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[AgitatedLemon]

jtav wrote...

I really want Matt to have a normal life. That's what he always wanted. He's a marine because they more or less made him, so he is going to be painting exquisite nudes of his wife for many decades to come.On Bekenstein, probably.

Now Lawrence, who is the Shepard I'm writing now, he'll be running a PMC or something like that. Soldiering is all he knows. Him I imagine more Earth-based. Miranda is TIW in both cases, though it's a really long story for Lawrence.

@ bold

And people say I'm a horny bastard.

[AgitatedLemon]

MisterJB wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...
I just thought of a scenario for Miranda:

I could see her becoming a University professor, providing the same quality education she received as a girl. She'd be a strict and high-standard, yet workable teacher.

... What? They don't need to both be packed with explosions and gunfire.

While I do agree that their relationship doesn't need a threat of eminent death to work, I do believe you are thinking a little too small.
Miranda would like some job where she could continue acomplishing the impossible for the good of humanity.

After everything the 2 of them have accomplished, there isn't a lot of "the impossible" that is followed by imminent death.

I mean, Miranda brought Shepard back from the dead after 2 years. What other significant tech advances are there, aside from teleportation and time travel?

[android654]

AgitatedLemon wrote...
I just thought of a scenario for Miranda:

I could see her becoming a University professor, providing the same quality education she received as a girl. She'd be a strict and high-standard, yet workable teacher.

... What? They don't need to both be packed with explosions and gunfire.

I agree, I think for her becoming a professor would seem nonsensical Its rather insignificant by comparison I also don't think she could stay with a Shepard that would try to persuade her into doing something like that since its so against her character.

[jtav]

He mentions it to Grunt. I think the relationship will be just fine within the confines of the game, and beyond that will be left to the player's imagination. I think Matt and Miranda are very well suited, and I would be really upset if they didn't get their happy ending. I'm really growing on Lawrence as well.

[android654]

schemata wrote...

Lemon said he'd kill Wilson too. At that point there wasn't enough information one way or the other to inform a decision so killing Wilson then would be irrational and a risk to keep him alive.

completely disagree here. It's heavily implied throughout the lazarus project multiple times.  But I also don't believe you need guilt written in blood to make the call either, or on a datapad. You just piece it together.  They throw those kinds of things at you so hard, and I hate the story for moments like that- but yet some people still don't make the connection.

As for where Shepard and Miranda would go after the Reapers? Nowhere I'd wager. I don't see much life for that type of relationship outside of this trilogy. Miranda is the type of person who thrives on the fulfillment she gets from her work. Paragon Shepard states a few times that he plans on stopping at some point, that just isn't Miranda. I think outside of the war against the repears their "love" doesn't have much to go on since Miranda is nowhere near needing to stop doing any of the things she's currently doing.

When did this happen? Thanks

He says it to Grunt after his loyalty mission, Liara at two spots I think during LOTSB and one other character, but I'm drawing a blank. But its pretty clear Paragon Shepard wants this to be over with already.

[AgitatedLemon]

jtav wrote...

He mentions it to Grunt. I think the relationship will be just fine within the confines of the game, and beyond that will be left to the player's imagination. I think Matt and Miranda are very well suited, and I would be really upset if they didn't get their happy ending. I'm really growing on Lawrence as well.

Your Shepard told Grunt that he was going to spend the rest of his days drawing nude Miranda?

<-- Is jealous.

[jtav]

Miranda is very ambitious. She likes achievement. And there's going to be a nice big galaxy to rebuild that would benefit enormously from her administrative and scientific expertise, without even touching the covert ops aspect.

[android654]

jtav wrote...
I think Matt and Miranda are very well suited, and I would be really upset if they didn't get their happy ending. I'm really growing on Lawrence as well.

That's because you have the benefit of elaborating the characters in your head and on paper. I'm merely going off of what's been written/

jreezy wrote...

android654 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...
I just thought of a scenario for Miranda:

I could see her becoming a University professor, providing the same quality education she received as a girl. She'd be a strict and high-standard, yet workable teacher.

... What? They don't need to both be packed with explosions and gunfire.

 its so against her character.

How so?

Umm I kind of wrote it a page back...


As for where Shepard and Miranda would go after the Reapers? Nowhere I'd wager. I don't see much life for that type of relationship outside of this trilogy. Miranda is the type of person who thrives on the fulfillment she gets from her work. Paragon Shepard states a few times that he plans on stopping at some point, that just isn't Miranda. I think outside of the war against the repears their "love" doesn't have much to go on since Miranda is nowhere near needing to stop doing any of the things she's currently doing.

She kind of reminds me of the rumors of Japanese soldiers on uncharted islands unaware that WWII is over, she'll constantly keep working like a threat will never stop even after its gone.

[AgitatedLemon]

jtav wrote...

Miranda is very ambitious. She likes achievement. And there's going to be a nice big galaxy to rebuild that would benefit enormously from her administrative and scientific expertise, without even touching the covert ops aspect.

Are you agreeing with my "Miranda as a professor" suggestion?

[jtav]

And Matt usually ignores Grunt.

[MisterJB]

AgitatedLemon wrote...
After everything the 2 of them have accomplished, there isn't a lot of "the impossible" that is followed by imminent death.
I mean, Miranda brought Shepard back from the dead after 2 years. What other significant tech advances are there, aside from teleportation and time travel?

The human race is not going anywhere and neither will its problems.
Poverty, disease, crippling accidents, climate problems, etc.
Not to mention that after the war is over and there is Reaper technology raining everywhere, the galaxy will be more chaotic than ever. There will be a race to see who can understand and mass produce Reaper tech, there will be empty colonies to claim, Earth will have to be rebuilt, or Alien allies will have to be watched to make sure they remains such.
There's always more work to be done for the good of the species.

Modifié par MisterJB, 20 janvier 2012 - 02:23 .

[android654]

*snip*

Modifié par android654, 20 janvier 2012 - 02:23 .

[schemata]

I wasn't implying their relationship needs gunfire and chaos to work, but to stay true to who they are- I imagine Shep with the spectres (para) and miri building a better cereberus. (or renegade shep co-leading) with miri. I dont see them retiring for a nice life. Its not like there doing this so they can finally have peace, Sheps a spectre, miri is an elite operative they were both doing these things pre-knowledge of the reapers. Its about them staying true to who they are. I just think it might not go down as well, simple because whatever they do after ME3 wont be as important as what they did.

Dont want them to be one of "THOSE" people that all they can talk about is that "one" time they did some great. Course it wouldnt necessarily end up that way- but Im just saying.

As far as the teacher/home life. even at older age I dont think theyll be able to step away from their core.

[jtav]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

jtav wrote...

Miranda is very ambitious. She likes achievement. And there's going to be a nice big galaxy to rebuild that would benefit enormously from her administrative and scientific expertise, without even touching the covert ops aspect.

Are you agreeing with my "Miranda as a professor" suggestion?

No. I'm emphatically disagreeing with it. This is a woman who likes a challenge and likes being in charge. She'd take over LaswsonCo or Cerberus, or become a member of an STG-style organization. I cannot see this woman ever teaching a group. It requires a patience, fondness for bureaucracy, and willingness to deal with people that she simply does not have.

[AgitatedLemon]

MisterJB wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...
After everything the 2 of them have accomplished, there isn't a lot of "the impossible" that is followed by imminent death.
I mean, Miranda brought Shepard back from the dead after 2 years. What other significant tech advances are there, aside from teleportation and time travel?

The human race is not going anywhere and neither will its problems.
Poverty, disease, crippling accidents, climate problems, etc.
Not to mention that after the war is over and there is Reaper technology raining everywhere, the galaxy will be more chaotic than ever. There will be a race to see who can understand and mass produce Reaper tech, there will be empty colonies to claim, Earth will have to be rebuilt, or Alien allies will have to be watched to make sure they remains such.
There's always more work to be done for the good of the species.

With the Reaper tech we all already have access to, I don't think it's that easy to mass produce, given how nobody has done it yet.

Besides, the galaxy has been policed adequately on it's own before Shepard (Or humanity) arrived on the scene.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 20 janvier 2012 - 02:28 .

[jtav]

Shepard can step away because Shepard is a construct of the player, and if I were forced to play the kind of character who had to stay an action hero, I'd arrange for all my Sheps to be killed off.

[AgitatedLemon]

I'm surprised no one has noticed that I edited my post about "Miranda as a professor", or has acknowledged that it was just a suggestion.

Has everyone forgotten how vocal I am about Miranda repurposing Cerberus?

[Harshfact]

Miri should become Doctor's Companion it's the only thing that will keep her from going insane but to be honest, yeah i don't think i see her settling down with shep .. i think as Paragon as mine is they'll just continue to be on duty whenever needed i just find the whole settling down scenario a bit of cliche and cheesy

[AgitatedLemon]

Harshfact wrote...

Miri should become Doctor's Companion it's the only thing that will keep her from going insane but to be honest, yeah i don't think i see her settling down with shep .. i think as Paragon as mine is they'll just continue to be on duty whenever needed i just find the whole settling down scenario a bit of cliche and cheesy

Ain't nuttin' wrong with a bit of cheese in a relationship.

[CrutchCricket]

People (including fictional characters) change. Real people can change abruptly. For reasons not fully understood by me we deny fictional characters that right. Nevertheless they can change as well if the change follows a logical and natural progression. So just because ME2-3 Miranda can't settle down doesn't mean ME3+10yrs Miranda won't.

The university professor thing isn't too far off. Most people do go bigger but it's not completely unfeasible. Besides this is still fiction we're talking about. And there is one very famous university professor that isn't just a dry academic: Indiana Jones *whistles theme:whistle:

One thing I would amend is that instead of joining an existing institution, she would likely found her own, with an emphasis on some practical and well.... ass-kicking skills. Less dried up academic and more Professor X.

[android654]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

I'm surprised no one has noticed that I edited my post about "Miranda as a professor", or has acknowledged that it was just a suggestion.

Has everyone forgotten how vocal I am about Miranda repurposing Cerberus?

That's kind of the problem though. There aren't enough variables to make Shepard the type of person who would emphatically agree with that. I think that inevitably they would not stick together very long after the war. There would feel like an element is lost since the relationship wouldn't be the same. Shepard can't be commander when he's living in a normal place trying to live a normal life. And that's all he would have since a Mirandaified Cerberus doesn't look like it would have a place for Shepard.

AgitatedLemon wrote...
Ain't nuttin' wrong with a bit of cheese in a relationship.

...That's what kills a relationship.

Modifié par android654, 20 janvier 2012 - 02:36 .

[Harshfact]

CrutchCricket wrote...

People (including fictional characters) change. Real people can change abruptly. For reasons not fully understood by me we deny fictional characters that right. Nevertheless they can change as well if the change follows a logical and natural progression. So just because ME2-3 Miranda can't settle down doesn't mean ME3+10yrs Miranda won't.

The university professor thing isn't too far off. Most people do go bigger but it's not completely unfeasible. Besides this is still fiction we're talking about. And there is one very famous university professor that isn't just a dry academic: Indiana Jones *whistles theme:whistle:

One thing I would amend is that instead of joining an existing institution, she would likely found her own, with an emphasis on some practical and well.... ass-kicking skills. Less dried up academic and more Professor X.

Change in real life is sometimes accepting i ust find Miranda too smart even in softened up form to be caught by her feelings long term however you indi and Prof X idea is brillaint... if that happens it will be awesome

Modifié par Harshfact, 20 janvier 2012 - 02:36 .

[AgitatedLemon]

CrutchCricket wrote...

People (including fictional characters) change. Real people can change abruptly. For reasons not fully understood by me we deny fictional characters that right. Nevertheless they can change as well if the change follows a logical and natural progression. So just because ME2-3 Miranda can't settle down doesn't mean ME3+10yrs Miranda won't.

The university professor thing isn't too far off. Most people do go bigger but it's not completely unfeasible. Besides this is still fiction we're talking about. And there is one very famous university professor that isn't just a dry academic: Indiana Jones *whistles theme:whistle:

One thing I would amend is that instead of joining an existing institution, she would likely found her own, with an emphasis on some practical and well.... ass-kicking skills. Less dried up academic and more Professor X.

Huh.

Good points you bring up.

And for everyone else, when I brought up "Miranda as a professor" I wasn't implying that she'd be a boring and lame "realistic" teacher. She'd be able to do stuff behind the scenes, like operate within Cerberus, if it still exists and has been repurposed. A Professor X or Indy- type schtick would be really cool actually.

I'm not sure why people need their fictional characters to remain the same for all of eternity.

[CrutchCricket]

Intelligence and feelings have nothing to do with each other. Different parts of the brain my friend.

And seriously, no room in an STG-like organization for Shepard? Come now, surely you jest.