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[MisterJB]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Why are they so damn creepy? They treat Tali as if she's the greatest character in the Mass Effect Series and as if she's some "cute" sex toy.

 

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

^ What?

[Abispa]

MisterJB wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Why are they so damn creepy? They treat Tali as if she's the greatest character in the Mass Effect Series and as if she's some "cute" sex toy.

 

Hmm. No offense meant but I see that here, too. My very favorite character is Ashley and she has fans like that. James Vega even has fans venturing into that territory, and he hasn't even shown up yet (though I do think a lot of Vega fans are tongue in cheek about it).

Modifié par Abispa, 22 janvier 2012 - 08:15 .

[ThomGau]

Emotionaly blackmailing Miranda by using her sister would fit TIM's personnality . I definitely wouldn't want to see such a scenario . It would be extremely sadistic from BW to do so .

As for TIM knowing about Miranda/Shepard's relationship, I don't think he was aware of it during ME2 . Though it is a possibility in ME3, I'd like to see him alluding to it .

Modifié par ThomGau, 22 janvier 2012 - 08:17 .

[MisterJB]

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...

Simple. Showing that she isn't with Cerberus isn't something they want to reveal. Without the leak, her loyalties are unknown.

Bah. Was there ever any doubt she wouldn't be with Cerberus after they'd been revealed as major antagonists?

If the leak had Jacob's part but not Miranda's, I'd be seriously concerned right now.

[AgitatedLemon]

New Page:



D'awwww

And then they look out the window, and the mood turns more "Oh sh*t!"

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 22 janvier 2012 - 08:17 .

[jtav]

Also see Paul Grayson. I was half-convinced she'd be indoctrinated.

[MisterJB]

Abispa wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Why are they so damn creepy? They treat Tali as if she's the greatest character in the Mass Effect Series and as if she's some "cute" sex toy.

 

Hmm. No offense meant but I see that here, too.

That was my point.

[ClanMacNab]

Ieldra2 wrote...

ClanMacNab wrote...

Swaggacide wrote...

Is Oriana aware of the Shepard/Miranda romance?

I think she encouraged it in her email to Shepard after Miri's LM.

Not exactly, though I guess you could read it that way. From the mail:

"I had a guardian angel all these years. I don't know if my sister has anybody. She said she's working for you, and it was pretty clear that you were doing something dangerous. Make sure she comes back alive, OK?"

Edit:
Damn it, ninja'd too many attentive Miranda experts here!

I interpreted that statement this way taken in context with the rest of the note:

"She said she's working for you, and it was pretty clear that you were
doing something dangerous. Make sure she comes back alive, OK?"

If anyone can get her through this alive, I think it's you.

"I don't know if my sister has anybody."

I think that person should be you!

_____________________________________

That note had a tremendous influence on my later decisions.

@nalegeborn - Yep, get her back home by 11:00pm

Modifié par ClanMacNab, 22 janvier 2012 - 08:22 .

[AgitatedLemon]

ClanMacNab wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

ClanMacNab wrote...

Swaggacide wrote...

Is Oriana aware of the Shepard/Miranda romance?

I think she encouraged it in her email to Shepard after Miri's LM.

Not exactly, though I guess you could read it that way. From the mail:

"I had a guardian angel all these years. I don't know if my sister has anybody. She said she's working for you, and it was pretty clear that you were doing something dangerous. Make sure she comes back alive, OK?"

Edit:
Damn it, ninja'd too many attentive Miranda experts here!

I interpreted that statement this way taken in context with the rest of the note:

"She said she's working for you, and it was pretty clear that you were
doing something dangerous. Make sure she comes back alive, OK?"

If anyone can get her through this alive, I think it's you.

"I don't know if my sister has anybody."

I think that person should be you!

@nalegeborn - Yep, get her back home by 11:00pm

Now that I read the whole thing, I can see what you mean.

[naledgeborn]

ThomGau wrote...

As for TIM knowing about Miranda/Shepard's relationship, I don't think he was aware of it during ME2 . Though it is possible in ME3, I'd like to see him alluding to it .

TIM: Well played, Shepard. You turned one of my greatest assets against me. I'll see to it that you find out the true extent of her loyalty.

[jtav]

Oriana doesn't mean it in a romantic sense because you get the letter as FShep.

[MisterJB]

Ieldra2 wrote...
Mac Walters tweeted about her several times. That's where we got the info she'll have several scenes and that she's in a scene he was writing at the time which he considered one of the most challenging to write. That was around GamesCom (mid-August).

If I'm not mistaken, Mac Walters wrote The Illusive Man in ME2, didn't he? TIM also happens to be his favorite character, right?

Grasping at straws here.

[jtav]

I've been wondering lately if TIM wanted Miranda to die on the SM. That the Reapers were priming him subconsciously for his new direction and Miranda now becomes a liability if she makes it back.

[ThomGau]

An indoctrinated Miranda mmm ...

Do you mean she'd be plot-compelled to be like that or would it be because of mistakes done by the player ?

Fortunately for us this can be erased from the speculation board . It would have been rather lame and sadistic from BW in my opinion .

Though I know there's a character who gets indoctrinated if you srew up .

Modifié par ThomGau, 22 janvier 2012 - 08:28 .

[AgitatedLemon]

jtav wrote...

Oriana doesn't mean it in a romantic sense because you get the letter as FShep.

You forget that Miranda was originally meant to be able to be romanced by a female Shepard.


But thanks for killing the mood. Remind me to never invite you to parties.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 22 janvier 2012 - 08:28 .

[AgitatedLemon]

ThomGau wrote...

An indoctrinated Miranda mmm ...

Do you mean she'd be plot-compelled to be like that or would it be because of mistakes done by the player ?

Fortunately for us this can be erased from the speculation board . It would have been rather lame and sadistic from BW in my opinion .

Thank god for that.

I would hate for a scenario such as this.

[jtav]

I just like reminding people that FShep exists and not to use something common to all Sheps as proof of romance.

[MisterJB]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

jtav wrote...

Oriana doesn't mean it in a romantic sense because you get the letter as FShep.

You forget that Miranda was originally able to be romanced by a female Shepard.

Unconfirmed. You can find FemShep discussing Miranda's romance with Mordin, yes. However, that's not a solid evidence because Meer and Hale record all of Shepard's dialogue (male and female) and only later are they sorted between gender.

[Td1984]

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
In ME2, I don't think he minded. Probably saw it as a chance for Shepard to be turned to thr cause. In ME3, it could be a weapon. Capture one and the other comes running.

LOL. At this point TIM should know that getting Miranda and Shepard into the same place is a recipe for disaster if you're their enemy. Learn from the Collectors, Illusive Man!

Pretty much. Pull that kind of stunt and you won't likely live to tell about it.

[AgitatedLemon]

jtav wrote...

I just like reminding people that FShep exists and not to use something common to all Sheps as proof of romance.

No one was using it as proof of romance though, merely looking at it as something that COULD be taken that way.

[Swaggacide]

As much I would like to see TIM say something about the Miri Shepard relationship. Would he even care? I thought he would be trying to kill them regardless. Would their relationship mean anything to him at that point?

[naledgeborn]

It would interest TIM in the form of a weakness he could exploit.

[AgitatedLemon]

Swaggacide wrote...

As much I would like to see TIM say something about the Miri Shepard relationship. Would he even care? I thought he would be trying to kill them regardless. Would their relationship mean anything to him at that point?

At the very least I think he'd be somewhat surprised Shepard managed to open Miranda up, even if only a bit.

[ClanMacNab]

jtav wrote...

Oriana doesn't mean it in a romantic sense because you get the letter as FShep.

It can be interpreted both ways depending on the gender you're playing, and it was masterfully written. Plus, I can see a smart girl like Oriana implying these thoughts instead of coming right out and saying them. That's how it worked on me as a MShep.

Ed: Also, that note didn't imply Oriana knew anything about a budding relationship with Shepard, but for me it definitely implied that she wanted to encourage it with my MShep.

Modifié par ClanMacNab, 22 janvier 2012 - 08:42 .