possible but still the problem that both Jokerfans who would like to romance Joker or the other NPC themselves. And if it would be EDIxJoker than I still fail to see why Bioware or Seth Green thinks that we as fans would be happy about it - so the only possibility for a handicapped person is to romance a computer? 

I don't know what Sorrel received for information, but really, I doubt that Patrick 'Weekes would tell his followers, that are not only Bioware employees much more information than we already received. Even his private account is still some kind of public because of the none Bioware members. And if this is something that the public is allowed to know, there is no problem posting it so that everyone knows. And if you check the tweets of other followers of Patsquinade/Patrick Weekes you won't find a comparable tweet like this from Sorrel - I would expect that such an information would provoke some reaction from others. But still: the information if someone is or is not a romance option is a spoiler and we know that Bioware wants us to find out while playing the game. And I suppose it is normal for a company to tell their employees what they are allowed to give away on information and what not. And if Sorrel would have received some special information I trust her to tell us at least more clearly that we should not expect to much - the information would help to get over it until march, but so we are left behind.

Sorry for the long post and wall of text. It is quite easy to get drown by emotions and this was a try for me and for you too to get things and thoughts sorted and to show that we still have reason to hope. Of course we don't know what is going to happen, but for me Bioware is the best game developer ever and I always loved their games.

I have trust in the team and the decisions because they love the game as much as we do and they want to make it great.

And now I am going to play my Joker/Femshep playthrough further... Image IPB

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I agree Omega, although never been able to ashley her as anything but a friend for my Sheps :-), Kaiden ususally ends up dead (if only because he tries to ninjamance me quite alot), and I have one Shep that I am now starting who is Liara loyal (didnt really like her is 1 but ignoring the creepyness of her appartment I thought she was great in 2)! I guess if there is no Jokermance then I will have to hope that Garrus' romance is twice as awesome and rely unpon my creative thinking for what happens between missions - either way River will get her flyboy if only in my fangirl head!

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I think what Sorrel meant by "be louder" is to just be proud we're Joker lovers. :) I'm proud as an Anders lover despite what happened. At least you had control over if he lives or dies; and if what happens to Joker comes to that, hell, he's livin'. And we're going to have lots and lots of creaky-legged babies.:o

Oh, have you guys seen this video? It's quite awesome. It sums up everything we know so far about Mass Effect 3.

Link!

I personally can't wait for the trial. And I'll punch the reporter this time...I prefer to bullrush her really, but if she's coming back with more of her disingenuous assertions, she'll see my Shepard's right hook. :devil:

And I love everyone's Shepards! I unfortunately have yet to take a picture of my Shep, but I'll do my best to describe her.

My Joker Shepard's name is Annabel - Bel for short. I came on here once asking advice on her. She has brown hair always kept in a pony tail (might change in ME3), and bright blue eyes; she has the classic nose, lips, and jawline, but her cheekbones aren't that wide - I wanted to give her a few "flaws" so she has a too stubborn of a chin, and her nose is a bit more prominent. She's a Spacer with a Ruthless reputation. She's normally very controlled, but that time on Torfan was her first taste of real battle, and she kinda lost it when Major Kyle wanted to hold back; she took control and charged in, losing men left and right, and finally rounding up the final batarians and killing them herself. After it all ended she realized her...error...and never fully trusted herself again, afraid that she was a horrible person underneath all her training and kindness. She is very strict with regulations (so she's single), and believes in focusing on more than just the mission itself. Her strict mindset and guarded aura can make her come across as a you-know-what, but she is very kind and tries her best not to judge someone until she gets their story. Bel is very close with her crew, and greatly respects those she doesn't necessarily agree with (like Zaeed, but she still visits him for his war stories). She is down to earth, kind, and understanding, but she can be a bit of a stick in the mud. In response to their commander's lack of good times, many of Bel's crew have forced her into "fun" situations. Garrus persuaded her to drink at a bar (which she ended using her sniper rifle as a pole for *ahem* pole dancing), Zaeed made her bet on a varren fight (she lost), Kasumi dared her to flirt with Hock, and Joker sends her porn; mostly as a joke, and just to see her storm down to the cockpit at 3 AM with a red face - but he insists "it is for a good cause". To her surprise, Bel would always end up having a good time one way or another whether by sicking Urz on Zaeed, or laughing with Joker. She still doesn't understand why people at that bar call her "Dances With Sniper Rifles", but Bel has a feeling she doesn't want to know. After every mission, the first person she visits is Joker. He gives her a different perspective on matters, helps her understand the crew (since he's introverted, he watches people a lot), and makes her laugh. Bel can't imagine a better friend than him. (And Garrus because, come on, Garrus is totally every Shep's adopted sibling).


So, that's my well thought out Shepard for Joker. She is the total opposite of him, but opposites attract, and Joker would complete her other half.

I like making background stories for my Shepards...XD

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definitely, I think Joker should have a romance with SIDI! The Joker´s health would not be a problem for them anymore!

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TERCAGA wrote...

definitely, I think Joker should have a romance with SIDI! The Joker´s health would not be a problem for them anymore!


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SIDI?

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TERCAGA wrote...

definitely, I think Joker should have a romance with SIDI! The Joker´s health would not be a problem for them anymore!


I'm going to rely on a classic Omega response, which is now my favorite:

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RhiPanda wrote...

SIDI?


Yeah this.

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Omega Torsk

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TERCAGA wrote...

definitely, I think Joker should have a romance with SIDI! The Joker´s health would not be a problem for them anymore!

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Who is SIDI, exactly?

Also, happy to see my troll-battling techniques have rubbed off on you, Phantom! *hug* :lol:

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I dont get it, at first i thought "Sudden Infant Death.. what?"

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I considered sexy EDI but then realised that's an E not an I...

I need caffeine.

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I googled it, and it appeared to be a brand of footwear

Dont you see whats happened? This troll has insulted us, and left us too confused to retaliate! Well played sir.

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NamiraWilhelm wrote...

I googled it, and it appeared to be a brand of footwear

Dont you see whats happened? This troll has insulted us, and left us too confused to retaliate! Well played sir.


So in TERCAGA opinion Joker's ideal mate is a shoe? :o

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Possibly lol, better that than EDI!

Priestly has confirmed ME3 will be at PAX, i can has Joker tidbits please?

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Ser Bard wrote...

NamiraWilhelm wrote...

I googled it, and it appeared to be a brand of footwear

Dont you see whats happened? This troll has insulted us, and left us too confused to retaliate! Well played sir.


So in TERCAGA opinion Joker's ideal mate is a shoe? :o


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@  Tooneyman   Nice to see you here   =)     *wave*

@ Eliantariel  yes... the dreaded intro before you get to the character creator  *brrr*     My current FemShep in ME took 7 turns! I had a routine down where I made tea while the intro was going. Then when I got to CC I took screenshots of all the settings, fool around with her a bit on Eden Prime so you can get a look at her from different angles in sunlight. Decide what to fix next evening and then call it a night. Between all my FemSheps I don't even want to think about how many times I've seen them die in ME2. It sort of loses it's punch sometime after 30 times I think. Have I mentioned how much I <3 the black emporium in DA2. It's the best thing since sliced bread really.


@ phantomdragoness   I have never done a FemShep who is a ruthless background before. I really liked how you described your so I might have to do that sometime   =)    lol for "Dances With Sniper Rifles", sounds like a nice action B-movie    :lol:

Which made me think, my FemShep and Joker will go for a movie for first date. Something with action in it. But considering how Shepard and Jokers day to day life look like I really don't know what would qualify for a action movie. I can see my FemShep grumbling about how slow they are to get into action. When they use bad tactics or just plain do it wrong. Hmmm.... perhaps they better stick to elcor Hamlet anyways. Or rent a video and watch it at home, then you can always find other things to do if the movie is bad   :whistle:

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SIDI hmmm what could it be? a typo perhaps? or maybe its shepard and edi together or maybe its a three sum? i am so confused and now my mind hurts.... Squad infinite dating inquirer? MY BRAIN MY BRAIN!!!
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still hope for a shepard joker thing and not before he dies or something cause that is so not cool

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[quote]NamiraWilhelm wrote...

Possibly lol, better that than EDI!

Priestly has confirmed ME3 will be at PAX, i can has Joker tidbits please?[/quote]

That would be awsome femshep trailer where she kisses Joker Image IPB

I hate the fact that there are no big gaming events in England - I could actually get to those without a second mortgage Image IPB. Still hopefully we may get a new trailer  or demo, maybe even some new info - should be good Image IPB

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For some reason, I'm imagining Joker dragging my Femshep to see "Blasto!" XD

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 I haven't started my Joker playthough yet. I wanted it to be my insanity playthrough and I'm still working on getting there. But I have it mostly planned out. Alex ShepardInfiltrator-Spacer or Earthborn-Sole Survivor I might have pictures later, but I'm on Xbox so it could be hard. 
All of your Shepards are gorgeous though. I've never see such pretty Sheps. Which makes sense because Joker deserves the best ;)

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My prettiest Shep has def been saved for Joker, I want to give her new hair in ME3 though :-D

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I love all your Shepards, shame I can't get a picture of mine (I play on the XBox). Mine looks a lot like leggywillow's first one, but with brown eyes and very dark brown skin. He name is Claire, she's a Vangard, Colonist, Sole survivor. She tried to cope with her losses by trying to remain as neutral as possible and didn't let herself get close to her teammates, but after she died and was ressucitated, she has been having... anger issues. She still treats her friends and allies with respect, but as Aria would say, don't f*ck with her. She's definitely more of a Renegon now. Although she's not ready to admit it, she's had a thing for Joker since he rescued her and her team from Therum...

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Okay, so, I did something... sort of embarrassing. Namely, I had an enormously geeky idea, I couldn't get it out of my head, and in the end I surrendered to it completely. It took me a while to realize it, but Mass Effect is probably my favorite video game series ever ever ever, and that nerdlove just spilled over and...

This was the result. It's a little Joker/Shepard shippery towards the end, but lightly so. In some ways it's a FemShep tribute, but really, it's just a Mass Effect tribute in general. The song was too perfect not to use. I kept thinking, "someone should make an ME video using that..." and eventually I ran out of excuses not to do it myself.

So, hrm, *Mordin-esque cough* if anyone wants to take a look at that, that'd be cool. *awkwardly trying to be casual*

Eliantariel wrote...

@Namira: you know nearly all of my Sheps look quite similar because I use the same face shape (7) and most of the time the same nose, mouth and eyes ever and ever again because they are my favourites. I often try to change the look and to select other shapes as well but normally end again with the "default" ones. I think the problem is that some shapes like mouth and nose and eyes only work for some face shapes very good and you have to find the best combination. And I really have the impression that the face in the character creator looks different compared to later in the game - so what seems to look a little strange first can be really goodlooking later in the game. And everytime with each new attempt we have to go through the prologue again... *argh* ... I really don't know how much time I already spent just to get a look right and later skip it again because it does not "feel" right for this Shepard

I have the exact same problem in Mass Effect! I had to really force myself to change things up a little; once I finally got my Main Shep's face like I wanted it, that became the only combination of features that looked right to me (even though I still see angles that make me go, "hmm, I probably could've made the chin length a little shorter... but then again that would make her neck look longer..."). It took a very firm bit of self-discipline to make a new Shepard with shorter straight hair, the darkest skin tone, blue eyes, a hawkish nose that files to a point and thinner lips with a pointy chin. I ended up absolutely loving her, though. Same with the one after that, using short curly red hair and other features.

I think this is a common syndrome. ;)

SpaceinMind wrote...

 I haven't started my Joker
playthough yet. I wanted it to be my insanity playthrough and I'm still
working on getting there. But I have it mostly planned out. Alex
ShepardInfiltrator-Spacer or Earthborn-Sole Survivor I might have
pictures later, but I'm on Xbox so it could be hard.

Mm, good choice. Infiltrator and Sentinel with Assault Armor are the best for Insanity, I think. I had two runs on Insanity, but I mostly play on Hardcore now; it's challenging without being frustrating. I hope you enjoy your Insanity run!