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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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jtav wrote...
The content of those defaults would be pure speculation on my part.


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CrutchCricket wrote...

Wrex is dead in ME2 by default if you don't import. So there is precedent.


and the council... and kate bowman, and fist, and ranah, and shiala.... Almost every character that can die in ME1 has a default death in ME2.

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^ That's how it was for me before I finally Imported. Now that I look back, ME2 lacks in a few parts without importing (NO ROMANCE IN ME1!!!!).

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
^ That's how it was for me before I finally Imported. Now that I look back, ME2 lacks in a few parts without importing (NO ROMANCE IN ME1!!!!).

Why would that matter to you? Aren't you fond of telling us you never romance anyone but Miranda?

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It matters to me because unlike "some" people, I'm not having that cheating nonsense in ME3. I just can't see why some people find it amusing.

When playing through Korlus I brought jack with Miri and I instead of Mordin. Miri said some interesting things. Some of them were replacing Mordin's lines.

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CrutchCricket wrote...
Funny I prevent her shooting Niket precisely because that's emotional overload. In any case this argument seems overcompensating to me. I get the professional desire but Oriana and Shepard (if romancing) are supposed to be the exceptions, the gaps in the icy armor if you will. The problem as I understand it isn't too much emotion on those fronts but rather not enough exhibition of the professional. Trying to modify the former isn't fixing the latter. It might tip the net amount if you want to look at it like a ratio but that's a cheap victory (if that) and not worth the price.

For me it would be worth the price. If Miranda's motivation for her actions is never clear, I can put my own interpretation in, if it's told it's only about Oriana and never about the big picture I'm stuck with that.

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
It matters to me because unlike "some" people, I'm not having that cheating nonsense in ME3. I just can't see why some people find i amusing.

Ah....are you telling me that the default setting for ME2 is "romanced Ashley or Kaidan"? Never played a default game, so I wouldn't know.

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The default is single, but with the o/s VS alive.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
It matters to me because unlike "some" people, I'm not having that cheating nonsense in ME3. I just can't see why some people find i amusing.

Ah....are you telling me that the default setting for ME2 is "romanced Ashley or Kaidan"? Never played a default game, so I wouldn't know.


Nah the default ME2 has no Romance carry over. TRUST ME. I would no. When I first played ME2 I couldn't import because I had no ME1 file. 

I just got carried away again sorry. >_>

So since I imported, Kaidan is there and not Ashley. Sorry, but Ashley got on my nerves. Plus Kaidan was a better squadmate, that's why I used him and Garrus thoughout the ENTIRE game, seriously, all the way to defeating Saren. The three of us even had matching Armor.:lol:

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jtav wrote...
The default is single, but with the o/s VS alive.

Which means you get a more reliable single setup with the default. It's so hard to avoid being ninja 'manced by Ashley. 

@101:
I like the matching armor, too. But I usually choose my squad in ME1 by combat abilities. Since my main Shepards are both Engineers, Ashley and Liara were on it.

Also I like Ashley. Cyrus Shepard has proven he's not above a little meaningless affair in-between. At least he was that way before he met Miranda. He'll deal with the consequences as they come.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 01 février 2012 - 06:23 .


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Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
The default is single, but with the o/s VS alive.

Which means you get a more reliable single setup with the default. It's so hard to avoid being ninja 'manced by Ashley. 


It wasn't for me. I only spoke to her ONCE, and that was after Eden Prime. I also picked the middle options. I avoided all possible Male Romance in ME1. I was very careful when talking to Liara.

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I prefer Virmire. That may be because I prefer Kaidan anyway. Though I wouldn't be terribly concerned about romancing someone in ME1 if you intend to stay with Miranda.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
The default is single, but with the o/s VS alive.

Which means you get a more reliable single setup with the default. It's so hard to avoid being ninja 'manced by Ashley. 

It's not THAT hard actually, if you know how to nuke the romance exactly. If you tell her to get in line when she comments on how many aliens are there on board, it nukes any romance possibility forever AFAIK.

And despite playing GaySheps all the time, I got ninjamanced only once, by Liara, and only because one of the lines to turn her down (the Renegade one) is literally bugged.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 01 février 2012 - 06:25 .


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When playing ME1, I was always concerned about accidentally saying the wrong things.

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Now that I think about it... if there were NO Side Missions in ME1, not one, ME1 would have been very short to the point where you can complete it in several hours.

I think the only fun parts of the side missions were actually killing things, running over enemies with the Mako, and hunting Thresher Maws.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 01 février 2012 - 06:30 .


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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
Now that I think about it... if there were NO Side Missions in ME1, not one, ME1 would have been very short to the point where you can complete it in several hours.

ME2 is the same, especially if you play with Zaeed and Kasumi, since then you don't need to recruit Samara, Thane or Tali. 45 minutes for every recruitment mission, Freedom's Progress, Horizon, the CS mission and Reaper IFF, plus an hour or so for the SM = 7 hours. You'll lose at least four people on the SM though.

In fact, even a completionist playthrough of ME2 with all missions/assignments done, all resources collected, all conversation options explored, no conversations or transfer sequences skipped, including all DLC, took me only 26 hours playing on Casual (ME1: 22 hours). Note that as opposed to ME1, the timer doesn't stop in conversations, and neither if you open up the main menu.

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IsaacShep wrote...
It's not THAT hard actually, if you know how to nuke the romance exactly.


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You meant literally, right?

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IsaacShep wrote...
 If you tell her to get in line when she comments on how many aliens are there on board, it nukes any romance possibility forever AFAIK.

The problem is that Ashley has very good conversations that allow you to roleplay many aspects of your Shepard. You can establish his political views, wheter he is religious or not, etc.
I don't like having to sacrifice those opportunities just to avoid the romance so, most of the time, I just roleplay my Shepard as awfully oblivious to Ashley's advances.
She goes "So, are you still interested in me? Bagagge and all?"
And my Shepard says "You're interested in me?Image IPB It's hard to tell."

Modifié par MisterJB, 01 février 2012 - 06:49 .


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Would you guys prefer Shepard to say "I love you" to Miranda during the game or before the final battle?

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And also would say "I love you" first? Your Shepard or Miranda?

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"I love you" has become trite. I'd prefer to avoid it on either side.

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Ummmm ok?

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Ieldra2 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
Now that I think about it... if there were NO Side Missions in ME1, not one, ME1 would have been very short to the point where you can complete it in several hours.

ME2 is the same, especially if you play with Zaeed and Kasumi, since then you don't need to recruit Samara, Thane or Tali. 45 minutes for every recruitment mission, Freedom's Progress, Horizon, the CS mission and Reaper IFF, plus an hour or so for the SM = 7 hours. You'll lose at least four people on the SM though.

In fact, even a completionist playthrough of ME2 with all missions/assignments done, all resources collected, all conversation options explored, no conversations or transfer sequences skipped, including all DLC, took me only 26 hours playing on Casual (ME1: 22 hours). Note that as opposed to ME1, the timer doesn't stop in conversations, and neither if you open up the main menu.

*snip*


I don't want to rush too much on ME2. This Playthrough will be the Last Playthrough before ME3, and I want to capture and cherish every moment, Especially with Miri, before it is all done after Arrival.

I'm definitely not doing this on Insanity. Veteran is my Comfort Zone. I had trouble enjoying the story on Inasnity. After Horizon I asked myself, 'Whoa! What just happened??!" I'm starting over on Veteran so that I can enjoy this time before ME3. I almost forgot what happened becuase of the brutal and relentless combat along with constant fatalities.:?

On Veteran, ME2 is a great experience, it's not Too Easy, not Too Hard, it is just right.

I may start ME3 on Veteran. I'm not sure how higher the Difficulty for ME3 is compared to ME2.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 01 février 2012 - 08:32 .


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Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

And also would say "I love you" first? Your Shepard or Miranda?


Option should be there for Shep, alongside other options, of course. Better to let the player decide, though.

Modifié par flemm, 01 février 2012 - 08:35 .