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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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Ieldra2 wrote...

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Unfortunately, it appears there are no temps as such.

It appears so. Were it otherwise, someone would've unearthed a power list until now.

WTF? Then how is she part of her own mission? Isn't it Shadow Broker style where she's in your squad for just the duration of that mission?

No way. That makes no sense. And there's no way you could get something like that from a leaked script.

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I don't know for sure, no. But the question is will the "temps" be actually on the squad in "their" missions or will they be companions you can't control, not even walking with you most of the time but only appearing at key points. The evidence makes me suspect the latter though of course I cannot be sure.

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Just made a new screenshot. Only the second one of this scene I know, and the first one with Miranda in the high-res AAP2 armor:

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Ieldra2 wrote...

I don't know for sure, no. But the question is will the "temps" be actually on the squad in "their" missions or will they be companions you can't control, not even walking with you most of the time but only appearing at key points. The evidence makes me suspect the latter though of course I cannot be sure.

That sounds incredibly stupid. I hope they're better than that.

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Burneye Is God wrote...

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

I know. But I got the hang of it before drawing Miri. I'm proud of that drawing. My Passion as a Mirimancer/Mirimaniac helped me VERY MUCH so.

Your art gets immensely better when you care about what you are creating.

And I googled Yvonne for reference, and wow, does that woman have a beautiful smile.  I really, really wish they'd done a mo-cap of it.  Her whole face just lights up.  It's awesome.


OH YEAH! And THIS is MY Drawing of Yvonne I drew with Pencil like more than a year ago:

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just wow. you are an incredible artist.




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Great job!!

(Unlikely) hypothetical scenario: if your Shepard had a kid(s) with Miri, what would you name him/her/them? I'd want a daughter and I'd name her Mithra. :wub:

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Ieldra, remember how you said people would be screaming their heads off if my "Ghost" scenario were in the game. It doesn't look so bad next to nobody but Team Dextro being on the team, ever. I think I'd prefer a few death retcons to this.

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parthian wrote...
(Unlikely) hypothetical scenario: if your Shepard had a kid(s) with Miri, what would you name him/her/them? I'd want a daughter and I'd name her Mithra. :wub:

Jim-Bob Jr.

lol could I be that cruel?

Serious answer later (maybe).

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parthian wrote...

...(Unlikely) hypothetical scenario: if your Shepard had a kid(s) with Miri, what would you name him/her/them? I'd want a daughter and I'd name her Mithra. :wub:


Sue.

Like CC said, (maybe) a serious answer later.

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jtav wrote...
Ieldra, remember how you said people would be screaming their heads off if my "Ghost" scenario were in the game. It doesn't look so bad next to nobody but Team Dextro being on the team, ever. I think I'd prefer a few death retcons to this.

Me, too, but I think "Miranda reconstructed as an AI" would be a huge hurdle for most people to accept. Even it meant we'd have her present almost all the time, I think most people would prefer what ME3 appears to give us. I find it extremely fascinating, but then, I'm always attracted by the unusual and tend to find the normal boring. The average player of the ME games does not appear to share that outlook. My impression is that most players are attracted by the mere appearance of the exotic, but god forbid that something *really* exotic happens. That could challenge people's preconceptions. Can't have that.
/sarcasm

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Ieldra2 wrote...

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Ieldra, remember how you said people would be screaming their heads off if my "Ghost" scenario were in the game. It doesn't look so bad next to nobody but Team Dextro being on the team, ever. I think I'd prefer a few death retcons to this.

Me, too, but I think "Miranda reconstructed as an AI" would be a huge hurdle for most people to accept. Even it meant we'd have her present almost all the time, I think most people would prefer what ME3 appears to give us. I find it extremely fascinating, but then, I'm always attracted by the unusual and tend to find the normal boring. The average player of the ME games does not appear to share that outlook. My impression is that most players are attracted by the mere appearance of the exotic, but god forbid that something *really* exotic happens. That could challenge people's preconceptions. Can't have that.
/sarcasm

I think it has to do with being able to identify with it, while it still being exotic. The really out there stuff you have to stretch your mind for. Some people may find that uncomfortable. Frankly I'd lean more in your camp.

Actually I wouldn't mind Miranda the AI (apart from the required removal of the human Miranda), not for itself but as an argument against people who claim Joker/EDI is demeaning to Joker as if it somehow implies he can't get a "real girl". I don't usually think about Joker or EDI but I was surprised to encounter that some time ago and a little annoyed that so many people took it for granted that such was the implication of that pairing. Off topic but anyway...

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I could point out worse implications of that pairing. Most of them have to do with Bioware insulting their fanbase's intelligence.

It's a bit like Miranda's real name being "Lawson". We understand the concept of a pseudonym, damn it!

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Meh. That's just the one that bothered me. Didn't get into it enough to encounter any others.

Is Miranda confirmed to be Lawson then? I get what you're saying in general but I don't think it's as big of issue here. It's not like her dad doesn't know where she is. That's why he withdrew support.

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Ieldra2... I really really am not going to read a spoiler. This is actually my most anticipated entertainment venue launch ever!!! But I just need to know if I can continue my relation with Miranda with being all Paragon from 1 & 2... That's it, no more is needed. I want the entire game to be a WOW moment... :)

And I think it will on my ridiculous setup... :)

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PC version of course as well.

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Is Miranda confirmed to be Lawson then? I get what you're saying in general but I don't think it's as big of issue here. It's not like her dad doesn't know where she is. That's why he withdrew support.

And Oriana is either so intelligent that she managed to discover Miranda's last name and thus her own in a matter of hours or Miranda actually introduced herself as Lawson thus letting Oriana know who her real father is thus placing her in danger.
Or, hey, I wouldn't put it past Bioware to just have Oriana call herself Lawson without ever adressing this issue.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
Ieldra, remember how you said people would be screaming their heads off if my "Ghost" scenario were in the game. It doesn't look so bad next to nobody but Team Dextro being on the team, ever. I think I'd prefer a few death retcons to this.

Me, too, but I think "Miranda reconstructed as an AI" would be a huge hurdle for most people to accept. Even it meant we'd have her present almost all the time, I think most people would prefer what ME3 appears to give us. I find it extremely fascinating, but then, I'm always attracted by the unusual and tend to find the normal boring. The average player of the ME games does not appear to share that outlook. My impression is that most players are attracted by the mere appearance of the exotic, but god forbid that something *really* exotic happens. That could challenge people's preconceptions. Can't have that.
/sarcasm



I can easily wrap my mind around any of these four concepts:

A: Miranda as an AI as portrayed by jtav, with her and Shepard exploring each other well beyond their physical relationship and unencumbered from the physical aspect of it, but aching from the loss of it .

B: Shepard holding on to Miranda through a relationship with her genetically identical but younger sister; a concept that would lay bare complex emotions, the similarities, and the differences of the two women due to their different life experiences. (Go ahead, call that creepy if you want, but be prepared to be called narrow-minded if you say it)

C: A Shepard desperately seeking to find a way to 'resurrect' the Lazurus project in an effort to give Miranda the gift of life back just the way that she did for him.

D: A combination of all of the above tied into a nice neat package with a bow wrapped around it...

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I sure hope ME3 has a BETTER Ending than what Chuck had. I want to see a Good Ending with Miri, who is Also played by Yvonne, just like Sarah in Chuck.

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MisterJB wrote...
And Oriana is either so intelligent that she managed to discover Miranda's last name and thus her own in a matter of hours or Miranda actually introduced herself as Lawson thus letting Oriana know who her real father is thus placing her in danger.
Or, hey, I wouldn't put it past Bioware to just have Oriana call herself Lawson without even adressing this issue.

Meh it's not like "Lawson" is an uncommon name. I expect if their name was Smith we wouldn't be having this conversation.
That aside I think Oriana knew enough about the state of things. After all if some strangers with guns came up to your house and said "we need to move you, he's found you" you wouldn't just calmly comply unless you knew enough about who "he" was.

At first glance, I agree it does seem rather derp. Kind of like hiding Luke by not changing his last name and putting him on Tatooine with his father's only known relatives.

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No Chuck spoilers please, have yet to see the finale.

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Leldra2... I really really am not going to read a spoiler. This is actually my most anticipated entertainment venue launch ever!!! But I just need to know if I can continue my relation with Miranda with being all Paragon from 1 & 2... That's it, no more is needed. I want the entire game to be a WOW moment... :)

I have no idea if being a full Paragon will prevent you from continuing your Miranda romance. I think that a full Paragon would not fit Miranda. Either he wouldn't be attracted by her in the first place, or she wouldn't respect him. It reeks too much of sticking to an ideology without thinking for yourself (a full Renegade is just as bad for different reasons). But I doubt Bioware sees things  the same way. I don't think you need to worry.

BTW: My name starts with an "I", not an "L".

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Is Miranda confirmed to be Lawson then? I get what you're saying in general but I don't think it's as big of issue here. It's not like her dad doesn't know where she is. That's why he withdrew support.

Yeah, she is. Dumb. Miranda is (a) a member of a clandestine organization (B) the Alliance claims is a terrorist organization, and © she's on the run from her ultra-rich father who'd stop at nothing to get Oriana and her back under his control - and she doesn't use a cover name?

Incredibly stupid. I feel insulted by Bioware.

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CrutchCricket wrote...
Meh it's not like "Lawson" is an uncommon name. I expect if their name was Smith we wouldn't be having this conversation.

I wonder how many richer than God Mr.Lawsons there are.

That aside I think Oriana knew enough about the state of things. After all if some strangers with guns came up to your house and said "we need to move you, he's found you" you wouldn't just calmly comply unless you knew enough about who "he" was.

Miranda says that Cerberus has come up with a "positive reason" to move the family. I doubt they ever realized that they were hiding from someone.

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No Chuck spoilers please, have yet to see the finale.


This, please.

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^ Then watch it already.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

I don't know for sure, no. But the question is will the "temps" be actually on the squad in "their" missions or will they be companions you can't control, not even walking with you most of the time but only appearing at key points. The evidence makes me suspect the latter though of course I cannot be sure.


It will be interesting to see. I'd assumed for a long time they would put the same effort into them as they did Liara in LOTSB. Well they don't that will join my list of gripes.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

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Is Miranda confirmed to be Lawson then? I get what you're saying in general but I don't think it's as big of issue here. It's not like her dad doesn't know where she is. That's why he withdrew support.

Yeah, she is. Dumb. Miranda is (a) a member of a clandestine organization (B) the Alliance claims is a terrorist organization, and © she's on the run from her ultra-rich father who'd stop at nothing to get Oriana and her back under his control - and she doesn't use a cover name?

Incredibly stupid. I feel insulted by Bioware.

We don't know the extent of her past operations. If all she's done is stuff like Lazarus, she's only worked with other Cerberus people in secluded cells. Not as big a deal if her co-workers know her name. If she has done undercover work I imagine she'd used another name other than Miranda. Sidenote: might be fun thinking up aliases Miranda might've used.

Her father knows she's with Cerberus. He obviously hasn't gotten her. He has however withdrawn support. Clearly Cerberus wasn't giving her up. As for Oriana if Lawson could've found her by keeping tabs on Miranda he wouldn't have needed Niket. Clearly that avenue was blocked.