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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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Swaggacide

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

Swaggacide wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Swaggacide wrote...

How cybernetic is Shepard?

Enough to have his body and mind somewhat controlled (as the Overlord DLC demonstrated).

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Aside from the facial scarring and the upgrades you can research, it isn't known.

But it's safe to bet he's a fair bit stronger than he used to be, and more durable.

And I wouldn't put it past Miranda to increase his... girth.

Aaaaaaaaaand that's my exit.


It was just a joke.


are u sure the overlord controlled him through his cybernetics? Maybe it was just really powerful


I hope you're making a joke, because otherwise that doesn't really make any sense otherwise.


No Archer said how powerful the VI was, maybe it took control

#30852
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Hey! Don't make Pyramids with the posts! D:

#30853
AgitatedLemon

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@Swag

Oh. No, I don't think it was controlling him.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

@Swag

Oh. No, I don't think it was controlling him.


Gears 3 tonight?

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Swaggacide wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

@Swag

Oh. No, I don't think it was controlling him.


Gears 3 tonight?


I will after this video.


And you should probably ask via PM, just so as to not ****** anyone off in the thread.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

Swaggacide wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

@Swag

Oh. No, I don't think it was controlling him.


Gears 3 tonight?


I will after this video.


And you should probably ask via PM, just so as to not ****** anyone off in the thread.


ok

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jtav wrote...

You want a discussion topic?

Miranda is a high-ranking Cerberus officer, answering only to TIM himself. The Alliance classes Cerberus as a terrorist organization, and the Council says that working with them is treason. If Miranda were to be arrested for whatever reason, will would be an appropriate punishment for her, if anything? And just how much responsibility does she have for Cerberus' more questionable actions?

One of the reasons I've been kicking around the idea of Miranda joining the Alliance after the war, even though I don't particularly like the idea, was that similar things happened after the end of WWII. German scientists have their party memberships expunged so that they could work for the Americans.


If there has to be a "redemption" scenario for Miranda then I like this option.

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i know this is ME unrelated but is there anyway i can change my forum name?

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Idea: (Riding off jtav's "arrested" topic earlier)Imagine you are Shepard for a second. If Miranda were to be tried in court for her past association with Cerberus, what would you say in her defence? Bringing up details such as you're Spectre-hood and saving the galaxy can be mentioned and emphasized as needed.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 27 janvier 2012 - 05:12 .


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Swaggacide wrote...

i know this is ME unrelated but is there anyway i can change my forum name?


I don't think you can.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

Swaggacide wrote...

i know this is ME unrelated but is there anyway i can change my forum name?


I don't think you can.


:( whatever thats lame.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

Idea: (Riding off jtav's "arrested" topic earlier)Imagine you are Shepard for a second. If Miranda were to be tried in court for her past association with Cerberus, what would you say in her defence? Bringing up details such as you're Spectre-hood and saving the galaxy can be mentioned and emphasized as needed.

I'd probably emphasize her role in the Lazarus Project, her resigning from Cerberus prior to the Reaper Invasion (therefore avoiding connection to their most heinous crimes) as well as her help against the Collectors and Reapers, to start.

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Td1984 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Idea: (Riding off jtav's "arrested" topic earlier)Imagine you are Shepard for a second. If Miranda were to be tried in court for her past association with Cerberus, what would you say in her defence? Bringing up details such as you're Spectre-hood and saving the galaxy can be mentioned and emphasized as needed.

I'd probably emphasize her role in the Lazarus Project, her resigning from Cerberus prior to the Reaper Invasion (therefore avoiding connection to their most heinous crimes) as well as her help against the Collectors and Reapers, to start.


I thought you were jtav there for a second :|

I would mention the same thing.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

Td1984 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Idea: (Riding off jtav's "arrested" topic earlier)Imagine you are Shepard for a second. If Miranda were to be tried in court for her past association with Cerberus, what would you say in her defence? Bringing up details such as you're Spectre-hood and saving the galaxy can be mentioned and emphasized as needed.

I'd probably emphasize her role in the Lazarus Project, her resigning from Cerberus prior to the Reaper Invasion (therefore avoiding connection to their most heinous crimes) as well as her help against the Collectors and Reapers, to start.


I thought you were jtav there for a second :|

I would mention the same thing.

I knew that confusion was going to happen when I changed it, lol. Problem was so many of us had the same Miranda avatar that it was getting kind of hard to tell who was who. 

#30865
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We all have different sig tags.

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Did you guys talk about the art book already? I read she wasn't in it.

Makes me kinda worried they didn't really do anything to improve her appearance...regardless of how much of the game she's in, I'd hope they made her look better.

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AgitatedLemon

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There wasn't anything inherently wrong with her look to begin with.

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Are you talking about the art book we get in the N7 CE?

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AgitatedLemon

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Swaggacide wrote...

Are you talking about the art book we get in the N7 CE?


The Barnes and Noble art book.

The CE artbook probably will have images of Miranda.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...
The way I see it, the thread is slowly dying, and it isn't because of inflating gush. It's just the lack of things to talk about, since everything has already been talked about.

Just to give you some perspective:

Within the next two weeks, jtav's and my presence on the Miranda support threads will go into its third year. We've pretty much seen it all. Times with 20 pages of gushing per day, 10 pages of passionate debate and times with nothing more than five posts of trolling per day, Everything not in the leak had been talked to death even before you joined, everything we read here we've read about a dozen times to a hundred times before and almost every opinion has been posted that many times as well. And we're still here because occasionally something interesting comes up. Sifting through pages of gushing to find the interesting stuff has been a chore two years ago, but there were enough people carrying it back then that nobody could be accused of spam. That has changed. We've grown sensitive to it, too. Just as people are getting sick of certain discussion topics, they are also getting sick of one-liner posts like "Miranda is my one and only *insert smily*" repeated ad infinitum. It adds nothing to this thread, it's really not more than spam. I'd rather have one page per day of posts I like to read (there have been worse times), interspersed with the occasional picture and "Miranda is awesome" post, instead of 10 pages of only the latter.

And now for a picture and a discussion topic:
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Question:
Is there a point in ME2 where you could imagine that your Shepard and Miranda got into a fight about something? About some decision you made, perhaps? I'd say giving Jack the data would count, but you can't avoid that, so it's not much of a debate, right?

   

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I'd say Zaeed's LM is a biggie. I tend to sacrifice the workers in order to catch Vido. I'd expect Miranda to be less than pleased with that decision. Possibly activating Legion as well.

Maybe not giving Veetor to Cerberus, but that's a bit early in the mission to fight, plus Cerberus does get his omni-tool.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

Question:
Is there a point in ME2 where you could imagine that your Shepard and Miranda got into a fight about something? About some decision you made, perhaps? I'd say giving Jack the data would count, but you can't avoid that, so it's not much of a debate, right?


Rewriting the geth.

I like to think Miranda would vouch for wiping the heretics out, but my Shepard voted to rewrite them. I could see them getting into a deep discussion about the possible ramifications of Shepard's actions.

Also, Ieldra, do I detect a bit of hostility in your post? In any case, I apologize for contributing to it. I guess it's just the energetic fanboying of a new thread regular.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 27 janvier 2012 - 07:52 .


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I rewrote the geth as well to help me fight the reapers

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Question:
Is there a point in ME2 where you could imagine that your Shepard and Miranda got into a fight about something? About some decision you made, perhaps? I'd say giving Jack the data would count, but you can't avoid that, so it's not much of a debate, right?


Rewriting the geth.

I like to think Miranda would vouch for wiping the heretics out, but my Shepard voted to rewrite them. I could see them getting into a deep discussion about the possible ramifications of Shepard's actions.

I agree she'd recommend destroying the Heretics indeed.

While I was thinking about this, I came across a contradictory element in Miranda's character: She's not one to put personal matters before the mission, don't you think? "The mission is too important to let personal feelings interfere". So I think she'd be a little concerned about how much time Shepard spends dealing with the personal problems of the team instead of getting on with the mission.

On the other hand, she's the one who always recommends that you continue with building up the team as long as any LMs are open. And of course her own LM is about something very personal as well. In part, this can be explained by Miranda being a planner. She likes to have every aspect under control. But if she's serious with "the mission is too important to let personal feelings interfere", shouldn't she expect that the team members put their personal problems on hold until the mission is over. Wouldn't she have the same expectation of herself? I'm having a little trouble bringing these aspects of her together.

Also, Ieldra, do I detect a bit of hostility in your post? In any case, I apologize for contributing to it. I guess it's just the energetic fanboying of a new thread regular.

Sorry if I came across that way. No hostility intended. Just wanted to explain why "this thread is dying" appears a strange statement to someone who has experienced times with five posts per day and can't but notice we're still here.  

Modifié par Ieldra2, 27 janvier 2012 - 08:04 .


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In regards to "Too important to let personal feelings interfere", I think she was referring to the feelings her and Shepard were developing for one another, since it's a romance dialogue.

I think she acknowledges that the team needs to be focused on the mission, so I think she'd be FOR completing the loyalty missions.

edit: I figured that, since the game is so close, speculation would be at it's highest, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Hence me being somewhat curious as to why the thread seems to be slooooooowing down. Hell, I can name a few people who posted like every other couple minutes, but now they don't even show up.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 27 janvier 2012 - 08:17 .