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[MsSihaKatieKrios]

@ExcitedCitrusFruit

Oh yes Katie Shepard would do ALL that you mentioned without a hint of shame. And so much more.

i.e. Grabbing Miri's ass in public while making all sorts of noises

[MegaBadExample]

After receiving Ashley/Kaidan’s letter after the Horizon mission. Well, I consider that cheating if Shepard moved on to say… Miranda. The letter said a lot. And it’s apparent that Shepard meant a whole lot to the ME1 love interest, enough for them to risk their career for the relationship. But at the end of the day, it all depends if *your* Shepard truly loved them to start off with. Mines did, and therefore he decided to wait until they actually have the chance to sit down and talk, and try to sort things out.

And I can't imagine your ME2 love interest being angry or hurt at Shepard for having an old lover. Unless it's Jack, because she's not all there, you know?

[AgitatedLemon]

MsSihaKatieKrios wrote...

@ExcitedCitrusFruit

Oh yes Katie Shepard would do ALL that you mentioned without a hint of shame. And so much more.

i.e. Grabbing Miri's ass in public while making all sorts of noises

... I'll admit, I'd do it once or twice. After all, her luscious backside is just asking for a playful spanking.

And explain these "noises" you speak of.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 26 janvier 2012 - 08:43 .

[AgitatedLemon]

MegaBadExample wrote...

After receiving Ashley/Kaidan’s letter after the Horizon mission. Well, I consider that cheating if Shepard moved on to say… Miranda. The letter said a lot. And it’s apparent that Shepard meant a whole lot to the ME1 love interest, enough for them to risk their career for the relationship. But at the end of the day, it all depends if *your* Shepard truly loved them to start off with. Mines did, and therefore he decided to wait until they actually have the chance to sit down and talk, and try to sort things out.

And I can't imagine your ME2 love interest being angry or hurt at Shepard for having an old lover. Unless it's Jack, because she's not all there, you know?

Shepard died.

Unless you're saying the ME1 romances are weird necrophiliacs telling their friends that they're dating zombies.

[Swaggacide]

I wonder how much crap Ashley will give me for leaving her for Miranda

[AgitatedLemon]

Swaggacide wrote...

I wonder how much crap Ashley will give me for leaving her for Miranda

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[MegaBadExample]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

MegaBadExample wrote...

After receiving Ashley/Kaidan’s letter after the Horizon mission. Well, I consider that cheating if Shepard moved on to say… Miranda. The letter said a lot. And it’s apparent that Shepard meant a whole lot to the ME1 love interest, enough for them to risk their career for the relationship. But at the end of the day, it all depends if *your* Shepard truly loved them to start off with. Mines did, and therefore he decided to wait until they actually have the chance to sit down and talk, and try to sort things out.

And I can't imagine your ME2 love interest being angry or hurt at Shepard for having an old lover. Unless it's Jack, because she's not all there, you know?

Shepard died.

Unless you're saying the ME1 romances are weird necrophiliacs telling their friends that they're dating zombies.

The letter opened closed doors. The relationship isn't over, just yet. Although you'll get the chance to shut down the relationship for good in ME3, if that's what you want. I would really love to get into that with you, but the VS and Horizon really having nothing at all to do with the Miranda thread. Wouldn't want to steal the spotlight.

And Ashley probably will give you sh*t for cheating on her in ME3, but it's only because she still cares. Miranda on the other hand... I know a lot of guys who romanced Miranda in ME2 and are looking to get back with Ash. I wonder how Miranda will take it? Probably professionally of course.

[AgitatedLemon]

Via PM then.

[G3rman]

MegaBadExample wrote...

And Ashley probably will give you sh*t for cheating on her in ME3, but it's only because she still cares. Miranda on the other hand... I know a lot of guys who romanced Miranda in ME2 and are looking to get back with Ash. I wonder how Miranda will take it? Probably professionally of course.

Hurt but take it in stride definitely, I don't see her showing much emotion in front of the player after he makes that remark.

[Ieldra]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

enayasoul wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Idea: Let's just say that (Hypothetically) Miranda's sterility is dealt with in ME3 and her and Shepard can have a child. Without reaching for an ass-pull, what are some feasible ways it could happen?

My theory: Mordin. He's Mr. Genophage, sterility should be something he does on his tuesday mornings.

This theory I can accept!  I would also accept Miranda doing some research into her problem on a scientific level, she is intelligent.  I would have loved to see Miranda and Mordin working side by side coming up with medical data/reasons/solutions on what's wrong and how they come up with a solution or understanding together.  I think it would be cool to explore.  Miranda even expresses as much... she envy's Mordins work with STG...

:happy:

Even if it isn't cured, at least hinting to a potential cure would be good food for head canon.

That's what I've always wanted. Not exactly a cure, but an explicit acknowledgement that it isn't impossible to cure or circumvent.

Shepard: Miranda, you know that the Shadow Broker had a dossier about you....
Miranda: Yes. I know, i know what's in it and I know you've read it. What about it? Any problems with my history of one-night stands?
Shepard: No. It's more about your......condition.
Miranda (sighs): Look, Shepard, I'm not made of glass. If something about that bothers you, you can come out and say it.
Shepard: Sorry, I was trying to be careful. Thought it was a sensitive issue.
Miranda: Do you really think I couldn't find a way around this if I wanted? I brought you back from the dead remember?
Shepard: Actually, that's what I wanted to ask about. In the dossier, it sounded like its irreversible. And that makes no sense.
Miranda: Not my finest moment I know. But I'll explain.
Miranda: Back when I was with my father, there were times when all I wanted was to be like every other girl. Just to make the pressure go away. Sometimes, when the stress and the consequences of failure are greatest, that flares up up again.
Miranda: I don't know what got into me two years ago, but I got hung up on the idea of having children the natural way. Like...well...everyone else, or so I thought. Until an article I read made me realize how stupid that is. Did you know most women on Earth have their children with some kind of assistance by medical technology? Not because it's needed, but because it's easier?
Shepard: So there's a way around your infertility? You could have children?
Miranda: Yes. I just don't know if I want to. Right now we have bigger things to worry about.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 26 janvier 2012 - 09:04 .

[AgitatedLemon]

Ieldra2 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

enayasoul wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Idea: Let's just say that (Hypothetically) Miranda's sterility is dealt with in ME3 and her and Shepard can have a child. Without reaching for an ass-pull, what are some feasible ways it could happen?

My theory: Mordin. He's Mr. Genophage, sterility should be something he does on his tuesday mornings.

This theory I can accept!  I would also accept Miranda doing some research into her problem on a scientific level, she is intelligent.  I would have loved to see Miranda and Mordin working side by side coming up with medical data/reasons/solutions on what's wrong and how they come up with a solution or understanding together.  I think it would be cool to explore.  Miranda even expresses as much... she envy's Mordins work with STG...

:happy:

Even if it isn't cured, at least hinting to a potential cure would be good food for head canon.

That's what I've always wanted. Not exactly a cure, but an explicit acknowledgement that it isn't impossible to cure or circumvent.

Shepard: Miranda, you know that the Shadow Broker had a dossier about you....
Miranda: Yes. I know, i know what's in it and I know you've read it. What about it? Any problems with my history of one-night stands?
Shepard: No. It's more about your......condition.
Miranda (sighs): Look, Shepard, I'm not made of glass. If something about that bothers you, you can come out and say it.
Shepard: Sorry, I was trying to be careful. Thought it was a sensitive issue.
Miranda: Do you really think I couldn't find a way around this if I wanted? I brought you back from the dead remember?
Shepard: Actually, that's what I wanted to ask about. In the dossier, it sounded like its irreversible. And that makes no sense.
Miranda: Not my finest moment I know. But I'll explain.
Miranda: Back when I was with my father, there were times when all I wanted was to be like every other girl. Just to make the pressure go away. Sometimes, when the stress and the consequences of failure are greatest, that flares up up again.
Miranda: I don't know what got into me two years ago, but I got hung up on the idea of having children the natural way. Like...well...everyone else, or so I thought. Until an article I read made me realize how stupid that is. Did you know most women on Earth have their children with some kind of assistance by medical technology? Not because it's needed, but because it's easier?
Shepard: So there's a way around your infertility? You could have children?
Miranda: Yes. I just don't know if I want to. Right now we have bigger things to worry about.

I'd word the dialogue a bit differently, but I agree with the message.

[Ieldra]

MegaBadExample wrote...
After receiving Ashley/Kaidan’s letter after the Horizon mission. Well, I consider that cheating if Shepard moved on to say… Miranda. The letter said a lot. And it’s apparent that Shepard meant a whole lot to the ME1 love interest, enough for them to risk their career for the relationship. But at the end of the day, it all depends if *your* Shepard truly loved them to start off with. Mines did, and therefore he decided to wait until they actually have the chance to sit down and talk, and try to sort things out.

And I can't imagine your ME2 love interest being angry or hurt at Shepard for having an old lover. Unless it's Jack, because she's not all there, you know?

I agree that it depends on your Shepard how you treat this. I played the Horizon scene again yesterday, and if you choose the middle options "You sound annoyed. Is something bothering you?" and "I didn't have a chance [to contact you]. I was in a kind of coma for two years while Cerberus rebuilt me", Shepard is definitely not a jerk or something. On Ashley's side, though, things go down the drain as soon as Cerberus is mentioned. I think you can plausibly treat that as a break-up. Reading the letter later, I thought "Sorry, Ash. Too little, too late. Perhaps we should've never started this".

As for how MIranda would react if you broke up with her to go back to Ash: She'd turn cold. Back to Lazarus Station Miranda.

@AgitatedLemon:
Feel free to use my version as a template for yours. I'm curious what you'd change.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 26 janvier 2012 - 09:23 .

[AgitatedLemon]

Nothing against Ashley, but I honestly want the opportunity to tell her off in ME3 for accusing me of being a traitor and saying that I was working for the enemy.

[ThomGau]

I think it is most likely possible Lemon .

Moreover, it seems you can roleplay as a Shepard not pleased to be back with the Alliance .

BTW Ieldra, your dialogue about her infertility is great, I wish we had that kind of scene in ME3 .

Modifié par ThomGau, 26 janvier 2012 - 09:31 .

[Ieldra]

MassEffect4Eva1710 wrote...
Ok I just thought of another topic. Feel free to contribute. What's your favourite thing about Miranda? Can be anything you want. But I swear, if anyone says "DAT ASS!" I'll scream.

Anyway, my favourite thing about Miri is that she is independent. I mean no offence to the other LI's but to me they all seem a bit dependent on Shepard. I mean, c'mon, Ashley calls him a god! I like how my Shepard is on the same playing ground as Miranda. It's a nice change of pace from normal stereotypes...

Absolutely. If you look into our Miranda wishlist in the OP, it's #1 that her independence is retained and even enhanced, and as opposed to almost all other wishes, this one has never been questioned by anyone.

It's one reason why I'm not overly bothered by Miranda not being on the team. It's 100% ok that she does her own thing apart from Shepard and their stories only intersect here and there. What exactly she does and why, that's a different issue and I do have a serious problems with what the existing evidence suggests. But everything will be answered in six weeks. 

[AgitatedLemon]

ThomGau wrote...

I think it is most likely possible Lemon .

Moreover, it seems you can roleplay as a Shepard not pleased to be back with the Alliance .

BTW Ieldra, your dialogue about her infertility is great, I wish we had that kind of scene in ME3 .

Good.

Somewhat off topic, but does anyone know if there is any interaction between your ME1 LI and Miranda when you first meet her in ME3?

[AgitatedLemon]

Fun idea: Assuming Shepard and Miranda are together in ME2 and ME3, how would Miranda take receiving word of Shepard's death?

I honestly do not know how she would handle it. I have a theory, but part of my brain is nagging at me, telling me "She probably wouldn't act that way".

edit: I should stop calling these things "Fun ideas". They're pretty grim.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 26 janvier 2012 - 09:49 .

[ThomGau]

Indeed that's not really fun Lemon
Tell us what's your theory on this, I'd like to know .

 I think if she would seem/try to remain self-composed in public, she doesn't show her burdens and grieves, she is a strong women . However, she would be devastated in private, maybe with Oriana .

Modifié par ThomGau, 26 janvier 2012 - 10:02 .

[AgitatedLemon]

ThomGau wrote...

Indeed that's not really fun Lemon
Tell us what's your theory on this, I'd like to know .

 I think if she would seem/try to remain self-composed in public, she doesn't show her burden and grieves, she is a strong women . However, she would be devastated in private, maybe with Oriana .

That's actually pretty close to what I had in mind, but I keep telling myself that Miranda probably wouldn't show that much emotion about it -- At least at face value, even to Oriana. She's torn up about it, and it will linger on her mind, but she isn't going to display it.

[ThomGau]

Perhaps will she would try to contain it even with her indeed, but well, Oriana is her sister, she can "let it go" in front of her if she needs to .

[ThomGau]

Perhaps she would try to contain it even with her indeed, but well, Oriana is her sister, she can "let it go" in front of her if she needs to .

Modifié par ThomGau, 26 janvier 2012 - 10:08 .

[MassEffect4Eva1710]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Fun idea: Assuming Shepard and Miranda are together in ME2 and ME3, how would Miranda take receiving word of Shepard's death?

I honestly do not know how she would handle it. I have a theory, but part of my brain is nagging at me, telling me "She probably wouldn't act that way".

I believe that she would be very cold towards anyone that tried to comfort her, saying that she doesn't need comfort. But I believe that when she's alone she might cry and mourn. Miranda is without a doubt a strong woman but even the strongest women cry when someone important to them dies.

[AgitatedLemon]

ThomGau wrote...

Perhaps will she would try to contain it even with her indeed, but well, Oriana is her sister, she can "let it go" in front of her if she needs to .

I dunno. I see it as a pride issue more than anything.

[Ieldra]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ThomGau wrote...

I think it is most likely possible Lemon .

Moreover, it seems you can roleplay as a Shepard not pleased to be back with the Alliance .

BTW Ieldra, your dialogue about her infertility is great, I wish we had that kind of scene in ME3 .

Good.

Somewhat off topic, but does anyone know if there is any interaction between your ME1 LI and Miranda when you first meet her in ME3?

We don't know since there isn't any banter or interjections in the leaked script. I think the script containing those wasn't leaked. But I can't imagine that if you bring Ashley to your first meeting with Miranda, there won't be any interaction.

But hmm....do I really *want* to bring Ashley to my first meeting with MIranda in ME3?

Modifié par Ieldra2, 26 janvier 2012 - 10:13 .

[AgitatedLemon]

Ieldra2 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ThomGau wrote...

I think it is most likely possible Lemon .

Moreover, it seems you can roleplay as a Shepard not pleased to be back with the Alliance .

BTW Ieldra, your dialogue about her infertility is great, I wish we had that kind of scene in ME3 .

Good.

Somewhat off topic, but does anyone know if there is any interaction between your ME1 LI and Miranda when you first meet her in ME3?

We don't know since there isn't any banter or interjections in the leaked script. I think the script containing those wasn't leaked. But I can't imagine that if you bring Ashley to your first meeting with Miranda, there won't be any interaction.

Oh, well that sucks. I guess it's just "wait and see", then.