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[flemm]

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
 Having insanely high expectations before the game is released wont help

I would say that is the least of our problems at this point

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

MisterJB wrote...

Didn't they? Why are you so sure?

Because I'm still here. I'm dedicated to Miri whether BioWare likes it or not.

[wright1978]

jtav wrote...

I have largely given up on ME3 satisfying me regarding Miranda, yes. I've put my faith in things being more than they appeared and it didn't work so well.

Well i'm still at the stage of hoping there's something more satisfying missing. I've got no need to rush misery, it'll arrive in its own sweet time if it is coming.

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

I suggest you guys check this out it's a pretty cool ME3 OXM article
http://www.oxm.co.uk...-to-try/?page=1

[MisterJB]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

Didn't they? Why are you so sure?

Because I'm still here. I'm dedicated to Miri whether BioWare likes it or not.

And? What does that have to do with the question I asked?

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

MisterJB wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

Didn't they? Why are you so sure?

Because I'm still here. I'm dedicated to Miri whether BioWare likes it or not.

And? What does that have to do with the question I asked?

Don't know, just saying. I'm am Mirimancers/Mirimaniacs, SO ARE, and BioWare knows this. 

[CrutchCricket]

MisterJB wrote...

Don't get me wrong. I think Yvonne Strahovski did an amazing job bringing Miranda life to in ME2 and, should she be replaced, it would take me quite a few playthrough before I adapted to the new actress.

However, like jtav already explained, it is a possiblity that keeping Yvonne as the VO negativelly affected Miranda's role. And, if I have to choose between having what Miranda says be voiced by Yvonne or Miranda simply having more to say, I know what my choice is.

NO.

No, it did not negatively affect her role. Proof= every other Hollywood star that only got a cameo in ME2.

And no, if Strahovski hadn't been back I would not be interested in seeing Miranda in ME3. At all. I would still be interested in her character. I would still want her to do great things and come out intact. But I would take a plain text scroll saying "...and meanwhile Miranda killed TIM and took over Cerberus. The End" over a recast. Mordin's recast is bad enough.

[flemm]

CrutchCricket wrote...
No, it did not negatively affect her role. Proof= every other Hollywood star that only got a cameo in ME2.

That's actually not proof of anything.

I have no reason to believe that Miranda's role was negatively affected by this. But I don't know one way or another, and neither do you.

[shepard1038]

Changing the topic;
Do you think Miranda's personality overshadowe's Shepard's?

[CrutchCricket]

flemm wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...
No, it did not negatively affect her role. Proof= every other Hollywood star that only got a cameo in ME2.

That's actually not proof of anything.

I have no reason to believe that Miranda's role was negatively affected by this. But I don't know one way or another, and neither do you.

I imagine her pay rate would be comparable to Keith David's. And Anderson's role was tiny in ME2. Same with Carrie-Ann Moss, Lance Henriksen... might be missing a few.

[CrutchCricket]

shepard1038 wrote...

Changing the topic;
Do you think Miranda's personality overshadowe's Shepard's?

Not necessarily. Depends how you play Shepard. He's supposed to have some innate leadership qualities that make everyone follow him. So it shouldn't. Of course you can play him like a wuss in certain situations and reverse that to some degree.

[flemm]

CrutchCricket wrote...
I imagine her pay rate would be comparable to Keith David's. And Anderson's role was tiny in ME2. Same with Carrie-Ann Moss, Lance Henriksen... might be missing a few.

Well, look, even assuming the pay rate is similar (which is already something we do not know), actors get paid less for smaller roles, as that is less work and less time invested. So, given that there is a budget that needs to cover all the voice acting for the game, it stands to reason that an expensive VA might end up with a smaller role due to budgetary constraints.

That doesn't mean that this actually happened. But it is certainly within the realm of possibility.

Modifié par flemm, 02 février 2012 - 12:44 .

[CrutchCricket]

flemm wrote...
Well, look, even assuming the pay rate is similar (which is already something we do not know), actors get paid less for smaller roles, as that is less work and less time invested. So, given that there is a budget that needs to cover all the voice acting for the game, it stands to reason that an expensive VA might end up with a smaller role due to budgetary constraints.

That doesn't mean that this actually happened. But it is certainly within the realm of possibility.

Paid less but not at a lower rate. I see the distinction though. Still since they got Freddie Prinze Jr for Vega it does seem that they're willing to fork over the Hollywood rate. So Miranda's VA is not likely to be a deciding factor in her sidelining.

[shepard1038]

CrutchCricket wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

Changing the topic;
Do you think Miranda's personality overshadowe's Shepard's?

Not necessarily. Depends how you play Shepard. He's supposed to have some innate leadership qualities that make everyone follow him. So it shouldn't. Of course you can play him like a wuss in certain situations and reverse that to some degree.

I aren't talking about lidership. Im saying personality wise.

[Vertigo_1]

Err, I think Kieth David gets payed way more, I mean he's not exactly new to the business (movie or VA) compared to Yvonne.

[CrutchCricket]

shepard1038 wrote...

I aren't talking about lidership. Im saying personality wise.

Obivously. But clearly leadership factors into personality.

[CrutchCricket]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Err, I think Kieth David gets payed way more, I mean he's not exactly new to the business (movie or VA) compared to Yvonne.

True. Also Martin Sheen. Can't believe I forgot him:blush:

[ClanMacNab]

jtav wrote...

I prefer Virmire. That may be because I prefer Kaidan anyway. Though I wouldn't be terribly concerned about romancing someone in ME1 if you intend to stay with Miranda.

This.

I spend less than eight hours away from the forum and five pages go by...

[shepard1038]

CrutchCricket wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

I aren't talking about lidership. Im saying personality wise.

Obivously. But clearly leadership factors into personality.

Okay removing leadership out of the equation. What do you think?

[flemm]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Err, I think Kieth David gets payed way more, I mean he's not exactly new to the business (movie or VA) compared to Yvonne.

True. Also Martin Sheen. Can't believe I forgot him:blush:

How much the expensive VAs cost respectively is not really the relevant point. However, since for the moment there's no particular reason to believe this was a factor in Miranda's case, I'm more than happy to leave it at that.

Modifié par flemm, 02 février 2012 - 12:55 .

[MisterJB]

CrutchCricket wrote...
Still since they got Freddie Prinze Jr for Vega it does seem that they're willing to fork over the Hollywood rate. So Miranda's VA is not likely to be a deciding factor in her sidelining.

Vega is a permanent squadmate from the beginning of the game. The status Miranda used to enjoy from.
By the time they were writing her role and lines, they already knew that she could be dead and might have also known that all ME2 characters would be sidelined.
Miranda is no longer a main character, she is not the main source of fanservice meant to attract new players and she is not even a squadmate. I doubt they considered paying Yvonne a worthy investment.

Modifié par MisterJB, 02 février 2012 - 12:57 .

[shepard1038]

flemm wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Err, I think Kieth David gets payed way more, I mean he's not exactly new to the business (movie or VA) compared to Yvonne.

True. Also Martin Sheen. Can't believe I forgot him:blush:

How much the expensive VAs cost respectively is not really the relevant point. However, since for the moment there's no particular reason to believe this was a factor in Miranda's case, I'm more than happy to leave it at that.

No because Ea doesn't pay for that.

[flemm]

shepard1038 wrote...
No because Ea doesn't pay for that.

Wait, doesn't pay for what?

[Vertigo_1]

MisterJB wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...
Still since they got Freddie Prinze Jr for Vega it does seem that they're willing to fork over the Hollywood rate. So Miranda's VA is not likely to be a deciding factor in her sidelining.

Vega is a permanent squadmate from the beginning of the game. The status Miranda used to enjoy from.
By the time they were writing her role and lines, they already knew that she could be dead and might have also known that all ME2 characters would be sidelined.
Miranda is no longer a main character, she is not the main source of fanservice meant to attract new players and she is not even a squadmate. I doubt they considered paying Yvonne a worthy investment.

They get payed per # of sessions (or hours), unless I totally misread your comment (it's getting late here)
www.voiceovertimes.com/2008/02/02/actors-score-500k-for-video-game-voice-overs/

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 02 février 2012 - 01:01 .

[shepard1038]

MisterJB wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...
Still since they got Freddie Prinze Jr for Vega it does seem that they're willing to fork over the Hollywood rate. So Miranda's VA is not likely to be a deciding factor in her sidelining.

Vega is a permanent squadmate from the beginning of the game. The status Miranda used to enjoy from.
By the time they were writing her role and lines, they already knew that she could be dead and might have also known that all ME2 characters would be sidelined.
Miranda is no longer a main character, she is not the main source of fanservice meant to attract new players and she is not even a squadmate. I doubt they considered paying Yvonne a worthy investment.

Can't we change the subject is depressing