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[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

MassEffect4Eva1710 wrote...

Hello. I thought I might start talking on this thread again so I'll share my opinion on her armour.

No matter how powerful you are in battle you can still get hurt. And I find it more believable that people always getting in battles would wear armour rather than catsuits. Don't get me wrong; I love Miri's catsuit but armour just seems more realistic and...well safer. And my Shepard is VERY protective over her!

You...make a point. I Love Miri. She is Very Powerful, but she can still get hurt, and I do NOT want to see her get hurt. Plus I Love this Screenshot which I took while playing:




She'll keep the Armor on in Battle. I just need to be told that the Armor won't Degrade her in any way.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 23 janvier 2012 - 07:43 .

[JeanLuc761]

kainee wrote...

I find this kind of armor absolutely not realistic (like most of the Mass Effect armors), even in a scifi universe. Can't imagine a soldier wearing this, better protection is useless if you can't move.
The catsuit is a better choice, even if it's not a real combat suit.

Can't say I agree there.  There's nothing about the design of her armor (that I can see anyway) that would appear to restrict mobility all that much, if at all.  And it has to be easier to run in boots than it is in heels.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

^ She is still Flexible in the Armor.

[kainee]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

kainee wrote...

I find this kind of armor absolutely not realistic (like most of the Mass Effect armors), even in a scifi universe. Can't imagine a soldier wearing this, better protection is useless if you can't move.
The catsuit is a better choice, even if it's not a real combat suit.

Can't say I agree there.  There's nothing about the design of her armor (that I can see anyway) that would appear to restrict mobility all that much, if at all.  And it has to be easier to run in boots than it is in heels.

For me it's very obvious.

I agree about the heels, but a bulky armor like this one makes this improvment useless.

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

^ She is still Flexible in the Armor.

Yeah, I'm sure she is in a video game that don't respect the laws of physics.

Modifié par kainee, 23 janvier 2012 - 07:47 .

[Swaggacide]

Just the fact that all of you love Miranda as much as I do makes me want to take you all down to the engine room

[JeanLuc761]

kainee wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

kainee wrote...

I find this kind of armor absolutely not realistic (like most of the Mass Effect armors), even in a scifi universe. Can't imagine a soldier wearing this, better protection is useless if you can't move.
The catsuit is a better choice, even if it's not a real combat suit.

Can't say I agree there.  There's nothing about the design of her armor (that I can see anyway) that would appear to restrict mobility all that much, if at all.  And it has to be easier to run in boots than it is in heels.

For me it's very obvious.

I agree about the heels, but a bulky armor like this one makes this improvment useless.

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

^ She is still Flexible in the Armor.

Yeah, I'm sure she is in a video game that don't respect the laws of physics.

How is it all that immobile?  She has thick cloth on all of her joints which provide protection while allowing mobility, and none of the armor is locked together, nor does it really have any points of intersection.  I mean yeah, she's not going to be doing yoga in the armor anytime soon, but normal movement should be perfectly fine.

[MassEffect4Eva1710]

Swaggacide wrote...

Just the fact that all of you love Miranda as much as I do makes me want to take you all down to the engine room

You're funny!  

Anyway...I always wondered how she ran around in heels! I mean I can barely walk in them without tripping over and yet she walks through Tuchanka with them! I guess she's just THAT awesome...

[Spanky Magoo]

Im feel im the only one that wishes Shepard could get lighter armor, atleast the light armor from me1. so it goes without saying I support the catsuit.

[Swaggacide]

2 questions.
What was Miranda doing during those 5 minutes before Shepard came down?
The second question being was Shepard wearing a condom because if not is pregnancy possible?

[kainee]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

kainee wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

kainee wrote...

I find this kind of armor absolutely not realistic (like most of the Mass Effect armors), even in a scifi universe. Can't imagine a soldier wearing this, better protection is useless if you can't move.
The catsuit is a better choice, even if it's not a real combat suit.

Can't say I agree there.  There's nothing about the design of her armor (that I can see anyway) that would appear to restrict mobility all that much, if at all.  And it has to be easier to run in boots than it is in heels.

For me it's very obvious.

I agree about the heels, but a bulky armor like this one makes this improvment useless.

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

^ She is still Flexible in the Armor.

Yeah, I'm sure she is in a video game that don't respect the laws of physics.

How is it all that immobile?  She has thick cloth on all of her joints which provide protection while allowing mobility, and none of the armor is locked together, nor does it really have any points of intersection.  I mean yeah, she's not going to be doing yoga in the armor anytime soon, but normal movement should be perfectly fine.

There are so many flaws on this armor I can't believe you can't see it.
Anyway, if you find this realistic, good for you.

Mass Effect armors are not the most unreallstic armors in scifi video games, so I won't complain too much. But it makes me sad seeing Miranda wearing this, plus I can't say I like the design.

Modifié par kainee, 23 janvier 2012 - 08:02 .

[sonofalich]

Swaggacide wrote...

2 questions.
What was Miranda doing during those 5 minutes before Shepard came down?
The second question being was Shepard wearing a condom because if not is pregnancy possible?

read the dossier for Miranda on the Shadow Broker base.

Modifié par sonofalich, 23 janvier 2012 - 08:01 .

[JeanLuc761]

Swaggacide wrote...

2 questions.
What was Miranda doing during those 5 minutes before Shepard came down?
The second question being was Shepard wearing a condom because if not is pregnancy possible?

I can safely say that I have never before contemplated these questions.  In all honesty, not sure I ever wanted to 

1) "Preparation," at least on a mental level.
2) Lair of the Shadow Broker answered this.

Modifié par JeanLuc761, 23 janvier 2012 - 08:02 .

[JeanLuc761]

kainee wrote...
There are so many flaws on this armor I can't believe you can't see it.
Anyway, if you find this realistic, good for you.

Mass Effect armors are not the most unreallstic armors in scifi video games, so I won't complain too much. But it makes me sad seeing Miranda wearing this.

You're not giving me an actual answer.  I'm saying I can't see the flaws and have given reasons for it, and you're basically just saying "No, you're wrong."  

[kainee]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

kainee wrote...
There are so many flaws on this armor I can't believe you can't see it.
Anyway, if you find this realistic, good for you.

Mass Effect armors are not the most unreallstic armors in scifi video games, so I won't complain too much. But it makes me sad seeing Miranda wearing this.

You're not giving me an actual answer.  I'm saying I can't see the flaws and have given reasons for it, and you're basically just saying "No, you're wrong."  

Non exaustive list :

The rigid part on her torso (from the neck to the abdomen).
The rigid part on her back. 
The rigid parts her hips and thighs.

Even the joints don't seem realistic for me.

[JeanLuc761]

kainee wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

kainee wrote...
There are so many flaws on this armor I can't believe you can't see it.
Anyway, if you find this realistic, good for you.

Mass Effect armors are not the most unreallstic armors in scifi video games, so I won't complain too much. But it makes me sad seeing Miranda wearing this.

You're not giving me an actual answer.  I'm saying I can't see the flaws and have given reasons for it, and you're basically just saying "No, you're wrong."  

Non exaustive list :

The rigid part on her torso (from the neck to the abdomen).
The rigid part on her back. 
The rigid parts her hips and thighs.

Even the joints don't seem realistic for me.

Much better.  As for the torso, the plating is multilayered on the front which leads me to believe that, were it not for ****ty game engine restrictions, the lower plates would slide behind the higher plates, allowing enough mobility to bend over.  As for her back, seems to be a fairly similar idea.  

As for her hips and thighs, I can see some restrictions there (Miranda isn't going to be doing a split in that armor), but sprinting and jumping don't seem to be hindered at all.

[Swaggacide]

I read the SB dossier. I just remembered that now. EPIC FAIL

[kainee]

Spanky Magoo wrote...

Im feel im the only one that wishes Shepard could get lighter armor, atleast the light armor from me1. so it goes without saying I support the catsuit.

No I wish that too. Unfortunately it seems the armors in ME3 are not going to be lighter.

Also, for me Miranda's combat style is more about mobility and quickness like Kasumi rather than proctection and endurance like Grunt.
Catsuit fits better this kind of combat style IMO.

Modifié par kainee, 23 janvier 2012 - 08:42 .

[Ieldra]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

For some reason I'm starting to feel Uneasy seeing Miri in the Armor in Battle now. I feel like I miss seeing her in her Loyalty Outfit in Battle.

I don't know. Miri is a Powerful Biotic with Powerful Mass Effect Fields. The Armor will only bring down that one of VERY Important Traits of Miri Character.

An alternate opinion is that her armor strengthens her character.  Much as I like the design of her Cerberus wear...I'm sorry, but I personally find it a little too sexed-up for me to take her completely seriously.  With the armor, I feel it makes her character design more...well, "mature" is the only word I can think of.  Plus the armor design is just badass in general, and I easily modified her visor to only block one eye, and only partially at that.  

Just my opinion, no need to go spreading it around.

LOL. I'll spread it around because I share it and that way I don't need to repeat. BTW, thanks again for your high-res version. Screenshots will take a while since I've started a new game and there aren't many good Miranda scenes between Freedom's Progress (where can't have the armor yet) and Horizon (which unlocks the part of the game with more Miranda scenes), but I've posted one from Zorya on one of the previous pages.

And I prefer the half-visor, too. Likely I'll never use the full one again.

[Swaggacide]

Leldra did u get my message?

[Ieldra]

@kainee:
Have you ever tried to move in clothing this close-fitting? Unless it's made from stretch fabric and very thin, it's at least as bad as armor, if not more so. And if it's made from stretch fabric, it can't protect, and as someone else has said, wearing less protection than normal clothing would give in battle makes no sense at all.

Anyway, it's not so much the "unrealistic as armor" part I'm complaining about, it's (1) the absolute disregard of the concept of dressing for the occasion expressed by the design, and (2) the cheap way in which the catsuit presents Miranda's sexuality. I say Enyala has a point.
Imagine a woman like Miranda. Would she run around in public wearing something like this? I'd say no. Even more to the point, would she run around in something like this on Omega? The catsuits, especially if worn everywhere, hurt Miranda's image as a competent operative and a classy woman. And the cheap thrill in the design of the white one - drawing attention to her sexual attributes in the blatant way usually found only with sex workers - is insulting. If Miranda was to wear something seductive, it would be something with style.

[wright1978]

More time i spend playing the game the more i like Miranda's black loyalty outfit. Especially with high-res textures.

[Swaggacide]

I love going back and doing Miris loyalty mission it's just so much fun

[Ieldra]

Swaggacide wrote...
Leldra did u get my message?

(1) My name starts with an "I", not an "L". "Ieldra" is Old English for "elder", and my use of it is inspired by the precursor species of the same name in the SF novel "Neverness" and the subsequent trilogy "A Requiem For ****** Sapiens" by David Zindell.

(2) I believe I should answer that in public, because it may be of general interest:

(a) As of LotSB, Miranda cannot have children.
( Im am not overly attracted by the prospect of marriage. My Cyrus Shepard is an anti-traditionalist radical, and so am I. I envision a future where Miranda and Shepard are together, and I want her to find a way to reverse her infertility, but I feel their relationship does not need to be sanctioned by anyone or anything, and I don't want any epilogue to tell me if Miranda will have children. Leave that to my imagination. Whether the game will give Miranda and Shepard a happy ending I do not know, but I believe it will.
© You'll find my thoughts about Miranda's presence in ME3 in these places:

(These links link to SPOILERS!!!)

*Miranda spoiler group topic Summary of our concerns about Miranda
*Miranda spoiler group topic Miranda spoilers - the (preliminary) verdict
*Miranda thread feedback post to Bioware about Miranda's presence in ME3 as evidenced by the leaked script
*General spoiler group, Miranda topic.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 23 janvier 2012 - 09:31 .

[Swaggacide]

I guess the marriage isn't that necessary I just want them to end up and stay together even when the war is over

[Ieldra]

Swaggacide wrote...
I guess the marriage isn't that necessary I just want them to end up and stay together even when the war is over

There are some concerns that the events at the end might adversely affect romances. Can't say more here, you'd need to go the general spoiler group. I don't believe so, though. Bioware has always said they want to give players a satisfying conclusion to the trilogy, and forced endings to romances aren't satisfying.