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[ThomGau]

Agreed Lemon .

As Eva said, she would be cold and remain proud towards anyone .
However, Oriana is not anyone, she is her family . I think she would need her more than anybody else .

In fact I imagine Miranda telling her " It's Ok Ori ... ", trying to stay proud, then after a long moment of silence she would start to cry, maybe even sob her heart out .

Modifié par ThomGau, 26 janvier 2012 - 10:21 .

[AgitatedLemon]

ThomGau wrote...

Agreed Lemon .

As Eva said, she would be cold and remain proud towards anyone .
However, Oriana is not anyone, she is her family . I think she would need her more than anybody else .

In fact I imagine Miranda telling her " It's Ok Ori ... ", trying to stay proud, then after a long moment of silence she would start to cry, maybe even sob her heart out .

Maybe I'm just a terrible person, but I would like to see Miranda cry, at least, over something such as Shepard's death.

[ThomGau]

You monster !

I wouldn't want to see her sad at all .
Nonetheless, if such a thing occurs (like Shepard's death), yes Lemon, I'd like to see her cry as well.

[AgitatedLemon]

ThomGau wrote...

You monster !

I wouldn't want to see her sad at all .
Nonetheless, if such a thing occurs (like Shepard's death), yes Lemon, I'd like to see her cry as well.

I guess my obsession with the fic I'm writing about Miranda's death has turned me into a sadist.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 26 janvier 2012 - 10:44 .

[Swaggacide]

I would rather see Shepard and Miranda both live

[Swaggacide]

ThomGau,
From what Lemon told me, Ashley is extremely cruel towards Miranda

[Ieldra]

Swaggacide wrote...
From what Lemon told me, Ashley is extremely cruel towards Miranda

Not to her face. She says something disparaging about Miranda to Shepard. The question was about Miranda and Ashley interacting, of which there is no evidence.

And we should be careful with the spoilers.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 26 janvier 2012 - 11:06 .

[ThomGau]

Swaggacide wrote...

ThomGau,
From what Lemon told me, Ashley is extremely cruel towards Miranda

I remember that I quoted to you a few lines Ashley says towards Miranda .
She is cruel indeed but she says these lines to Shepard ( which makes it rather hypocritical imo ) .
We don't know  if she says anything to her in person yet .

Modifié par ThomGau, 26 janvier 2012 - 11:21 .

[Swaggacide]

I just after Horizon I'm so done with Ashley. I never plan on leaving Miranda anyway, but Horizon made almost hate Ashley

[Swaggacide]

Im bringing Ashley along when I meet Miranda just to make her jealous

[alxboss78]

@ieldra, something a bit off topic. What happened to the fic Degrees of inheritance? Did Evelyn kill it?
Do you know?

Modifié par alxboss78, 26 janvier 2012 - 11:21 .

[Ieldra]

alxboss78 wrote...
@ieldra, something a bit off topic. What happened to the fic Degrees of inheritance? Did Evelyn kill it?
Do you know?

The last chapter, which is extremely complicated, is still in the works. Circumstances have conspired to delay it significantly. At this point I'm not sure if Elyvern will manage to finish it, but she hasn't abandoned it (yet). It would be a shame to leave it unfinished just because of one chapter. 

[alxboss78]

Ieldra2 wrote...

alxboss78 wrote...
@ieldra, something a bit off topic. What happened to the fic Degrees of inheritance? Did Evelyn kill it?
Do you know?

The last chapter, which is extremely complicated, is still in the works. Circumstances have conspired to delay it significantly. At this point I'm not sure if Elyvern will manage to finish it, but she hasn't abandoned it (yet). It would be a shame to leave it unfinished just because of one chapter. 

A shame indeed, especially for one of the best and most mature fics around...

[ClanMacNab]

Ieldra2 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

SGC Baby Mac wrote...

Doing a second playthrough was wondering who I shoul# romance in ME1. Ofcourse I'm picking Miri in ME2

I'd not romance anyone in ME1. I hear you're rewarded for stayling loyal to your romance in ME3.

Not quite true. Evidence suggests that there is a small benefit to not having an ME2 romance. Not having an ME1 romance doesn't appear to make any difference with your ME2 LI. And why should it? It's in the past. That would be like being jealous of an ex.

For me the Liara romance was the most bittersweet and difficult one going forward after she risked so much just to find Shepard after the attack on the Normandy.

[ClanMacNab]

ThomGau wrote...

Indeed that's not really fun Lemon
Tell us what's your theory on this, I'd like to know .

 I think if she would seem/try to remain self-composed in public, she doesn't show her burdens and grieves, she is a strong women . However, she would be devastated in private, maybe with Oriana .

I agree. There was definitely something very special about their relationship as evidenced by the promise scene. His loss would have just as much a devastating effect on her as her death would have on Shepard. She would confide in soemone about it. Most likely Oriana, or maybe even a former LI, especially Liara in my mind. Miranda is tremendously strong but she's still human, and her humanity shines for those willing to look for it. Liara sees and admires it at the end of LotSB. That's why I can see the two of them talking about it, especially considering it would be the second time Liara has lost him.

[Ieldra]

Why is it that "humanity" always comes up when the likelihood of emotional breakdowns is discussed. Having none if somebody dies is just as human as having one.

[jtav]

Because we tend to equate "humanity" with our ability to feel and express emotion. There are a couple of things wrong with that, but I do think Miranda is very likely to cry in private should Shepard die on her. Profusely. After trying her darndest not to.

[ClanMacNab]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Why is it that "humanity" always comes up when the likelihood of emotional breakdowns is discussed. Having none if somebody dies is just as human as having one.

I made no mention of an emotional breakdown. I merely said she might talk about her loss if fate brought her in contact with someone with a mutual connection to Shepard. I don't see her seeking it out though, with the possible exception of her sister. I could see Liara and her talking about their mutual loss, and *maybe* even sharing a tear or two, if circumstances brought them together.

Modifié par ClanMacNab, 26 janvier 2012 - 02:19 .

[MsSihaKatieKrios]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

... I'll admit, I'd do it once or twice. After all, her luscious backside is just asking for a playful spanking.

And explain these "noises" you speak of.

Very perverted ones of utter satisfaction as I do a Lonely Island.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Because we tend to equate "humanity" with our ability to feel and express emotion. There are a couple of things wrong with that, but I do think Miranda is very likely to cry in private should Shepard die on her. Profusely. After trying her darndest not to.

I agree with this. As an observation.

I have an issue with the underlying assumption made by some people that this somehow desirable and makes her a better human.

[JosephDucreux]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Why is it that "humanity" always comes up when the likelihood of emotional breakdowns is discussed. Having none if somebody dies is just as human as having one.

That's just wrong. Firstly, human emotion is what separates us from machines. Secondly, it isn't a good thing when you can't feel your legs after a car accident right? Same principle applies here. If you feel no emotion, you're very likely a psychopath due to brain damage. Psychopaths are unable to experience emotions and emote like a normal person would.

[Ieldra]

JosephDucreux wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
Why is it that "humanity" always comes up when the likelihood of emotional breakdowns is discussed. Having none if somebody dies is just as human as having one.

That's just wrong. Firstly, human emotion is what separates us from machines. Secondly, it isn't a good thing when you can't feel your legs after a car accident right? Same principle applies here. If you feel no emotion, you're very likely a psychopath due to brain damage. Psychopaths are unable to experience emotions and emote like a normal person would.

I did not say it's just as human to feel nothing. I said it's just as human not to have an emotional breakdown.

[ClanMacNab]

Ieldra2 wrote...

JosephDucreux wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
Why is it that "humanity" always comes up when the likelihood of emotional breakdowns is discussed. Having none if somebody dies is just as human as having one.

That's just wrong. Firstly, human emotion is what separates us from machines. Secondly, it isn't a good thing when you can't feel your legs after a car accident right? Same principle applies here. If you feel no emotion, you're very likely a psychopath due to brain damage. Psychopaths are unable to experience emotions and emote like a normal person would.

I did not say it's just as human to feel nothing. I said it's just as human not to have an emotional breakdown.

The word ' humanity' means a lot more than just the emotional part of the human condition. A broader interpretation might be more helpful.

hu·man·i·ty   [hyoo-man-i-tee or, often, yoo-] race; 1. humankind. 2. the quality or condition of being human; human nature. 3. the quality of being humane; kindness; benevolence. 4. the humanities, a. the study of classical languages and classical literature. b. the Latin and Greek classics as a field of study. c. literature, philosophy, art, etc., as distinguished from the natural sciences. d. the study of literature, philosophy, art, etc.

Synonyms
sympathy, tenderness, goodwill.

Antonyms
inhumanity, unkindness.

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Ed: You can't just set these qualities aside when looking at Mirandas' character. She has already demonstrated she has them through her relationship with her sister.

Modifié par ClanMacNab, 26 janvier 2012 - 03:32 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

....<3:wub:

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 26 janvier 2012 - 03:14 .

[CrutchCricket]

Emotion can be controlled.

Miranda will control her emotions in public. I think even in private she'll have some measure of control. She would likely cry but I doubt she'll be rendered catatonic by grief.