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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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Totally Not Swaggacide

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@MisterJB
You make a great point

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Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

@MisterJB
You make a great point

Why he just needs to use oriana.

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Okay, so both the Excited Citrus Fruit and Swaggacide got verboten? While Quole Buu didn't?

BSN mods, I am disappoint. Do your jobs, yo.

Anyways, Miranda would more likely than not overplan the first date with Shepard, and he'll try his damndest to get her to be spontaneous. We'll have to see how that goes.

Modifié par JosephDucreux, 30 janvier 2012 - 05:49 .


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oops.

Modifié par shepard1038, 30 janvier 2012 - 07:14 .


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Sorry if this has already been covered, but for you Chuck fans out there...just got done watching the series finale again, then came across this...
http://m.ign.com/articles/1217435

SPOILER (if you haven't seen it)
Apparently the writers intended the final scene to mean they were on the way back to being in love. Whether the kiss worked or not they don't care, the important thing is in their mind the two are a couple again. Maybe just me but I thought nice to know that.

[resume Miranda discussion]

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JosephDucreux wrote...

Okay, so both the Excited Citrus Fruit and Swaggacide got verboten? While Quole Buu didn't?

BSN mods, I am disappoint. Do your jobs, yo.

Anyways, Miranda would more likely than not overplan the first date with Shepard, and he'll try his damndest to get her to be spontaneous. We'll have to see how that goes.

Who is Quole Buu.Image IPB

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shepard1038 wrote...

JosephDucreux wrote...

Okay, so both the Excited Citrus Fruit and Swaggacide got verboten? While Quole Buu didn't?

BSN mods, I am disappoint. Do your jobs, yo.

Anyways, Miranda would more likely than not overplan the first date with Shepard, and he'll try his damndest to get her to be spontaneous. We'll have to see how that goes.

Who is Quole Buu.Image IPB


Kid Buu a.k.a Quole.

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JosephDucreux wrote...
Anyways, Miranda would more likely than not overplan the first date with Shepard, and he'll try his damndest to get her to be spontaneous. We'll have to see how that goes.

Haha, I can see how that'll go:

"Shepard, if you tell me to 'relax and be spontaneous' one more time, you'll get a very spontaneous slap in the face."

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enayasoul wrote...
Anyways, hmm... do you see Miranda as a history buff?   Say into Earth's history?  How humanity has evolved from past societies?  Like what humans did right and wrong?

Perhaps not exactly a buff, but I think she knows a lot. She's had a very good education, and she's also the type who absorbs and integrates information just by walking past it. 

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JeanLuc, ignore the obsessives. There are some sane Miranda fans left, promise.

What does everyone think about the idea of "Frost" as Miranda's code name? I'm aware of the Chuck connection, but I figure I'm entitled to a subtle reference every now and again.


The arc with Timothy Dalton and Linda Hamilton was what I consider to be the high point of the series. As for codenames Frost would work. I've also considered Prospero it seems fitting simply for the fact that Miranda often pulls off assignments that others deem impossible, and I personally like the Shakespearean reference.

I like the Shakespearean reference too, but it creates a connection to her father. Here's a piece of introspection by 16-year-old Miranda from my fanfic "Promethean Legacy". She's about to leave her father and makes a last visit to her penthouse at the top of the skyscraper she's been living in:

Sometimes she'd wondered if this life would turn out to be a dream, if this 'cloud-capped tower' she was living in would some day reveal itself to be an illusion and dissolve into thin air like the towers in Shakespeare's play. Her father would never relinquish his powers, that was for sure, and unlike the original Miranda, she'd grab them from him if she could. Her namesake had been naïve and idealistic, and for all her courage she'd fought with the means her culture would allow her. She'd not make that mistake; she couldn't afford to with her father as her enemy. Strange, however, that the classics and the even older mythology therein could echo the present so well, with her having powers and abilities which would seem magical to those who didn't know better.


"Frost", on the other hand, reminds me of Miranda Frost in "Die Another Day". Didn't know there was a Chuck reference in that as well.

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
What will become of the Lazarus Cell in ME3 Since Miri no longer works for Cerberus in my ME Story?

The Lazarus cell consisted of the people working on Lazarus station - who are already dead - and the Cerberus crew of the Normandy. Miranda will have left the Normandy before Shepard went to Earth for his trial, and most of them will have, too, since Cerberus is regarded as terrorist and they wouldn't want to be caught. Some may now work for Alliance, some may be fugitives, some may continue to work for Cerberus in other capacities. We'll meet some of them again if they're alive (I hope we'll see Ken and Gabby again), but since they were even more disposable than the team, none of them will be important. 

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I think Miranda really likes Illium and probably has an apartment there.

Indeed. She says it's "a cultural marvel". And she has several contacts there (Lanteia: "Do you want to bring in any of your other Illium contacts?").

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Ieldra2 wrote...
 Miranda will have left the Normandy before Shepard went to Earth for his trial


This might be just me but speaking of that, I wish we could have a "Goodbye scene" between Miranda (or your designated LI) and Shepard before she leaves the Normandy.
We won't see that unfortunately since there's probably going to be a temporal ellipsis between ME2 and ME3 . Still, I think it would have been a touching scene.


As for Illium, yes Miranda likes that kind of "cultural marvel". In fact I could see her and Shepard having a pied-à-terre in that kind of place (rather refined and advanced).
Nonetheless, if I were Shepard, I would definitely not choose Tutchanka for her :lol:

Modifié par ThomGau, 30 janvier 2012 - 10:40 .


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Miranda is too classy for anything less than Dark Star.

Modifié par JosephDucreux, 30 janvier 2012 - 12:20 .


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MisterJB wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

A. Lemon wrote...

How do you people think the Illusive Man handled Miranda's resignation? I mean, what do you think he did after Miranda cut him off from talking with Shepard on the CB? On that, how do you think his opinion of Miranda changed, if at all?

This doesn't seem too far off topic.

 

You honestly I doubt he was shocked and if he was he got over it very quickly.... though I doubt her actions would not come  without  some consquences.  

I think the Ilusive Man would hunt her down, for that.


No point in hunting her down when her can force her to come to him.

Miranda: Consider this my resignation.


TIM: Generic Hot Brunette number# 672, my cellphone, please.
doo dee doo
TIM: Hello, Mr.Henry Lawson. This is The Illusive Man. I have a proposition that I believe will interest you...


 


And this is how it should exactly play out... MassEffect has  knee capped itself trying  not be cliche when it should have ran with the  cliche and not missed a beat.

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Who says it won't play out like that?

It's rather the alternative scenario - where Miranda doesn't resign - that's likely to get shortchanged.

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Regarding possible code names I tend to agree the mythology angle tends to be overstressed. There's no reason to avoid going outside its bounds. I didn't have anything to contribute to this before but I have an idea I find rather fitting: Adler, as in Irene Adler of Sherlock Holmes fame.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

Regarding possible code names I tend to agree the mythology angle tends to be overstressed. There's no reason to avoid going outside its bounds. I didn't have anything to contribute to this before but I have an idea I find rather fitting: Adler, as in Irene Adler of Sherlock Holmes fame.

 

Well Excuse I will take my  OCD about keeping things  in the vein of the theme that they were created and go in the corner now.. 


:P

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@CrutchCricket:
I like using the existing mythology connection for making codenames (so keep it up nitefyre), but I'm not stuck up on it. "Adler" is fitting for that connection, but I'm not sure if you know it means "eagle" in German. "Irene Adler" actually appears to be a German name. At least, nobody here would notice a woman named that being unusual.

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It's the name of one of Sherlock Holmes' adversaries, who impressed him so much that he allowed her to get away with her crimes.

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jtav wrote...
It's the name of one of Sherlock Holmes' adversaries, who impressed him so much that he allowed her to get away with her crimes.

I know that. It's just that the name *also* evokes other assocations.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

@CrutchCricket:
I like using the existing mythology connection for making codenames (so keep it up nitefyre), but I'm not stuck up on it. "Adler" is fitting for that connection, but I'm not sure if you know it means "eagle" in German. "Irene Adler" actually appears to be a German name. At least, nobody here would notice a woman named that being unusual.

I actually didn't know "adler" meant eagle. Thanks! Couple of things though:
Regarding the underlined isn't the point of code names/aliases to be inconspicuous? It's a treat for the readers if they get the Holmes reference but in-universe the name shouldn't even raise a brow.
Regarding mythology, why is it so hard-set? The only mythological name associated with Miranda is Cerberus and it iself does not define her. I know the mechs are myth-themed as well but they're not related to Miranda (unless it turns out Lawson CO manufactures them and even that I don't find compelling enough to restrict me to mythology alone.

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*hangs head sheepishly*

Right now, though, I'm wondering why I had Miranda come up with such a stupid plan when there's a much more obvious way of getting them to meet that's also thematically appropriate.

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jtav wrote...
Right now, though, I'm wondering why I had Miranda come up with such a stupid plan when there's a much more obvious way of getting them to meet that's also thematically appropriate.

What is it to be now? Or do you want to avoid spoiling us? Personally, I'm usually spoiling for spoilers.

Anyway, all is well if you spotted the "stupidity" (if it was really that) early enough to avoid using it.

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PM'd you. The solution is an ME3 spoiler.