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[CrutchCricket]

What you need, is some Richard Cheese

Initial reaction might be WTF but trust me it grows on you.

[Skullheart]

I believe that the only visible flags regarding that in the leak are Romanced, Slept, Break. And for jack there's the Fling.

So I believe that the kiss or admiring her body options doesn't really care.

[The Elder King]

jtav wrote...

Apparently the GI article is just a rehash of what we've already seen plus Mars.

And the quest after Sur'kesh, about the genophage. We only saw a little about it.

[Td1984]

naledgeborn wrote...

android654 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

*I hate going back to topics we talked about 10 or so pages ago, but I felt this to be somewhat amusing and entertaining to envision, and I hope I'm not the only one*

Going back to Miranda and hip hop...

Just keep her away from this guy, or her head may explode-



NSFW, bad language. Also, notice how he goes through an entire 4 minute song's worth of lyrics in 1 minute. Actually, no. There's 8 seconds of filler in the beginning. 52 seconds of actual wordplay.

I've found when introducing people to genre's of music you think the wont like, its easier to introduce them to a sub-genre first and they'll eventually travel on their own and find more music like it.

I think Miranda would gravitate more towards trip-hop and blues, then could find her way over to hip-hop.

Introduce her to this stuff first



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbe3CQamF8k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEgX64n3T7g

then she'll be listening to old Nas and Lupe Fiasco in no time!

Blu & Exile. And Random Axe. And eLZhi. That is all. 

Cobra Starship is what I'd probably start her off with. "The World Has Its Shine (But I Would Drop It On A Dime)" is kind of my unofficial song for our romance. It fits with my Shep's backstory, which I just typed up so I wouldn't forget it. I may post it later.

Modifié par Td1984, 09 janvier 2012 - 04:33 .

[Ieldra]

Mr Massakka wrote...
I have been wondering... Will it make a difference on how you got into the romance? How the conversations were going? (Renegade/Paragon) Not only for Miranda, for everyone on the Normandy...

I read somewhere that your art of interaction will somehow transfer to ME3. Don't have a source, though.

I don't think there'll be any difference, apart from the obvious - romanced, not romanced, had sex or not, broke off the romance.

It would be cool if certain key reactions would transfer into ME3, like, the kiss vs. the other romance variant, but I can see no indication that it will. 

[Ieldra]

As for music, I'm sure Miranda would appreciate this. Bach is such a perfect combination of the orderly and the beautiful.

[ViSeiRa]

De-lurk

Seems there's little new info the new issue of GamesMaster UK as well, only a little part of the interview with Casey where he mentioned that some people say "You better bring back Miranda because if she's not back in ME3 I won't play the game" and how people used to think of her as a two-dimensional character when they revealed her before ME2 came out... huh.

One other thing, they say there's a new morality system that ALSO rewards players who'd rather not conform solely to Paragon or Renegade, they said and I quote: "Now playing it straight, sympathizing with some people and snapping at others will also grant some unique dialogue options." << finally some good news.

That's about it, I didn't read the entire feature though, just skimmed through it quickly.

[Vertigo_1]

jtav wrote...

Apparently the GI article is just a rehash of what we've already seen plus Mars.

No surprise there (at least to me), they've been very quiet on ME2 exclusive characters (Mordin> Legion> Jack in terms of how much we've seen) since they are integrated into the main story.

[jtav]

I wonder what I'd have thought of Miranda if I'd followed the pre-release hype? Probably would have hated her. But I wonder if quotes like that are the reason for the tonal difference in the romance.

[Stalker]

ViSeirA wrote...

De-lurk

Seems there's little new info the new issue of GamesMaster UK as well, only a little part of the interview with Casey where he mentioned that some people say "You better bring back Miranda because if she's not back in ME3 I won't play the game" and how people used to think of her as a two-dimensional character when they revealed her before ME2 came out... huh.

One other thing, they say there's a new morality system that ALSO rewards players who'd rather not conform solely to Paragon or Renegade, they said and I quote: "Now playing it straight, sympathizing with some people and snapping at others will also grant some unique dialogue options." << finally some good news.

That's about it, I didn't read the entire feature though, just skimmed through it quickly.

Sounds great!
Could you, or someone please link the article/interview?

[CroGamer002]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

jtav wrote...

Apparently the GI article is just a rehash of what we've already seen plus Mars.

No surprise there (at least to me), they've been very quiet on ME2 exclusive characters (Mordin> Legion> Jack in terms of how much we've seen) since they are integrated into the main story.

Jack is internal to ME3 main plot around same level as Legion and Mordin?


DUDE!
Post me some stuff about Jack from leaked script!
Long enough there are no major spoilers.
If you can without major spoilers.

[ViSeiRa]

jtav wrote...

I wonder what I'd have thought of Miranda if I'd followed the pre-release hype? Probably would have hated her. But I wonder if quotes like that are the reason for the tonal difference in the romance.

I wouldn't restrict the quote to Miranda, he was answering a question about fan expectations in ME3 in general and he used Miranda as an example.

Mr Massakka wrote...

Sounds great!
Could you, or someone please link the article/interview?

You won't find those online, they're only in the magazine.

[CrutchCricket]

Hmm. Having to wait for ME2 the way I am for ME3... that's a scary thought. I was lucky to only get in on this a few months ago. Otherwise I might've resented Miranda especially once I found out Ashley/Liara were so scarce. I have to be honest though, her attractiveness would've gone a long way to mitigate that...

[Vertigo_1]

ViSeirA wrote...

jtav wrote...

I wonder what
I'd have thought of Miranda if I'd followed the pre-release hype?
Probably would have hated her. But I wonder if quotes like that are the
reason for the tonal difference in the romance.

I wouldn't restrict the quote to Miranda, he was answering a question about fan expectations in ME3 in general and he used Miranda as an example.

Here's what a friend sent me via Skype when I asked about it (he has the magazine so this is taken straight from it):

Q: How do you manage all the fan expectation for ME3?

A: Sometimes when people are a little concerned or uncomfortable with what you're doing...that is where you need to be. Otherwise you're not innovation. Here's an example: when we announced Mass Effect 2 and we started revealing the characters, people hated almost every character we showed. So we showed Miranda and people would say. "Oh she's just a two dimensional cheerleader. She's nothing like Ashley who is a fully developed character". Now people are saying: "You better bring back Miranda, because if I find out Miranda's not in ME3 then I'm not playing it"

So when we announce a character or show something new, we expect that there's going to be a little bit of backlash. And that's maybe a good thing, because we had to have a lot of confidence in ME2 when people hated characters.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 09 janvier 2012 - 05:59 .

[flemm]

Mesina2 wrote...
Jack is internal to ME3 main plot around same level as Legion and Mordin?


DUDE!
Post me some stuff about Jack from leaked script!
Long enough there are no major spoilers.
If you can without major spoilers.

Probably not to the same extent, in the sense that Mordin and Legion are wrapped up in complicated situations involving more than one alien race/returning squad member, while Jack's role is separate.

But, there are story spoilers there anyway, yeah.

Modifié par flemm, 09 janvier 2012 - 06:01 .

[jtav]

Well, there's a character I'm going to absolutely despise unless they've been completely rewritten.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

^ Who?

[Vertigo_1]

Mesina2 wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

jtav wrote...

Apparently the GI article is just a rehash of what we've already seen plus Mars.

No surprise there (at least to me), they've been very quiet on ME2 exclusive characters (Mordin> Legion> Jack in terms of how much we've seen) since they are integrated into the main story.

Jack is internal to ME3 main plot around same level as Legion and Mordin?


DUDE!
Post me some stuff about Jack from leaked script!
Long enough there are no major spoilers.
If you can without major spoilers.

Err this is based on what we've seen in trailers, announcements etc... NOT the .tlk file/story leak.

Mordin: Sur'kesh demo shown at E3 and playable @ Comic Cons, etc
Legion: E3 presentation
Jack: Concept in art book shown

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 09 janvier 2012 - 06:03 .

[flemm]

Basically, what Casey Hudson is saying is that they need to play with people's expectations a bit and change up the formula each time, to avoid stagnation.

Which is true, and something we've discussed here on various occasions, with varying degrees of angst and understanding, depending on our mood.

This is why Miranda cannot be around a lot early in the game, or TIM, because they set the tone for ME2.

Same reason the VS, Liara and Anderson faded into the background in ME2.

Obvious difference: there is no ME4. So... Miranda's "return," so to speak, needs to be in the 2nd half of ME3. Which it will be. How much and how good? will be the defining factors.

Modifié par flemm, 09 janvier 2012 - 06:08 .

[CroGamer002]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Err this is based on what we've seen in trailers, announcements etc... NOT the .tlk file/story leak.

Mordin: Sur'kesh demo shown at E3 and playable @ Comic Cons, etc
Legion: E3 presentation
Jack: Concept in art book shown

Sorry then, misunderstood you there.

[CrutchCricket]

There is a difference between:
"New character? Boo!"
and
"Get me my favorite or I'll flame your message board!"

You can pretty much ignore the first but the second is slightly more important. On the other hand these are fans we're talking about...

Ultimately as I consider Bioware a benchmark of immersive gaming I can trust them enough to give me a game I like, despite the nitpicking complaints I keep posting on here.

[jtav]

Well, my issue isn't that Miranda's replaced. My first post here was essentially "I love her, but I don't expect her to be back." So, color me unsurprised.

[wright1978]

Disagree with Casey. The final part of a trilogy should be about bringing together the strands of the previous 2 games into an epic conclusion. Shouldn't be introducing loads of new characters and utterly sidelining existing characters in order to do so.

[ViSeiRa]

wright1978 wrote...

Disagree with Casey. The final part of a trilogy should be about bringing together the strands of the previous 2 games into an epic conclusion. Shouldn't be introducing loads of new characters and utterly sidelining existing characters in order to do so.

But don't you know? ME3 is the prefect entry point to the series, coming from the creator of the "button, awesome" marketing campaign himself.

Anyway, sarcasm aside... I expect very few expectations will be met when it comes down to characters in general in ME3, simply Bioware's faulty design of the suicide mission is to blame.

[jtav]

Well, what Miranda has in the script is of high quality. Her role is also unfinished in a very obvious way. This could potentially be so much better than ME2. And, truthfully, I'd rather be a Miranda fan than a Tali fan just now.