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[AgitatedLemon]

I could see Miranda butting heads, if not being hostile to, Kasumi.

More or less just because they appear to me as polar opposites, in regards to personality. Miranda is, as we know, cold and closed off, while Kasumi is a joker and incredibly laidback.

[Ieldra]

CrutchCricket wrote...
Edit: Just saw your post Ieldra. Surprised. You don't like the krogan? Why?

That surprises you? Watch the LotSB videos. Talk with the shaman on Tuchanka. Learn about their history. Listen to Wreav and the Weyloc Speaker. I find it almost incomprehensible how anyone can like them. If it weren't for individuals like Wrex or the rare civilized krogan, I'd say go all-out with the genophage and even as it is, at any time they're not needed as shock troops against something like the Reapers, the galaxy is better off without them.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Why doesn't Kasumi need Armor? She is even more fragile. <_<

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 24 janvier 2012 - 04:52 .

[AgitatedLemon]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Why doesn't Kasumi need Armor? She is even more fragile. <_<

Kasumi can just go Assassin's Creed on people with her cloak.

[CrutchCricket]

Ieldra2 wrote...

That surprises you? Watch the LotSB videos. Talk with the shaman on Tuchanka. Learn about their history. Listen to Wreav and the Weyloc Speaker. I find it almost incomprehensible how anyone can like them. If it weren't for individuals like Wrex or the rare civilized krogan, I'd say go all-out with the genophage and even as it is, at any time they're not needed as shock troops against something like the Reapers, the galaxy is better off without them.

I've never killed Wrex so Wreav is only a theoretical for me. I suspect I also don't know know which videos you mean. But nothing I know of the krogan brings on such intense dislike.  They're Proud Warrior Race Guys, what's the problem? That business about destroying their civilization once it begins to stagnate? There's some merit in that. I'm sorry but you might have to be more specific.

As for Kasumi I disagree that she and Miranda would butt heads. The difference in personalities isn't enough to cause conflict and Kasumi doesn't strike me as the type to entertain direct confrontation (unless it's very personal). In fact I believe Kasumi has a very deep sense of personal loyalty which would be compatible with some of Miranda's beliefs.

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 24 janvier 2012 - 05:01 .

[AgitatedLemon]

Ieldra2 wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...
Edit: Just saw your post Ieldra. Surprised. You don't like the krogan? Why?

That surprises you? Watch the LotSB videos. Talk with the shaman on Tuchanka. Learn about their history. Listen to Wreav and the Weyloc Speaker. I find it almost incomprehensible how anyone can like them. If it weren't for individuals like Wrex or the rare civilized krogan, I'd say go all-out with the genophage and even as it is, at any time they're not needed as shock troops against something like the Reapers, the galaxy is better off without them.

@bolded part- To steal a quote from Mordin- "Every species has outliers. Geniuses. Idiots". Wreav and the Weyrloc speaker (And the Weyrloc in general) are monumentally idiots. I'd also toss Gatatog Uvenk up there as well. The krogan do have their fair share of geniuses though, Fortack, Okeer, Wrex (And possibly Grunt. He's a fast learner, he's just a newborn. He displays more intelligence than the average krogan, along with the heightened bloodlust)

There are a number of non-hostile and non-idiotic krogan as well, if the fatherly-type krogan talking about his son on Tuchanka is to be believed, or the Urdnot scout.

Not all of them are "RAWR kill kill kill rape and pillage kill kill kill"

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 24 janvier 2012 - 05:02 .

[ClanMacNab]

Ieldra2 wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...
Edit: Just saw your post Ieldra. Surprised. You don't like the krogan? Why?

That surprises you? Watch the LotSB videos. Talk with the shaman on Tuchanka. Learn about their history. Listen to Wreav and the Weyloc Speaker. I find it almost incomprehensible how anyone can like them. If it weren't for individuals like Wrex or the rare civilized krogan, I'd say go all-out with the genophage and even as it is, at any time they're not needed as shock troops against something like the Reapers, the galaxy is better off without them.

What can I say? I like the warrior class, though Tuchanka's is admittedly a little harsh.

[JeanLuc761]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Why doesn't Kasumi need Armor? She is even more fragile. <_<

She IS wearing armor   Her suit is flexible, but she's got armor plating all down her legs and the thick padding looks like it can take a hell of a beating.  

[AgitatedLemon]

ClanMacNab wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...
Edit: Just saw your post Ieldra. Surprised. You don't like the krogan? Why?

That surprises you? Watch the LotSB videos. Talk with the shaman on Tuchanka. Learn about their history. Listen to Wreav and the Weyloc Speaker. I find it almost incomprehensible how anyone can like them. If it weren't for individuals like Wrex or the rare civilized krogan, I'd say go all-out with the genophage and even as it is, at any time they're not needed as shock troops against something like the Reapers, the galaxy is better off without them.

What can I say? I like the warrior class, though Tuchanka's is admittedly a little harsh.

Nuclear winter has that effect on people.

Have you played any of the Fallout games?

edit: Actually, I believe part of the krogan culture/history was inspired by the Fallout games.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 24 janvier 2012 - 05:06 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Why doesn't Kasumi need Armor? She is even more fragile. <_<

She IS wearing armor   Her suit is flexible, but she's got armor plating all down her legs and the thick padding looks like it can take a hell of a beating.  

Miri is Stronger, even without Armor<3.

<_<

[JeanLuc761]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
Miri is Stronger, even without Armor<3.

<_<

I...okay?  

[AgitatedLemon]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Why doesn't Kasumi need Armor? She is even more fragile. <_<

She IS wearing armor   Her suit is flexible, but she's got armor plating all down her legs and the thick padding looks like it can take a hell of a beating.  

Miri is Stronger, even without Armor<3.

Funnily enough, she likely IS stronger. And is a biotic.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
Miri is Stronger, even without Armor<3.

<_<

I...okay?  

"i...okay?" what?

I don't have time for a sudden "strange" reaction from a recipient.
<_<

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 24 janvier 2012 - 05:12 .

[JeanLuc761]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
"i...okay?" what?

I don't have time for a sudden "strange" reaction from a recipient.
<_<

A "recipient?"  I think you lost me.  Regardless, my reaction was basically just "Okay...where did that one come from?" 

Nobody here was saying Miranda is weak.

[CrutchCricket]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
Miri is Stronger, even without Armor<3.

<_<

I...okay?  

Yeah that was necessary. MEFan did you see my post to you a couple of pages back?

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I wonder if Grunt think she's weak....

It's too bad you can't ask him what he thinks about Miri.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 24 janvier 2012 - 05:17 .

[JeanLuc761]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

I wonder if Grunt think she's weak....

As far as physical strength goes...maybe.  Of course, Grunt thinks that way about everyone because he's essentially a thousand pounds of pure muscle and fighting spirit.   

But I would imagine Miranda's mental strength and conviction would impress him.

[AgitatedLemon]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

I wonder if Grunt think she's weak....

It's too bad you can't ask him what he thinks about Miri.

Who? Miranda? I highly doubt he think's she's weak, just small.

Then again, he thinks everyone on the Normandy is small.

[Ieldra]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

That surprises you? Watch the LotSB videos. Talk with the shaman on Tuchanka. Learn about their history. Listen to Wreav and the Weyloc Speaker. I find it almost incomprehensible how anyone can like them. If it weren't for individuals like Wrex or the rare civilized krogan, I'd say go all-out with the genophage and even as it is, at any time they're not needed as shock troops against something like the Reapers, the galaxy is better off without them.

I've never killed Wrex so Wreav is only a theoretical for me. I suspect I also don't know know which videos you mean. But nothing I know of the krogan brings on such intense dislike.  They're Proud Warrior Race Guys, what's the problem?

Exactly that's the problem. I have an intense dislike for such cultures. The krogan come across as a species of bullies, and ever since the invention of firearms, the best answer to a bully has been a bullet.

@AgitatedLemon:
The problem that the character types I dislike appear to be the norm, while those I find bearable the exception.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 24 janvier 2012 - 05:20 .

[AgitatedLemon]

Ieldra2 wrote....

@AgitatedLemon:
The problem that the character types I dislike appear to be the norm, while those I find bearable the exception.

Fair enough. I was just offering some potential insight that not every krogan is a brutal killer, though most definitely are.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

What did Samara meant to say when you asked for her thoughts about Miri?

[Ieldra]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
What did Samara meant to say when you asked for her thoughts about Miri?

She does say, as I quoted on the previous page:

"MIranda is undoubtedly a hard woman. She carries many burdens and refuses to share them with others. As it should be."

[AgitatedLemon]

When does she say this? I must have talked to Samara a hundred or more times before and after her LM. I probably just accidentally skipped over it.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Yeah but what does she mean by "hard woman?"

I wasn't here to look at the previous page.

[CrutchCricket]

I don't agree they come across as bullies. If you don't like them though, that's your business. I agree with you about Samara though. Her Code would keep them from being friends but they each respect where the other stands.

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 24 janvier 2012 - 05:32 .