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[AgitatedLemon]

Swaggacide wrote...

im choosing Miranda no matter what

Hell yes.

[jtav]

I'm choosing her so long as she still manifests those traits I found interesting in the first place, especially her ambition.

[Swaggacide]

jtav wrote...

I'm choosing her so long as she still manifests those traits I found interesting in the first place, especially her ambition.

Will you still choose Miranda if she likes Justin Bieber?

[AgitatedLemon]

Swaggacide wrote...

jtav wrote...

I'm choosing her so long as she still manifests those traits I found interesting in the first place, especially her ambition.

Will you still choose Miranda if she likes Justin Bieber?

She likes classical music.

[Swaggacide]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Swaggacide wrote...

jtav wrote...

I'm choosing her so long as she still manifests those traits I found interesting in the first place, especially her ambition.

Will you still choose Miranda if she likes Justin Bieber?

She likes classical music.

Maybe she has Bieber Fever? That could explain the infertility

[ClanMacNab]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ClanMacNab wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Yeah, I'm better at writing comedic dialogues.

The unfortunate aspect of most romance dialogues is that the paragon usually gets a hand shake while the rogue gets thrown to the mat. Just once I'd like to see a writer reverse that perverse cliche.

Yeah.

I like the feeling that I'm being supportive and reassuring to Miranda, ala the paragon dialogues in the promise conversation and the "You give your father too much credit".

but I expect more than some nice words, at SOME point.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking for a free pass into her pants, but something. Just a hug would more than suffice.

I guess what I was trying to say with that rewrite was it would have made a good counterpoint to the renegade kiss scene before it. Of course the the renegade kiss scene should have been handled better by Shepard (still thinkiing about that one). But a passionate attack on the paragon by the heroine as a counterpoint would have been appropriate after that, in essence reversing the previous encounter, putting Shepard on his heels, and laying the ground work for a much more passionate engine room scene - not really changing that scene, but the previous events as I described them would have just made it much more passionate. The added benefit is that it reverses the stupid writers cliche in a blalnced sort of way and alters the arc a bit in a way that will encourage replay.

[AgitatedLemon]

ClanMacNab wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ClanMacNab wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Yeah, I'm better at writing comedic dialogues.

The unfortunate aspect of most romance dialogues is that the paragon usually gets a hand shake while the rogue gets thrown to the mat. Just once I'd like to see a writer reverse that perverse cliche.

Yeah.

I like the feeling that I'm being supportive and reassuring to Miranda, ala the paragon dialogues in the promise conversation and the "You give your father too much credit".

but I expect more than some nice words, at SOME point.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking for a free pass into her pants, but something. Just a hug would more than suffice.

I guess what I was trying to say with that rewrite was it would have made a good counterpoint to the renegade kiss scene before it. Of course the the renegade kiss scene should have been handled better by Shepard (still thinkiing about that one). But a passionate attack on the paragon by the heroine as a counterpoint would have been appropriate after that, in essence reversing the previous encounter, putting Shepard on his heels, and laying the ground work for a much more passionate engine room scene - not really changing that scene, but the previous events as I described them would have just made it much more passionate. The added benefit is that it reverses the stupid writers cliche in a blalnced sort of way and alters the arc a bit in a way that will encourage replay.

@bold- After the renegade kiss? Or for paragon?

And the contrived (And if you think about it, sexist) cliches are getting old too.

[Swaggacide]

I was totally kidding about the JB thing.
Anyways wanted to know if the Miranda/Shepard romance is totally lame (i really hope its not) but if it is would that ruin ME3 for you? would you be able to get over it?

[AgitatedLemon]

Swaggacide wrote...

I was totally kidding about the JB thing.
Anyways wanted to know if the Miranda/Shepard romance is totally lame (i really hope its not) but if it is would that ruin ME3 for you? would you be able to get over it?

The romance isn't lame at all. Didn't I already tell you something about it?

I don't think it would ruin ME3 for me, but it would certainly knock the enjoyment down by a few pegs, considering Miranda will likely be my only romance.

[jtav]

ME3 no. It wouldn't even ruin Mirabda. I'm not primarily interested in her as a LI.

[ClanMacNab]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ClanMacNab wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ClanMacNab wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Yeah, I'm better at writing comedic dialogues.

The unfortunate aspect of most romance dialogues is that the paragon usually gets a hand shake while the rogue gets thrown to the mat. Just once I'd like to see a writer reverse that perverse cliche.

Yeah.

I like the feeling that I'm being supportive and reassuring to Miranda, ala the paragon dialogues in the promise conversation and the "You give your father too much credit".

but I expect more than some nice words, at SOME point.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking for a free pass into her pants, but something. Just a hug would more than suffice.

I guess what I was trying to say with that rewrite was it would have made a good counterpoint to the renegade kiss scene before it. Of course the the renegade kiss scene should have been handled better by Shepard (still thinkiing about that one). But a passionate attack on the paragon by the heroine as a counterpoint would have been appropriate after that, in essence reversing the previous encounter, putting Shepard on his heels, and laying the ground work for a much more passionate engine room scene - not really changing that scene, but the previous events as I described them would have just made it much more passionate. The added benefit is that it reverses the stupid writers cliche in a blalnced sort of way and alters the arc a bit in a way that will encourage replay.

@bold- After the renegade kiss? Or for paragon?

And the contrived (And if you think about it, sexist) cliches are getting old too.

After the (rewritten) renegade kiss scene. Miranda nails him on the smackers for choosing the paragon option (gotta keep the gamer on his toes!)

blalnced = balanced  Guess I shouldn't have had that second martini...

[AgitatedLemon]

Any guesses as to what the ending to Miranda's arc in ME3 is?

[ClanMacNab]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Any guesses as to what the ending to Miranda's arc in ME3 is?

Even with the leaked material I haven't been able to avoid looking at, I haven't got a clue.

Although, I have a nasty feeling I'm going to be very discontented...

Modifié par ClanMacNab, 24 janvier 2012 - 01:13 .

[AgitatedLemon]

ClanMacNab wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Any guesses as to what the ending to Miranda's arc in ME3 is?

Even with the leaked material I haven't been able to avoid looking at, I haven't got a clue.

Although, I have a nasty feeling I'm going to be very discontented...

I ask because it wasn't in the leak :|

It hadn't been written, IIRC.

That picture is very grainy.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 24 janvier 2012 - 01:13 .

[ClanMacNab]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ClanMacNab wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Any guesses as to what the ending to Miranda's arc in ME3 is?

Even with the leaked material I haven't been able to avoid looking at, I haven't got a clue.

Although, I have a nasty feeling I'm going to be very discontented...

I ask because it wasn't in the leak :|

It hadn't been written, IIRC.

That picture is very grainy.

It's written. It's just locked up in high security vault...and for good reason.

_______________________________

I haven't had more difficult critiques since I worked as a professional photographer. At least the picture made it to the page.

Edit: Guess I'll have to sacrifice frame rate for quality for a while.

Modifié par ClanMacNab, 24 janvier 2012 - 01:22 .

[AgitatedLemon]

ClanMacNab wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ClanMacNab wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ClanMacNab wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Yeah, I'm better at writing comedic dialogues.

The unfortunate aspect of most romance dialogues is that the paragon usually gets a hand shake while the rogue gets thrown to the mat. Just once I'd like to see a writer reverse that perverse cliche.

Yeah.

I like the feeling that I'm being supportive and reassuring to Miranda, ala the paragon dialogues in the promise conversation and the "You give your father too much credit".

but I expect more than some nice words, at SOME point.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking for a free pass into her pants, but something. Just a hug would more than suffice.

I guess what I was trying to say with that rewrite was it would have made a good counterpoint to the renegade kiss scene before it. Of course the the renegade kiss scene should have been handled better by Shepard (still thinkiing about that one). But a passionate attack on the paragon by the heroine as a counterpoint would have been appropriate after that, in essence reversing the previous encounter, putting Shepard on his heels, and laying the ground work for a much more passionate engine room scene - not really changing that scene, but the previous events as I described them would have just made it much more passionate. The added benefit is that it reverses the stupid writers cliche in a blalnced sort of way and alters the arc a bit in a way that will encourage replay.

@bold- After the renegade kiss? Or for paragon?

And the contrived (And if you think about it, sexist) cliches are getting old too.

After the (rewritten) renegade kiss scene. Miranda nails him on the smackers for choosing the paragon option (gotta keep the gamer on his toes!)

blalnced = balanced  Guess I shouldn't have had that second martini...

It sounds like Miranda is preparing to kick the ever living crap out of paragon Shepard.

Like, pow, smack to the face. I guess he tried to feel up her wine glasses at some point.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 24 janvier 2012 - 01:51 .

[AgitatedLemon]

"Do I want the M&M's or the Snickers? 

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 24 janvier 2012 - 02:14 .

[JosephDucreux]

Miranda: Hey Shepard, Royal London Symphonic is going to be playing ALL of Nielsen's works tonight at the Thessian Concert Hall, including my favorite...

Shepard *grins*: ...So you want that to be our date? Sure, that's our date then.

Miranda *smiles sultrily*: Oh you know me so well...by the way, Oriana will be joining us. Love you! *kisses Shepard before leaving his cabin*

Shepard: Dammit...so much for action afterward. Oh well, an orchestra can't be that bad right?

*Eight hours later*

Shepard *thinks to himself as he dozes off*: OH GOD WHY

[Dr. Doctor]

AgitatedLemon wrote...
I'd change that too. I mean, I'd change the "genetic mutt" bit. I know it's taken as teasing, but to me it sounds... insulting. Like, wow, Shepard is a dick.

I always took that line as Shepard talking about himself. To me the line is Shepard going "Maybe your right, the Illusive Man put me in charge of this mission instead of you and I'm just a regular guy.  Doesn't that bother you?"  It's similar to the Renegade option for the Krogan scout on Mordin's LM. Miranda's beating herself up over not being able to take credit for her successes and Shepard goes and agrees with her. Miranda comes back and says that she does damn good work.

That's why I prefer the Renegade romance option. Shepard's not preaching about how Miranda is human like everyone else, he's admitting that yes she's amazing and that she should be proud of that.

Modifié par Dr. Doctor, 24 janvier 2012 - 02:10 .

[jtav]

Hear, hear, Doctor! She's exceptional and she should be proud of that.

[ClanMacNab]

AgitatedLemon wrote...


...It sounds like Miranda is preparing to kick the ever living crap out of paragon Shepard.

Like, pow, smack to the face. I guess he tried to feel up her wine glasses at some point.

Yeah, serious pow, of the romantic kind. She takes back the initiative and lays the ground work for a major upswing in the romantic story arc - something that was really missing in the original romance. In my opinion BW missed a lot of huge chances to add wide diversity to this romance that would have branched it in more directions and created more curiosity from the player.

[AgitatedLemon]

JosephDucreux wrote...

Miranda: Hey Shepard, Royal London Symphonic is going to be playing ALL of Nielsen's works tonight at the Thessian Concert Hall, including my favorite...

Shepard *grins*: ...So you want that to be our date? Sure, that's our date then.

Miranda *smiles sultrily*: Oh you know me so well...by the way, Oriana will be joining us. Love you! *kisses Shepard before leaving his cabin*

Shepard: Dammit...so much for action afterward. Oh well, an orchestra can't be that bad right?

*Eight hours later*

Shepard: 

 Fixed and added on-

On their way back to the car:

S: So how did you ladies enjoy the show?

O: Oh, it was absolutely fascinating!

M: What was your favorite part, Shepard?

S *Has an "Oh Sh*t!" look on his face*: My favorite part....?

M: You heard me. *Faking curiosity* I mean, you didn't fall asleep, did you?

S: ...  I loved the adaggio movement of the fifth !

M: Shepard, you don't even know what an adaggio movement is.

S: ... Damn it.

M: How about when we get back, I perk you up a bit? Maybe work the sleep off?

O: Miri, you're gross:pinched:.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 24 janvier 2012 - 02:28 .

[ClanMacNab]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...
I'd change that too. I mean, I'd change the "genetic mutt" bit. I know it's taken as teasing, but to me it sounds... insulting. Like, wow, Shepard is a dick.

I always took that line as Shepard talking about himself. To me the line is Shepard going "Maybe your right, the Illusive Man put me in charge of this mission instead of you and I'm just a regular guy.  Doesn't that bother you?"  It's similar to the Renegade option for the Krogan scout on Mordin's LM. Miranda's beating herself up over not being able to take credit for her successes and Shepard goes and agrees with her. Miranda comes back and says that she does damn good work.

That's why I prefer the Renegade romance option. Shepard's not preaching about how Miranda is human like everyone else, he's admitting that yes she's amazing and that she should be proud of that.

That's a very good way to look at that, Doc. I feel a lot better for choosing that route to her heart (actually I did already).There is much to be said in praise of the writing for most of the dialogue because of the broad way it can be intrepreted.

Modifié par ClanMacNab, 24 janvier 2012 - 02:26 .

[AgitatedLemon]

ClanMacNab wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...
I'd change that too. I mean, I'd change the "genetic mutt" bit. I know it's taken as teasing, but to me it sounds... insulting. Like, wow, Shepard is a dick.

I always took that line as Shepard talking about himself. To me the line is Shepard going "Maybe your right, the Illusive Man put me in charge of this mission instead of you and I'm just a regular guy.  Doesn't that bother you?"  It's similar to the Renegade option for the Krogan scout on Mordin's LM. Miranda's beating herself up over not being able to take credit for her successes and Shepard goes and agrees with her. Miranda comes back and says that she does damn good work.

That's why I prefer the Renegade romance option. Shepard's not preaching about how Miranda is human like everyone else, he's admitting that yes she's amazing and that she should be proud of that.

That's a very good way to look at that. I feel a lot better for choosing that route to her heart (actually I did already).

I guess, if you want to look at it that way. I still prefer the paragon route though.

Good thing I have 2 Shepards, I can take both paths.

[JosephDucreux]

Miri sees whut you did thar.