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[shepard1038]

Jynthor wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ClanMacNab wrote...

Dat belly button

/poke

So I'm not the only one who loves the belly button? Ha!

Nope you're not the only one

[Zjarcal]

ClanMacNab wrote...

When did Wheatley became a ME squadmate?

[Skullheart]

jtav wrote...

Well, the good news for Miranda is that she's getting her body and memories back in the revised version. The bad news is she now has indoctrination to contend with, on top of being recently dead.

So, she'll end dead at the end? (committing suicide or killed by Shep).

A dead Miranda is better than an indoctrinated Miranda. Shep should respect what she was once, and let her rest in peace. Then he could take care of Oriana.

[Mr.House]

Zjarcal wrote...

ClanMacNab wrote...

When did Wheatley became a ME squadmate?

:lol:

[android654]

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

android654 wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

Because it is a sensible matter.

Or it's unimportant to the majority of the people in that time period. I'll reiterate my original thought on Miranda and Thane. They wouldn't get along because his spirituality invites irresponsibility which leads to recklessness. It's not a concept the character would embrace. Miranda doesn't need answers from sources other than herself, which is the main function of a religion, to provide reason and rationale for those who don't posses it.

If you don't like religion fine, but don't criticize other people.
And if you don't mine I want to get back on topic

No one was criticizing anyone for anything.

And android brings up some good points. People in ME don't cling to religion the way people do in real life. There are a handful of religious people and 1 or 2 estremist groups, but that's it.

The reason I said that is because Bioware is very cautious with religion in Me, so they don't show a lot of
Religion. Bu that doesn't mean religion isn't abundant.

They have another game that centers around religion very heavily and has its strong fan base as well. I think they didn't show it because it's not reflective of the ME universe. It does however make sense in a medieval setting like DA.

[ClanMacNab]

Zjarcal wrote...

ClanMacNab wrote...

When did Wheatley became a ME squadmate?

Wheatley is everywhere...and we are evidently fellow Portal fans, as well.

Modifié par ClanMacNab, 07 février 2012 - 01:10 .

[PMC65]

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

android654 wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

Because it is a sensible matter.

Or it's unimportant to the majority of the people in that time period. I'll reiterate my original thought on Miranda and Thane. They wouldn't get along because his spirituality invites irresponsibility which leads to recklessness. It's not a concept the character would embrace. Miranda doesn't need answers from sources other than herself, which is the main function of a religion, to provide reason and rationale for those who don't posses it.

If you don't like religion fine, but don't criticize other people.
And if you don't mine I want to get back on topic

No one was criticizing anyone for anything.

And android brings up some good points. People in ME don't cling to religion the way people do in real life. There are a handful of religious people and 1 or 2 estremist groups, but that's it.

The reason I said that is because Bioware is very cautious with religion in Me, so they don't show a lot of
Religion. Bu that doesn't mean religion isn't abundant.

I would think that spirituality would grow not decrease as new worlds, new species open up to us. I could even see where religions would find new converts. A human might start to follow the asari religion, a turian converts and becomes an Orthodox Jew (now that would be an interesting little one-off fan fic piece if done with light humor). 
ME & ME2 don't show gay people either so they must be almost extinct ...

[shepard1038]

So Mirandas role in Me3 has quality but not quantity from what I can gather?

[ClanMacNab]

shepard1038 wrote...

So Mirandas role in Me3 has quality but not quantity from what I can gather?

Let us hope that if quantity isn't there, quality definitely is, in spades.

Modifié par ClanMacNab, 07 février 2012 - 01:13 .

[android654]

PMC65 wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

android654 wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

Because it is a sensible matter.

Or it's unimportant to the majority of the people in that time period. I'll reiterate my original thought on Miranda and Thane. They wouldn't get along because his spirituality invites irresponsibility which leads to recklessness. It's not a concept the character would embrace. Miranda doesn't need answers from sources other than herself, which is the main function of a religion, to provide reason and rationale for those who don't posses it.

If you don't like religion fine, but don't criticize other people.
And if you don't mine I want to get back on topic

No one was criticizing anyone for anything.

And android brings up some good points. People in ME don't cling to religion the way people do in real life. There are a handful of religious people and 1 or 2 estremist groups, but that's it.

The reason I said that is because Bioware is very cautious with religion in Me, so they don't show a lot of
Religion. Bu that doesn't mean religion isn't abundant.

I would think that spirituality would grow not decrease as new worlds, new species open up to us. I could even see where religions would find new converts. A human might start to follow the asari religion, a turian converts and becomes an Orthodox Jew (now that would be an interesting little one-off fan fic piece if done with light humor). 
ME & ME2 don't show gay people either so they must be almost extinct ...

If we're following trends in human nature then initially yes exploring other religions would be common. However if we're using human behaviour as a baseline to determine trends, then as time passes agnosticism rises with time. By the time the first contact war happens the numbers of non-believers could easily out wiegh those of religious followers. If the same behaviour is applicable to the other species, which would make sense since they're all very human like, then many of them would also leave their more archiac beliefs behind as they merged with newer species.

But back to Miranda, can anyone honestly say they can see this character being religious or spiritual?

[AgitatedLemon]

shepard1038 wrote...

So Mirandas role in Me3 has quality but not quantity from what I can gather?

Maybe still not the best way to put it.

[Skullheart]

We don't know what she might receive. All we know is that She will have a minor role, because she might be dead and BW doesn't want to punish the players who killed Miranda.

[shepard1038]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

So Mirandas role in Me3 has quality but not quantity from what I can gather?

Maybe still not the best way to put it.

What do you Mean?

[PMC65]

android654 wrote...

But back to Miranda, can anyone honestly say they can see this character being religious or spiritual?

I could see her questioning, like Mordin ... but I don't personally see her as very spiritual minded. That is one of the reasons that PV Shepard knows it would never work between the two.

[AgitatedLemon]

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

So Mirandas role in Me3 has quality but not quantity from what I can gather?

Maybe still not the best way to put it.

What do you Mean?

Well, Miranda, like the other ME2 characters, can be easily replaced in their respective roles. Plus, at the time of the leak, the ending of course hadn't been written yet. Based on what we DO have, I'd give it a 6/10. the romance is good, everything else is painfully average-bad.

Except maybe the scene where Miranda dies, but I'll never watch that.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 07 février 2012 - 01:27 .

[jtav]

I see her as atheist, but my view of Lazarus might be coloring things.

[android654]

PMC65 wrote...

android654 wrote...

But back to Miranda, can anyone honestly say they can see this character being religious or spiritual?

I could see her questioning, like Mordin ... but I don't personally see her as very spiritual minded. That is one of the reasons that PV Shepard knows it would never work between the two.

I couldn't even entertain the idea of her questioning it. She's the type of person who uses empirical reasoning for almost all of the decisions in her life. She would have to be confounded by compelling evidence that confounded her, and even then it would only be until she deciphered it.

[shepard1038]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

So Mirandas role in Me3 has quality but not quantity from what I can gather?

Maybe still not the best way to put it.

What do you Mean?

Well, Miranda, like the other ME2 characters, can be easily replaced in their respective roles. Plus, at the time of the leak, the ending of course hadn't been written yet. Based on what we DO have, I'd give it a 6/10. the romance is good, everything else is painfully average-bad.

Except maybe the scene where Miranda dies, but I'll never watch that.

But the Death of Miranda can be avoided, remember.

[AgitatedLemon]

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

So Mirandas role in Me3 has quality but not quantity from what I can gather?

Maybe still not the best way to put it.

What do you Mean?

Well, Miranda, like the other ME2 characters, can be easily replaced in their respective roles. Plus, at the time of the leak, the ending of course hadn't been written yet. Based on what we DO have, I'd give it a 6/10. the romance is good, everything else is painfully average-bad.

Except maybe the scene where Miranda dies, but I'll never watch that.

But the Death of Miranda can be avoided, remember.

I know, which is why I said I'll probably never watch it.

[PMC65]

android654 wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

android654 wrote...

But back to Miranda, can anyone honestly say they can see this character being religious or spiritual?

I could see her questioning, like Mordin ... but I don't personally see her as very spiritual minded. That is one of the reasons that PV Shepard knows it would never work between the two.

I couldn't even entertain the idea of her questioning it. She's the type of person who uses empirical reasoning for almost all of the decisions in her life. She would have to be confounded by compelling evidence that confounded her, and even then it would only be until she deciphered it.

Then your Miranda never questioned ... that's cool.

[shepard1038]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

So Mirandas role in Me3 has quality but not quantity from what I can gather?

Maybe still not the best way to put it.

What do you Mean?

Well, Miranda, like the other ME2 characters, can be easily replaced in their respective roles. Plus, at the time of the leak, the ending of course hadn't been written yet. Based on what we DO have, I'd give it a 6/10. the romance is good, everything else is painfully average-bad.

Except maybe the scene where Miranda dies, but I'll never watch that.

But the Death of Miranda can be avoided, remember.

I know, which is why I said I'll probably never watch it.

Oh, okay just wanted for you to know that It can be avoided.

Modifié par shepard1038, 07 février 2012 - 01:33 .

[android654]

PMC65 wrote...

android654 wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

android654 wrote...

But back to Miranda, can anyone honestly say they can see this character being religious or spiritual?

I could see her questioning, like Mordin ... but I don't personally see her as very spiritual minded. That is one of the reasons that PV Shepard knows it would never work between the two.

I couldn't even entertain the idea of her questioning it. She's the type of person who uses empirical reasoning for almost all of the decisions in her life. She would have to be confounded by compelling evidence that confounded her, and even then it would only be until she deciphered it.

Then your Miranda never questioned ... that's cool.

There's only the one, the character is scripted that way. You can influence her one way or another, but there's only one Miranda in the series.

[PMC65]

android654 wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

android654 wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

android654 wrote...

But back to Miranda, can anyone honestly say they can see this character being religious or spiritual?

I could see her questioning, like Mordin ... but I don't personally see her as very spiritual minded. That is one of the reasons that PV Shepard knows it would never work between the two.

I couldn't even entertain the idea of her questioning it. She's the type of person who uses empirical reasoning for almost all of the decisions in her life. She would have to be confounded by compelling evidence that confounded her, and even then it would only be until she deciphered it.

Then your Miranda never questioned ... that's cool.

There's only the one, the character is scripted that way. You can influence her one way or another, but there's only one Miranda in the series.

Then you misunderstood ... I was saying that I could see where that might be true. Personally I like to think that she had a very soul-searching moment, something she would never admit ... you prefer to see her as never having that moment. I'm cool with that.

[Lenimph]

Zjarcal wrote...

ClanMacNab wrote...

When did Wheatley became a ME squadmate?

LOL <3

[android654]

PMC65 wrote...

android654 wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

android654 wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

android654 wrote...

But back to Miranda, can anyone honestly say they can see this character being religious or spiritual?

I could see her questioning, like Mordin ... but I don't personally see her as very spiritual minded. That is one of the reasons that PV Shepard knows it would never work between the two.

I couldn't even entertain the idea of her questioning it. She's the type of person who uses empirical reasoning for almost all of the decisions in her life. She would have to be confounded by compelling evidence that confounded her, and even then it would only be until she deciphered it.

Then your Miranda never questioned ... that's cool.

There's only the one, the character is scripted that way. You can influence her one way or another, but there's only one Miranda in the series.

Then you misunderstood ... I was saying that I could see where that might be true. Personally I like to think that she had a very soul-searching moment, something she would never admit ... you prefer to see her as never having that moment. I'm cool with that.

What would suggest that she ever had a moment like that? I also thinks it takes more than a singular moment for someone to question their very reality.

Modifié par android654, 07 février 2012 - 01:56 .