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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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#25876
nitefyre410

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ThomGau wrote...

I'm too focused on ME3 itself to get infos on the ME movie . Is it currently being made now ? Have we got a release date ?
I'm quite sceptical about it, the past showed me that video-games and movies don't fit very well . Moreover, how could they transbribe one of the key aspect of ME as a video-game, the interactive choice, through a movie ?
Although Hudson's contribution may be a good sign regarding the quality of the product .
Seeing Miranda on the big screen could be a good thing but I'm very cynical about this . It could be very very disapointing in my opinion .

 


Still in  pre- production... I would not expect any solid news for at least another year or so.    

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This may have been brought up before, but do any of you have "jump ship" conditions? Like if x happens, you're done with the character? I don't personally but I suspect some of you do.


Well, I don't really think of it in those terms. I could imagine the writing being unacceptably bad. Which is, I guess, similar.

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nitefyre410 wrote...

Still in  pre- production... I would not expect any solid news for at least another year or so.    


Thank you mate .
They need to get ME3 hyped up way more than the movie at the moment .

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"Miranda in a movie" was just a speculation topic I think, not really related to the movie project. From what I know of it the chances of Miranda being in it are slim anyway as it's either an adaptation of ME1 or a brand new story.

Regardless I would hope any movie project that actually includes a Shepard does not encourage people to gravitate towards a set "canon" (and even moreso I hope Bioware doesn't imply this).

#25880
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I hope to christ the movie never sees the light of day.

Why?

It focuses on Shepard.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

I hope to christ the movie never sees the light of day.

Why?

It focuses on Shepard.


Indeed that is a problem . They can't fully represent Shepard, he is not a " standard character " with precise personality and morals.
In a sense I understand why they want to make a movie about ME, it is a very rich and complex universe . Though I don't know how they could manage to show the most important aspects of the game . Adapting a role-playing game is very difficult because there are no canon choices regarding the main character himself and the plot as opposed to a movie .

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#25882
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The most obvious non-Shepard route would be a spin off featuring a select squadmate, or FCW.

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ThomGau wrote...
Seeing Miranda on the big screen could be a good thing but I'm very cynical about this . It could be very very disapointing in my opinion .

I'll go further and say it is bound to be disappointing. They'd derail her character beyond recognition to give her more mainstream appeal. That, or she'll be a villain and dies in the end.

Better that it doesn't happen.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

This may have been brought up before, but do any of you have "jump ship" conditions? Like if x happens, you're done with the character? I don't personally but I suspect some of you do.


If Yvonne's face and voice were both replaced i'd be very close as I would really struggle for immersion in roleplaying being faced by a character that didn't sound or look like the character i cared about.

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wright1978 wrote...
If Yvonne's face and voice were both replaced i'd be very close as I would really struggle for immersion in roleplaying being faced by a character that didn't sound or look like the character i cared about.

Agreed. I hate recasting in any form.

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flemm wrote...

What's in the leak is definitely not going to cut it. However, there are some solid reasons to believe there will be more (degree of incompleteness, story logic, some meta-game requirements).

That's enough to put me in "neutral" mode for the moment, but they had some serious work to do on this to put it in the "acceptable" range.

I can live without Miranda being on the squad as long as meaningful screentime is not limited and the story is awesome. In truth, she should probably join up for part of the game, so that is already somewhat of a fail. Still, it is one I can accept, especially since it could be more or less in line with some of the scenarios we've suggested here.

Doesn't mean some half-*ss appearance is going to be ok, though. It has to be great.


Well for me her main mission better have been missing in the leak. If that's the case i'll give the lame re-use of the plot hook in the 1st mission a pass.

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Putting aside my attachment to the character, Miranda is the natural choice to be killed off in a filmed suicide mission for your average screenwriter. She has a large role, increasing audience attachment, but she's an obstacle to whatever romance is established in ME1. Her function would be as temptress figure to be redeemed by our hero. But redemption equals death. So, she'd resign and die immediately afterward, and we'd get an epilogue of Shepard telling Oriana how much Miranda loved her.

Do you really want to see that?

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jtav wrote...

Putting aside my attachment to the character, Miranda is the natural choice to be killed off in a filmed suicide mission for your average screenwriter. She has a large role, increasing audience attachment, but she's an obstacle to whatever romance is established in ME1. Her function would be as temptress figure to be redeemed by our hero. But redemption equals death. So, she'd resign and die immediately afterward, and we'd get an epilogue of Shepard telling Oriana how much Miranda loved her.

Do you really want to see that?


This. Dear god, this.

Don't make it happen.

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It doesn't necessarily have to be that one-sided.  It could very well end up being a Betty/Veronica situation. And while it says right there that the "Betty" has a higher chance of being favored, it's not completely cut and dried. Finally sometimes tropes are meant to be subverted.

Besides they may want to blow their "drama" load early and Virmire Ashley...

Edit: And I just realized you hadn't presupposed an Ashley romance. Bit tougher with Liara. But then it's not so easily defined with Liara. We as nerds fully embrace the possibility of making it with a hot alien babe (and all the personality virtues as well ;)). But to a mainstream movie audience? Miranda may seem the more conventional when compared to a blue girl with tentacles for hair.

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I'd really like it if they made the ME movie using CGI similar to the ME2 Blur trailer. The biggest worry I have is that there has never been a good video game movie.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

It doesn't necessarily have to be that one-sided.  It could very well end up being a Betty/Veronica situation. And while it says right there that the "Betty" has a higher chance of being favored, it's not completely cut and dried. Finally sometimes tropes are meant to be subverted.

Besides they may want to blow their "drama" load early and Virmire Ashley...

Edit: And I just realized you hadn't presupposed an Ashley romance. Bit tougher with Liara. But then it's not so easily defined with Liara. We as nerds fully embrace the possibility of making it with a hot alien babe (and all the personality virtues as well ;)). But to a mainstream movie audience? Miranda may seem the more conventional when compared to a blue girl with tentacles for hair.


You know this is hollywood we're talking, right?

The same hollywood that thought it was a good idea to make the lead character in Silent Hill a female (Not sexist, there are legititmate reasons), and to include Pyramid head in the movie (He was nothing but extreme fanservice), and to make one of the lead villains a sympathetic character (In game, she's just a crazy psychopath b*tch)

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AgitatedLemon wrote...
You know this is hollywood we're talking, right?

The same hollywood that thought it was a good idea to make the lead character in Silent Hill a female (Not sexist, there are legititmate reasons), and to include Pyramid head in the movie (He was nothing but extreme fanservice), and to make one of the lead villains a sympathetic character (In game, she's just a crazy psychopath b*tch)

Yeah I know it's not very likely to get good treatment. But it's not guaranteed to be shat on either.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...
You know this is hollywood we're talking, right?

The same hollywood that thought it was a good idea to make the lead character in Silent Hill a female (Not sexist, there are legititmate reasons), and to include Pyramid head in the movie (He was nothing but extreme fanservice), and to make one of the lead villains a sympathetic character (In game, she's just a crazy psychopath b*tch)

Yeah I know it's not very likely to get good treatment. But it's not guaranteed to be shat on either.


Not necessarily guaranteed, but a good 98% chance.

See: Transformers.

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Dr. Doctor wrote...

I'd really like it if they made the ME movie using CGI similar to the ME2 Blur trailer. The biggest worry I have is that there has never been a good video game movie.


I can't stand CGI trailers for games. The games never live up them. I'm looking at you Sacred Ashes Trailer...



I still want that version of Morrigan and Sten, and Leliana could've been more aggressive like in that trailer.

All the Blur trailer did was ****** me off that Thane didn't have SNTD (Super Ninja Take Downs).

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I can't stand CGI trailers for games. The games never live up them. I'm looking at you Sacred Ashes Trailer...


Anyone remember the PSX and PS2 Final Fantasy games?

Or any Square Enix game for that matter?

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CrutchCricket wrote...
Edit: And I just realized you hadn't presupposed an Ashley romance. Bit tougher with Liara. But then it's not so easily defined with Liara. We as nerds fully embrace the possibility of making it with a hot alien babe (and all the personality virtues as well ;)). But to a mainstream movie audience? Miranda may seem the more conventional when compared to a blue girl with tentacles for hair.

A blue alien with a conventional psychology tends to be more acceptable - to say nothing of more politically correct - than a morally questionable operative with no sign of changing her ways.

Miranda in a movie can only end badly for her. She'll end up derailed or dead.

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wright1978 wrote...
Well for me her main mission better have been missing in the leak. If that's the case i'll give the lame re-use of the plot hook in the 1st mission a pass.


Well, in fairness, the mission in the leak is not so much a repeat of the Loyalty Mission as it is the completion of it: it goes farther and seemingly has a finality to it, as far as Miranda's personal issues are concerned. For that very reason, though, it must be the stepping stone to other things.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

I can't stand CGI trailers for games. The games never live up them. I'm looking at you Sacred Ashes Trailer...


Anyone remember the PSX and PS2 Final Fantasy games?

Or any Square Enix game for that matter?


Deus Ex HR was the last one to get me. I loved the trailers for that. The game was ok, but I've yet to do a second play. All of the FF games look dazzling in their trailers, but aren't any fun to play or look at in my opinion. I will admit Jack and Thane's reveal trailers got me pumped to go out and order ME2, but I've learned my lesson with bioware. Awesome trailers, but they're only revealing the characters.

On the sacred Ashes trailer, that is one awesome looking Cousland, that trailer can't get enough credit from me.

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Heh. You want disproportionate trailer-game relations? Look no further than Bioware's own Old Republic. Looks amazing, tells you nothing about gameplay (and also gets recycled as opening cutscenes).
That being said those trailers do show one thing: what new Star Wars visual media should be. Not this cartoony Clone Wars kids show crap.
Anyway GCI ME movie would be good because that'd be a higher chance of the same writers, directors and actors returning and lower (somewhat) chance of Hollywood Executive Meddling.

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flemm wrote...

wright1978 wrote...
Well for me her main mission better have been missing in the leak. If that's the case i'll give the lame re-use of the plot hook in the 1st mission a pass.


Well, in fairness, the mission in the leak is not so much a repeat of the Loyalty Mission as it is the completion of it: it goes farther and seemingly has a finality to it, as far as Miranda's personal issues are concerned. For that very reason, though, it must be the stepping stone to other things.


And that's exactly why I'm of the mindset that it will conclude poorly.

Well, the actual conclusion to her set of missions may be awesome, I'm talking about her post-mission status.

If they do to her what they did to the prothean side missions in ME2 I'll be pissed. Or if it just turns out to be "I'm done now Shepard, I'll continue to stay off screen for the rest of the game with no communication".

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