Ieldra2 wrote...
As for names, in the "Foundation" ending, Miranda's organization for scientific advancement and human enhancement could be called the Prometheus Foundation, after the Titan who stole fire from Zeus and gave it to the mortals. He has since become a symbol of human craft going beyond the limits set by the gods, something Miranda also embodies within the ME universe.
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who would know wrote...
Why use Cerberus for the name, though? Why ATLAS? What symbolism is involved?
Btw: Alliance Tactical and Logistical ASsignments
Phoenix is a little too cheesy for me.
strive wrote...
Isn't there three "heads" to Cerberus as well, scientific, military and intelligence? That could be a tie in as well or I could be wrong like I usually am lol.
In which version of the myth does that happen? I only the know the version where he helped the Olympians against the Titans *before* helping the mortals by giving them fire.naledgeborn wrote...
I liked Prometheus until he became a traitor and re-sided with the Olympians.
Reckless, maybe. But I would think that's just a function of him starting out down this path. He doesn't strike me as an indiscriminate killer who will cut through anyone to get to his target. He was just rough around the edges in ME1. Besides he's a sniper. I'm going to rely on infallible TF2 logic and say that sniper =/= crazed gunman.android654 wrote...
MisterJB wrote...
Here's a difference. Garrus wanted to kill Sidonis out of anger, he wanted vengeance.
Miranda did not want t kill Niket because she was angry he had betrayed her. She wanted him dead because he was a loose end, he had information that could endanger Oriana. Regardless of who kills that rat, she feels sad afterwards.
We get a glimpse of his recklessness when he first tells us about the good dr "Heart." He was ready and willing to gun down his ship and kill the innocent passengers inside with no thought to their safety, but all of his focus centered around killing his enemy. He is very unfocused in what he does, and only has time to think of the fight and not the result of his actions. That's why he lost his whole team on Omega.
Normally yes she is (or can be) one of the coldest people just before a kill. But this isn't a normal situation, she's personally involved. About as personal as she gets. Recall her reaction if the merc kills Niket (I know you never see it but you know what I'm talking about). That kind of outburst is definitely NOT Miranda's "business as usual". If she were her normal detached self, she would recognize that a loose end has tied itself off and what's more, the merc is distracted, the perfect opportunity to strike. Strike she does, but in anger, and not as a proffesional.strive wrote...
I do the opposite of you. Miranda is presented as professional, cold, pragmatic, etc. outside of Samara I would say she is the most prepared on the squad to take anyone's life and deal with the fallout emotionally.
Stepping into stop Miranda isn't worth the risk of collateral damage imo. I don't think Niket deserves to die, but he isn't worth risking Enyala who is a trigger happy merc with her gun pointed right at you, and is hellbent on getting paid for get Oriana to Mr. Lawson shooting at you. Maybe Niket is captured by Mr. Lawson and is tortured for information? Niket is pretty much dead once he involved himself. Is it gonna hurt Miranda you betcha, however she was already wounded, and Niket was already basically dead to her.
Garrus on the other hand has been putting unreasonable expectations on himself. He thinks vengeance will make his failure as a leader hurt not as much for him or his men's families. However the point is Garrus didn't fail, and if you let him shoot Sidonis that to me reinforces that he did. Garrus needs to open his eyes that he isn't at fault and seeking out Sidonis on motives of unbridled wrath or "justice" for his false failings isn't a healthy mindset.
Just my two cents on those two situations.
I didn't expect anything else from youCrutchCricket wrote...
Ieldra, I've stumbled across your thread on ME2 Shepard before. I have a feeling I disagree with some of your points but I don't have the whole story on that yet. More later perhaps.
Of course we're not restricted to that. But for the primarily scientific organization featured in the Foundation ending, "Prometheus Foundation" has exactly the right symbolism. I don't think we could find anything better in any mythology. For a more STG-like organization things are different. jtav's version works but doesn't fit perfectly. I didn't find anything with the right symbolism yet, but I keep looking.On naming: You know we don't have to stick to Greek mythology for the new organization, right? Or any mythology, though classical connotations do lend it an air of sophistication. Has anyone considered Egyptian or Norse?
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wright1978 wrote...
I think you are probably right Vertigo. Just as someone who's spends his career in marketing i think it strikes me as being rather inflexible/poor handling. They've allowed some VA's to talk about it already. It is hardly a shock Yvonne is doing the rounds given Chuck as finished. Piggybacking on that publicity would seem sensible to me. I'd be briefing her with a limited scope to answer those questions that would build up hype rather than forcing her to give non answers which will mean subsequent interviewers will avoid Mass Effect quesions.
Miranda isn't much for fancy titles. "Director" would probably be appropriate. How the public chooses to perceive her - if they know of her activities - is a different matter. More conservative factions might cook up all sorts of uncomplimentary epithets for her.who would know wrote...
So what would Miranda's title be as leader of the Prometheus Foundation?
jtav wrote...
I know we don't like thinking about Miranda's death but do you think Miranda resigning rather than kill a Shepard she doesn't like but does see as the best hope of humanity, only to die herself, is too cheesy? Shepard would be incredulous and haunted by her death.He doesn't understand why Miranda didn't kill him.
Damn the leak. It's giving me so many ideas that I can't and I find myself quite taken with her replacement.
jtav wrote...
Well, she'd die as she does in-game, for unrelated reasons, but Miranda is self-sacrificing to a fault if Oriana or humanity are involved.
Skullheart wrote...
It sounds like control damage. They aren't ignoring us but they won't change any aspect of the character because of the fans (except for certain group).
Her death would only make dramatic sense if it was connected to her resignation in that setup. Otherwise, it's just a random death. Apart from that, I don't like the death scene in the script for what it implies.jtav wrote...
I know we don't like thinking about Miranda's death but do you think Miranda resigning rather than kill a Shepard she doesn't like but does see as the best hope of humanity, only to die herself, is too cheesy? Shepard would be incredulous and haunted by her death.He doesn't understand why Miranda didn't kill him.
Damn the leak. It's giving me so many ideas that I can't and I find myself quite taken with her replacement.
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