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[Berg]

OK. I was just pointing out why people would tend to get more exercised about details concerning Miranda rather than details concerning Shepard.

[wright1978]

The idea of Shepherd retiring is imcomprehesible to me as are fics i've seen where he goes off to some remote colony to chop wood. My Shep at least is extremely political and will be hoping to use his leverage after the war. I'd happily see him and Miranda as joint equal partners in a re-formed Cerberus type organisation.

[Berg]

Interesting, I have not really planned a future for my Shepard after defeating the reapers. I don't think he would be content being joint leader of Cerberus, partly because he feels that the brand is just too toxic, especially once the events of ME3 transpire. Miranda is her own woman of course and is free to do that if she wishes.

[jtav]

Very much comprehensible to me. It's extremely difficult to play a Shepard in the first two games, especially the second, who isn't a blunt instrument. He's very, very good at soldiering, but the galaxy will be rebuilt by scientists, administrators, and the like. There will be less need for his special skills. Thankfully, ME3 allows you to play a Shepard who is both smarter and more human. Which doesn't change Matt's ending because he never wanted that life.

[Berg]

jtav wrote...

He's very, very good at soldiering, but the galaxy will be rebuilt by scientists, administrators, and the like.

And politicians. After major wars (e.g. WWII, various civil wars/wars of indepence) governments tend to have a large number of military people. Shepard could fill such a role, especially if he is well respected in the galaxy as a whole. Either for humanity or the council.

Modifié par oh brother, 10 janvier 2012 - 04:03 .

[CrutchCricket]

jtav wrote...
 There will be less need for his special skills.

You don't think that after the near destruction of the galaxy and the possible collapse of most of the established order as a result, there will be plenty of chaos and lawlesness he could use those special skills to curb?

That aside, the man was the spearhead in defeating the Reapers and the symbol of the organics' fight against them. I find it hard to believe that after all that, he's just going to sit in a corner and paint (and even less that the galaxy will allow that).*

*Edit: He could concievably hide but even if Miranda's as elusive as TIM being with her while she's running Cerberus 2.0 is still too high profile for that kind of thing.

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 10 janvier 2012 - 04:23 .

[Ryzaki]

jtav wrote...

Very much comprehensible to me. It's extremely difficult to play a Shepard in the first two games, especially the second, who isn't a blunt instrument. He's very, very good at soldiering, but the galaxy will be rebuilt by scientists, administrators, and the like. There will be less need for his special skills. Thankfully, ME3 allows you to play a Shepard who is both smarter and more human. Which doesn't change Matt's ending because he never wanted that life.

Heh. I have a couple of Sheps that just want to be left alone in peace. It's not strange at all.

I have a few others though that are gonna go around in the Normandy kicking merc ass including my canon.

[Ieldra]

Regarding Shepard's role after the war, my mental picture of what Cyrus Shepard will do after the war is quite a bit hazier than my image of what Miranda will do. He shares a desire to advance humanity with Miranda, but he doesn't have much of a scientist's background, and while he is good with people and interested in politics, he is wary of political processes.

Hmm...now that I think of it more, he might become the leader of a new colony - a world founded on the principle of pushing the envelope in science and technology, especially in human enhancement technologies, which would become the new cultural center of humanity in time. But whatever he does, I can't imagine him mostly sitting in one place. Just as I can't envision that for Miranda.  

As for jtav's Matt, retirement is a completely valid ending for him. People may learn to leave him alone in time, and if things go right for him, he'll become as famous for his art as he ever was for his role in defeating the Reapers.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 10 janvier 2012 - 04:34 .

[Berg]

If "retirement" means devoting yourself to an art - in which you have a great talent - then that could be fine.

But otherwise I am not so sure. Would Miranda respect someone who was properly retired at the age of 30?

[jtav]

Entirely appropriate for Matt. He became a soldier because he was needed to combat an evil. Well, now there's peace, and he can devote himself to his actual calling.

[CrutchCricket]

Which evil? He was a career man before anyone even knew of the word "Reaper"

[nitefyre410]

Well in Head Canon I have my Shepard going back and training some of new Alliances Vanguards... because he is the best. Honestly I canon Shepard take some time and get work rebuilding the galaxy. Still going to have random pockets left of Reaper worshipers and TIM's old hold outs.

[wright1978]

jtav wrote...

Entirely appropriate for Matt. He became a soldier because he was needed to combat an evil. Well, now there's peace, and he can devote himself to his actual calling.

Can't see there being peace. Situation is likely to be alot more volatile at the end of the war than before.

[Skullheart]

Depends on my Shepard. Some of them will want to help humanity to advance even more. Others will want to seek redemption for the species that died in the war by his decisions.

[Ieldra]

wright1978 wrote...

jtav wrote...
Entirely appropriate for Matt. He became a soldier because he was needed to combat an evil. Well, now there's peace, and he can devote himself to his actual calling.

Can't see there being peace. Situation is likely to be alot more volatile at the end of the war than before.

That would depend on your decisions. There may be a set of decisions that makes for a more stable galaxy. Probably at the expense of exploration and advancement. Anyway, any threats would not be as bad as the Reapers and not require someone like Shepard. After all, there are a lot of good soldiers in the galaxy. I'm not saying everyone's Shepard should retire - Cyrus Shepard certainly won't - only that it's a completely valid ending for someone like jtav's Matt.

As for Miranda respecting him - well, that would depend on whatever he's doing. Retirement, after all, only means that you're not bound to a duty or a job, but can do pretty much as you want depending on your means. Miranda would certainly respect someone who follows a calling he has an exceptional talent for, as long as that means he doesn't run away from something he should rather be doing. And at the end of the Reaper War, there is nothing any more Shepard should rather be doing. He's done all any human could expect to do.
 

[AgitatedLemon]

Skullheart wrote...

Depends on my Shepard. Some of them will want to help humanity to advance even more. Others will want to seek redemption for the species that died in the war by his decisions.

Emphasis on the bold.

My canon Shepard will try to atone for any unnecessary lives he threw away in the war.

After that he'll probably go on to help Miranda and co-lead the new Cerberus.

When he becomes elderly, he'll retire and live on Earth or a garden world.

[Td1984]

 I'm not sure what my Shep will do after the war. Maybe become the head of the Alliance, but I'm not sure he'd want to be on the Council. He might just be content with running for President of the North American States since he's originally from Los Angeles. Plus, he needs somewhere to drive his Ferarri that he'll eventually buy 

[AgitatedLemon]

Td1984 wrote...

 I'm not sure what my Shep will do after the war. Maybe become the head of the Alliance, but I'm not sure he'd want to be on the Council. He might just be content with running for President of the North American States since he's originally from Los Angeles. Plus, he needs somewhere to drive his Ferarri that he'll eventually buy 

Really?

Is your Shepard a pimp too?

[CrutchCricket]

It wasn't the retirement thing I originally found questionable anyway. In fact one of my possible endings is comfortable retirement in anonymity for the both of them, partly because as Ieldra said they've done enough. What rubbed me the wrong way was the notion of Miranda prominent and influential while Shepard does nothing but "be supportive" (not that art is not a worthy pursuit but in a galaxy that just had a near extinction event, yeah it's rather far on the sidelines) and the double standard it evoked. Because I guarantee you cannot pull a reversal of that seriously and not immediately come under fire.

Again I recognize "to each his own" and all that, I just think this objection needed to be raised.

Any further inconsistencies or rough edges in discussed retirement plans can only be used to refine each of our stories, should we go that route.

Edit: Here's a side question: Anyone know why the "full reply form" always messes up your spacing if you copy/paste text? I've dealt with it when copying paragraphs from one reply to another but even with one line from the same reply? wtf?

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 10 janvier 2012 - 08:16 .

[naledgeborn]

I've joked around with it before, but retirement? No. Admiral Shepard sounds good. Or Director of Operations for Systems Alliance N7 Operations/Cerberus (if salvageable).

Modifié par naledgeborn, 10 janvier 2012 - 08:39 .

[desispark]

Found a new Miranda cosplay. What do y'all think?

[nitefyre410]

desispark wrote...

Found a new Miranda cosplay. What do y'all think?

*snip*

 


Thats good I found it earlier on Kotaku... I favoriated  the she belongs too Tumblr page.  Always good to find  nice cosplay 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 10 janvier 2012 - 08:43 .

[CrutchCricket]

Wish they'd do the loyalty outfit for once though. I love Miranda but the pattern on that outfit looks like the inside of a burger wrapper.

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 10 janvier 2012 - 08:45 .

[flemm]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Thats good I found it earlier on Kotaku... I favoriated  the she belongs too Tumblr page.  Always good to find  nice cosplay 

Agreed. Good stuff

[Skullheart]

I've been thinkins in some roles for Shepard after the war:
- Admiral.
- Human Councilor?
- N7 Academy director.
- Retired.
- Exploring new frontiers.
- Philanthropy organization.