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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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#27601
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MisterJB wrote...

Bioware makes DLC that all fans can buy, They've got no interest in making stuff that only one fandom will buy.
Granted, LotSB was, obviously, much more enjoyable to those who like Liara but at least she was alive in all playthroughs.


LotSB isn't an amazing example, considering Liara's lack of ability to die.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...
Freeman can have Alyx. 

Freeman should have Alyx. But we were discussing hypothetical compatibilty not actual pairings.

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MisterJB wrote...

Bioware makes DLC that all fans can buy, They've got no interest in making stuff that only one fandom will buy.
Granted, LotSB was, obviously, much more enjoyable to those who like Liara but at least she was alive in all playthroughs.


Yeah, basically. The fact that her role in that DLC fitted well for the upcoming events of ME3 made it a broader appeal, IMO. So unless Miranda has a significant enough role to the overall story, I doubt she would get DLC.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...
Freeman can have Alyx. 

Freeman should have Alyx. But we were discussing hypothetical compatibilty not actual pairings.


Alyx and Miranda fight to the death, then.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...
Alyx and Miranda fight to the death, then.

But... I can't lose either of them:crying:

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CrutchCricket wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...
Alyx and Miranda fight to the death, then.

But... I can't lose either of them:crying:


You were fine with sacrificing someone on Virmire.

So DO IT.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

You were fine with sacrificing someone on Virmire.

So DO IT.

That's because Kaidan is about as interesting as the little garden gnome prop from Ep2. Kinda fun to look at for a bit but you don't mind strapping him to a rocket!

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 18 janvier 2012 - 04:54 .


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CrutchCricket wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

You were fine with sacrificing someone on Virmire.

So DO IT.

That's because Kaidan is about as interesting as the little garden gnome prop from Ep2. Kinda fun to look at for a bit but you don't mind strapping him to a rocket!


Gnome Chompski has more personality than Freeman. and he has a L4D2 crossover. Freeman should be jelly.

I almost forgot. Kaidan and Freeman fight to the death. Kaidan wins.

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So we don't dive even farther off topic... Allow me to remind us all why we love her.

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Is it just me or does it look like she's about to start crying right here? I mean, I know the scene, but it just struck me.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 18 janvier 2012 - 05:02 .


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AgitatedLemon wrote...
I almost forgot. Kaidan and Freeman fight to the death. Kaidan wins.

I think not. Freeman -> Combine Ball -> Headshot -> Kaidan.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...
I almost forgot. Kaidan and Freeman fight to the death. Kaidan wins.

I think not. Freeman -> Combine Ball -> Headshot -> Kaidan.


Kaidan is psychic.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

Kaidan is psychic.

No he's biotic, which means he can raise ME fields. The combine ball is dark energy. ME fields can't touch energy. Kaidan gets disintegrated.

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If you're quick, you can notice a bit of anxiety at the begging of the scene. Then, as soon as she notices Shep, she's all flirtation.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Kaidan is psychic.

No he's biotic, which means he can raise ME fields. The combine ball is dark energy. ME fields can't touch energy. Kaidan gets disintegrated.


Kaidan --> sidesteps, dodges.

Kaidan --> lifts Freeman, Warp bomb.

He's essentially psychic, considering one of the 3 biotic disciplines is aptly named "Telekinesis".

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 18 janvier 2012 - 05:04 .


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AgitatedLemon wrote...
Kaidan --> sidesteps, dodges.

Kaidan --> lifts Freeman, Warp bomb.

He's essentially psychic, considering on of the 3 biotic disciplines is aptly named "Telekinesis".

"Automatic Medical Systems Engaged"

Freeman ->Crossbow(HL2)->Headshot-> Kaidan (it travels slowly enough to not be stopped by his barriers but too fast to be dodged.)

I can call myself Jedi Grand Master, doesn't mean I have the Force.

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 18 janvier 2012 - 05:11 .


#27616
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jtav wrote...

If you're quick, you can notice a bit of anxiety at the begging of the scene. Then, as soon as she notices Shep, she's all flirtation.


What is there to be anxious about? She planned to "coincidentally" meet him in front of the elevator, so she planned the whole thing out.

I'm curious as to what she told Tali to make her leave the engine room though.

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I'm curious as to what she told Tali to make her leave the engine room though.

"Garrus needs help with his calibrations"?

What do people think of that pairing?

We should probably stop derailing:P

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CrutchCricket wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...
Kaidan --> sidesteps, dodges.

Kaidan --> lifts Freeman, Warp bomb.

He's essentially psychic, considering on of the 3 biotic disciplines is aptly named "Telekinesis".

"Automatic Medical Systems Engaged"

Freeman ->Crossbow(HL2)->Headshot-> Kaidan (it travels slowly enough to not be stopped by his barriers but too fast to be dodged.)

I can call myself Jedi Grand Master, doesn't mean I have the Force.


His Kinetic Barriers wouldn't stop the bolt, but his biotic barriers would.

Kaidan's weapons are vastly superior to Freeman's anyway.

Phalanx pistol -- boom headshot -- Freeman decapitated. 

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

His Kinetic Barriers wouldn't stop the bolt, but his biotic barriers would.

Would they? Biotic barriers are still ME fields. I wonder if they operate on the same principle of only stopping projectiles of a cetain speed. Like would a biotic barrier stop a punch?

Otherwise should Freeman bring out the Super Gravity gun? One activation=Kaidan ragdoll. But anyway this has gone on long enough.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

What is there to be anxious about? She planned to "coincidentally" meet him in front of the elevator, so she planned the whole thing out.


Asking someone out/making a move on someone is stressful. Unless you are Shaft. Or Austin Powers. I woudl say she was very nervous planning/executing that.

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Miranda seems terrified of getting her heart broken. I get the feeling she's been rejected often once she moves beyond sex. And Shep absolutely can break her heart. She's given him that power and it scares her.

#27622
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Barriers don't protect against melee attacks, hazardous environments, or debris.

Like I said though, it doesn't matter. Phalanx pistol -- boom headshot.

Anyway...

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I know I posted this same image a page or 3 back, but I just love it.

edit: Take a look at this picture. Does Shepard look like he'd dump her after making the sexy time?

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 18 janvier 2012 - 05:23 .


#27623
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jtav wrote...

Miranda seems terrified of getting her heart broken. I get the feeling she's been rejected often once she moves beyond sex. And Shep absolutely can break her heart. She's given him that power and it scares her.


Not to be too lovestruck fanboyish, but who in their right mind would reject Miranda? Unless she only did the sex but maintained an icy exterior. But you said beyond sex.

Edit :ph34r:'d but in the best way possible. That image was when I truly felt victory after first beating ME2. Of course it was my  custom Shepard but not the default. But I screencapped and it's my wallpaper to this day. And my old computer has the lap-couch time pic as its wallpaper.

By the way, you can't just say boom headshot since I've already said boom headshot twice. Oh and I forgot all about the tau cannon or gluon gun. Directed energy, undodgeable... Ok, we're done with this.

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 18 janvier 2012 - 05:27 .


#27624
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CrutchCricket wrote...

jtav wrote...

Miranda seems terrified of getting her heart broken. I get the feeling she's been rejected often once she moves beyond sex. And Shep absolutely can break her heart. She's given him that power and it scares her.


Not to be too lovestruck fanboyish, but who in their right mind would reject Miranda? Unless she only did the sex but maintained an icy exterior. But you said beyond sex.


Rejection for anything other than sex would defeat the purpose of trying to start a relationship.

edit: Unless you were just a real manipulative a-hole.

Like Freeman.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 18 janvier 2012 - 05:26 .


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Re: the whole romance issue, I find "not good enough" to be a weird way of putting it, since it feels derogatory. I wouldn't say that Jacob is not good enough for Miranda, he is good enough, they obviously enjoyed each other's company, and she cares about him (seemingly no longer in a romantic way, but he is still part of the small group of people toward whom Miranda feels a large amount of attachment and loyalty).

To me the issue is more that I don't see the relationship as having any meaning or presenting any challenge to the character, thus there is no story potential there. Shepard, on the other hand, does present a challenge, and the relationship is meaningful on the many different levels that we have discussed on other occasions.

I had never really considered it before, but I think Liara is the other relationship that potentially could be meaningful in a similar way. Because Miranda seems to see Asari culture, in certain respects, as the goal to which she aspires (model for human advancement).

Modifié par flemm, 18 janvier 2012 - 05:28 .