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[Ieldra]

naledgeborn wrote...
I have a question, is it possible to get the Paramour Achievement on Xbox without the engine room scene?

IIRC it's unlocked with the romance scene. But you can always let the scene play and then reload to the last romance conversation and play the postponement path if you want.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 28 juin 2011 - 06:23 .

[ParadoxAu]

I had an idea regarding the Re-union scene. Harbinger has already made it clear he wants to Harvest Shepard, so with that in mind.. I thought of the following scenario.

Harbinger could use The Illusive Man to set a trap for Shepard. Shepard attacks a Cerberus facility (based on Intel that it held an important weapon against the Reapers), however he is caught off guard and subdued.

Shepard wakes to find himself Strapped down to an unusual device that appears to be a modified version of the Collector Pod's. Kai Leng walks into the Lab and explains that by harvesting Shepard, it will solidify a bond between Humanity and The Reapers, allowing for the ascension of all Humanity to Harbinger.

Kai Leng signals to his Scientist colleague to begin the procedure. As the machine begins it's start-up protocols, Gunfire is heard outside, Kai turns around wielding his Sword, looking around vigilantly. The machine locksdown and enters it's final stages of prep. He catches a glance of the intruder and says "Traitor!" just before being shot in the head with perfect precision.

Miranda walks into the room and shoots the Scientist in the Leg, demanding he turn the machine off. The Scientist grins and tells Miranda that it's too late, the harvesting procedure has already begun. Miranda finishes the scientist off.

Miranda hiding her concern for Shepard, creates a powerful biotic barrier around Shepard using all of her strength she overloads the barrier to destroy the Harvesting Tech.

Miranda says something to Shepard about having to save his life again.

Miranda and Shep share a tender hug that's interrupted by the station seemingly falling. Miranda realises that the Overload must have interfered with the stations Core, and the station is pulled into the gravity field of the nearby asteroid cluster. Miri & Shep barely make it to the Shuttle before the Station crashes into the Asteroid Cluster.

Shep signals the Normandy and Joker picks them both up. Shep & Miri share a special reunion in the safety of the shuttle, whilst waiting for the Normandy.

It could use some work, I'm sure Ieldra or Yannkee could write some good dialogue for Miranda and the shuttle scene. This is mostly just an outline.

NOTE - I haven't read the Mass Effect Books, so I don't know a great deal about Kai Leng, aside that he's a strong Cerberus operative. I plan to buy the Mass Effect books soon.

Modifié par ParadoxAu, 28 juin 2011 - 06:48 .

[Ieldra]

Estelindis wrote...
If I may pop my head in here to offer some input on the Oriana issue, I always felt it was a bit strange how Miranda can totally turn against TIM during the suicide mission without any apparent thought for her sister. Personally, I'd like it to turn out that she secretly arranged for
Oriana's family to be moved out of Cerberus influence before the suicide
mission (as if she was already having doubts).

Indeed. Ties all in with her resigination appearing contrived, even without considering this aspect. It will be interesting to see if they can retcon it to something more convincing. 

Otherwise, there might come a time in ME3 where she has to choose between Oriana's life and a larger strategic goal in the fight against the Reapers - choose, and live with that choice ever after (unless she ends up giving her life to save her sister, but given her abilities and power to affect the war, even this self-sacrifice might be detrimental to the war).

I think this is one of the more likely things to happen. I'm not sure I want it though. In this case, I'd rather be able to wriggle out of the hard choice in some way, like in the scenario I posted two pages upthread.

[Ieldra]

ParadoxAu wrote...

Harbinger could use The Illusive Man to set a trap for Shepard. Shepard attacks a Cerberus facility (based on Intel that it held an important weapon against the Reapers), however he is caught off guard and subdued.

Shepard wakes to find himself Strapped down to an unusual device that appears to be a modified version of the Collector Pod's. Kai Leng walks into the Lab and explains that by harvesting Shepard, it will solidify a bond between Humanity and The Reapers, allowing for the ascension of all Humanity to Harbinger.

Kai Leng signals to his Scientist colleague to begin the procedure. As the machine begins it's start-up protocols, Gunfire is heard outside, Kai turns around wielding his Sword, looking around vigilantly. The machine locksdown and enters it's final stages of prep. He catches a glance of the intruder and says "Traitor!" just before being shot in the head with perfect precision.

Miranda walks into the room and shoots the Scientist in the Leg, demanding he turn the machine off. The Scientist grins and tells Miranda that it's too late, the harvesting procedure has already begun. Miranda finishes the scientist off.

Miranda hiding her concern for Shepard, creates a powerful biotic barrier around Shepard using all of her strength she overloads the barrier to destroy the Harvesting Tech.

Miranda says something to Shepard about having to save his life again.

Miranda and Shep share a tender hug that's interrupted by the station seemingly falling. Miranda realises that the Overload must have interfered with the stations Core, and the station is pulled into the gravity field of the nearby asteroid cluster. Miri & Shep barely make it to the Shuttle before the Station crashes into the Asteroid Cluster.

Shep signals the Normandy and Joker picks them both up. Shep & Miri share a special reunion in the safety of the shuttle, whilst waiting for the Normandy.

It could use some work, I'm sure Ieldra or Yannkee could write some good dialogue for Miranda and the shuttle scene. This is mostly just an outline.

NOTE - I haven't read the Mass Effect Books, so I don't know a great deal about Kai Leng, aside that he's a strong Cerberus operative. I plan to buy the Mass Effect books soon.

This is a very interesting scene. I'll get back to you later. Just letting you know I won't forget this, since I'll likely be offline for a day and a bit.

[Arijharn]

ieldra, about your idea... it could work if they just made it 'canon' that they eventually did speak, whether at shep's suggestion or later 'behind the scene's'

[Jebel Krong]

i'll be very unhappy if there's yet another scene where shepard's incapacitated... 'Arrival' was bad enough. having the player character needing to be rescued is generally a no-no as most people don't like to be taken out of the action any more than necessary, in fact the only game that did it well (actually brilliantly), that i've played, was MGS: Snake Eater. even in games where you do, it's usually as brief as possible (half-life 1 etc).

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 28 juin 2011 - 10:23 .

[Arijharn]

Agree with you there Jebel... especially since shep is supposed to be the bad ass.

Also, I literally only just noticed that with Ieldra's signature there's no space between 'I'm Commander [...]' :S

[ParadoxAu]

Jebel Krong wrote...

i'll be very unhappy if there's yet another scene where shepard's incapacitated... 'Arrival' was bad enough. having the player character needing to be rescued is generally a no-no as most people don't like to be taken out of the action any more than necessary, in fact the only game that did it well (actually brilliantly), that i've played, was MGS: Snake Eater. even in games where you do, it's usually as brief as possible (half-life 1 etc).

You make a good point. I admit, that alot of players hate being taken out of the action, it's been a growing problem in the gaming industry as a whole. Although in a Trilogy that has already established a heavy use for cutscenes, I think it has potential.

I can certainly understand where you're coming from. It's a very fine line to tread, especially considering not all players have the same interest in Miranda as we do.

I particularly disliked Arrival's incapacitation, it seemed like it was used as an easier way to convey a sense of urgency in the mission.

Arijharn wrote...

Agree with you there Jebel... especially since shep is supposed to be the bad ass.

That's another good point. I can understand that for alot of players this would be counter-intuitive to Shepard's Character.

In all honesty, It's more of a vague concept rather than a fleshed out suggestion.

Modifié par ParadoxAu, 28 juin 2011 - 01:05 .

[atwatters]

Toshir wrote...

Miranda is so much better than Ashley. Ashley was incredibly bland but she'll likely take Miranda's spot. Le sigh.

Ashley is ok and at least has more personality then Kaiden, who is about as interesting as a wet noodle. Miranda, however, is without a doubt a much deeper character who is a perfect compliment to Shepard. Even the break up line with Miranda is something like "this won't work, we're just too alike." I have probably beaten ME 2 around 6 times now and still haven't chosen a different LI.

[Vertigo_1]

ParadoxAu wrote...

I had an idea regarding the Re-union scene. Harbinger has already made it clear he wants to Harvest Shepard, so with that in mind.. I thought of the following scenario.

Harbinger could use The Illusive Man to set a trap for Shepard. Shepard attacks a Cerberus facility (based on Intel that it held an important weapon against the Reapers), however he is caught off guard and subdued.

Shepard wakes to find himself Strapped down to an unusual device that appears to be a modified version of the Collector Pod's. Kai Leng walks into the Lab and explains that by harvesting Shepard, it will solidify a bond between Humanity and The Reapers, allowing for the ascension of all Humanity to Harbinger.

Kai Leng signals to his Scientist colleague to begin the procedure. As the machine begins it's start-up protocols, Gunfire is heard outside, Kai turns around wielding his Sword, looking around vigilantly. The machine locksdown and enters it's final stages of prep. He catches a glance of the intruder and says "Traitor!" just before being shot in the head with perfect precision.

Miranda walks into the room and shoots the Scientist in the Leg, demanding he turn the machine off. The Scientist grins and tells Miranda that it's too late, the harvesting procedure has already begun. Miranda finishes the scientist off.

Miranda hiding her concern for Shepard, creates a powerful biotic barrier around Shepard using all of her strength she overloads the barrier to destroy the Harvesting Tech.

Miranda says something to Shepard about having to save his life again.

Miranda and Shep share a tender hug that's interrupted by the station seemingly falling. Miranda realises that the Overload must have interfered with the stations Core, and the station is pulled into the gravity field of the nearby asteroid cluster. Miri & Shep barely make it to the Shuttle before the Station crashes into the Asteroid Cluster.

Shep signals the Normandy and Joker picks them both up. Shep & Miri share a special reunion in the safety of the shuttle, whilst waiting for the Normandy.

It could use some work, I'm sure Ieldra or Yannkee could write some good dialogue for Miranda and the shuttle scene. This is mostly just an outline.

NOTE - I haven't read the Mass Effect Books, so I don't know a great deal about Kai Leng, aside that he's a strong Cerberus operative. I plan to buy the Mass Effect books soon.

I don't now if this is all that great for two reasons.
Kai Leng dying in two seconds (basically) devalues the character established in the books.  Like you said he's a strong character.  We also know he is after Shepard.

Cerberus is indoctrinated as Hudson noted during the GTTV E3 Earth demo, and banter between Shepard and Liara during the Sur-Kesh demo.

This is also too 'Arrival' like: being captured again...eh

Otherwise I think it's ok.

[Melra]

So there's been ''news'' about Mordin possibly been recast, since the actor hasn't been asked to do any lines for ME3 yet. I just hope Miri is still Yvonne, though I suppose that's kinda silly to worry about it, but if they really changed Mordin, who's voice acting was some of the best in game, imo, then anyone's ass could be on the line.

thegamingliberty.com/index.php/2011/06/28/mordin-solus-officially-recast-for-mass-effect-3/

Modifié par Melrache, 28 juin 2011 - 04:19 .

[Vertigo_1]

Melrache wrote...

So there's been ''news'' about Mordin possibly been recast, since the actor hasn't been asked to do any lines for ME3 yet. I just hope Miri is still Yvonne, though I suppose that's kinda silly to worry about it, but if they really changed Mordin, who's voice acting was some of the best in game, imo, then anyone's ass could be on the line.

People are panicking over nothing:

The title of that article says hes been officially recast when in fact there hasn't been anything official yet.
He said that he hasn't been recast YET.  We are still months from release and Mac just did a first pass at romance dialogue.....

But I suspect people will panic since that is easier to do.. <_<

[Melra]

Oh well, I wonder why wouldn't they sign him before hand, like Yvonne ( possibly?), if they planned to use Mordin in ME3.

Anyway, did Liara ask Shepard about his thoughts on Miranda, if you do LOTSB, before SM? I can't remember, been awhile since last time I played.

Modifié par Melrache, 28 juin 2011 - 04:39 .

[Master Shiori]

It might be because he has a small role in ME3. They'd make sure that the VA's for important characters or those with lots of dialogue are signed first.

Can't answer about Liara since I always do LotSB after the suicide mission.

[Vertigo_1]

Good news - Voice-recording for ME3 was already being done pre-E3 (Garrus and Anderson have completely new lines in the E3 demo).

Bad news - Its fairly common in the videogame industry to bring VA's in during the latter months of production -

"It is common (and bad) practice to seek voice actors late in the development process when the script is almost finished when "getting the voices in" is high on the agenda. The process: get game working, rewrite voice script to match final gameplay, cast actors, record actors, get voice assets in game and get it mastered before the deadline.

A high percentage of my time is spent talking with dev teams and publishers regarding best practice as this common practice, deemed expedient, doesn't lead to good results." - Mark Estdale; Casting Director

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 28 juin 2011 - 04:53 .

[Melra]

Oh well, I have no reason to panic, I haven't decided to buy the game yet anyhow. Still seeing, if I should. I can live without it, but I can't play ME3 without Miri, that's more than a small cameo + Yvonne as her VA.

[jamesp81]

enayasoul wrote...

Td1984 wrote...

enayasoul wrote...

jtav wrote...

Ieldra, Oriana is the proverbial gun on the mantelpiece. If she (specifically the fact that her safety is dependent on Miranda being in Cerberus' good graces) isn't used in ME3, I'll be annoyed because they set up that thread and didn't follow through with it.

I happen to agree with this.  Miranda, Oriana, her father and dealing with Cerberus are all connected in various ways.  I want to know about all of them. How they are dealt with.   6-12 months Miranda could have brought Oriana to a safe place we just don't know what happened in that time frame yet.

I do believe that Miri can easily take care of Oriana in-between games. Due to the 6-12 month break, we know the Reapers are starting on the south end of the galaxy. So, Miranda swoops in, grabs Oriana and her adoptive family and moves them to a planet in the far north end of the galaxy. That way, either the Reapers will be stopped before their (Oriana & her family)  new home is endangered, or we'll all be dead because we lost and it will no longer matter anyway. 

Yeah, that's what I've been thinking of too... from exploring the me2 galaxy map... doesn't seem to be much available that far north...  the human worlds like bekestein, elysium and so forth seem to be down near earth...

I wonder where they are going to have Thessia and the Salarian homeworld or even Turians?  Guess will have to wait and find out.

Turians are located in the same general vicinity as humans and batarians, from what I've gathered.

Still, just because they started in the south doesn't mean they won't work their way north.

[jamesp81]

Jebel Krong wrote...

i'll be very unhappy if there's yet another scene where shepard's incapacitated... 'Arrival' was bad enough. having the player character needing to be rescued is generally a no-no as most people don't like to be taken out of the action any more than necessary, in fact the only game that did it well (actually brilliantly), that i've played, was MGS: Snake Eater. even in games where you do, it's usually as brief as possible (half-life 1 etc).

Oh, I dunno, I liked that part in Arrival.  When that scientist ran outside, put up the shield, and then folded her arms like "you can't do anything".

I smiled real big and said, "Keep talking ****, your turn is coming soon."  And it did

[Vertigo_1]

http://twitter.com/#...762783555239938

"Thanks for your answer. Can't you already reveal the voice of Miranda? ;-) No problem if not, I will wait for the list ."

"Unfortunately, we have to wait until our official announcement for the #ME3 cast. Any requests?"

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 28 juin 2011 - 05:38 .

[Melra]

jamesp81 wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...

i'll be very unhappy if there's yet another scene where shepard's incapacitated... 'Arrival' was bad enough. having the player character needing to be rescued is generally a no-no as most people don't like to be taken out of the action any more than necessary, in fact the only game that did it well (actually brilliantly), that i've played, was MGS: Snake Eater. even in games where you do, it's usually as brief as possible (half-life 1 etc).

Oh, I dunno, I liked that part in Arrival.  When that scientist ran outside, put up the shield, and then folded her arms like "you can't do anything".

I smiled real big and said, "Keep talking ****, your turn is coming soon."  And it did

Well I don't really mind, if it serves an useful purpose, sure in game like Mass Effect, it has to be differently to either fit all possible paths the player might take or to make it avoidable through different decision.

Here's scene that uploaded, which I didn't mind for example. It has some spoilers for Crysis 2, so watch at your own risk.

www.youtube.com/watch

[Shepherd10]

 Hey guys, I'm not sure how acurate this list at imdb since it can be edited the same way that wikipedia can, but it looks like Yvonne will be reprising her role as Miranda after all! Along with pretty much everyone else who was involved with the series since the beginning! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1839558/

[Melra]

IMDB isn't really accurate. Nothing has been officially confirmed, so...

[Td1984]

Yeah, one of the devs said they haven't announced the cast yet, so IMDB is possibly way off.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

My copy of ME2 for PC is not working. When I press start in the menu, it stops and the screen goes away and the computer says "Mass Effect 2 has stopped working. T____T

[Melra]

This is Miri support thread, not technical support thread, there's own section on these forums for that purpose alone, check the FAQ there. If you can't find it from FAQ, then ask it on the tech boards.