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[Ieldra]

enayasoul wrote...
So you think Miranda and Shepard would do some r & r before heading to earth for the bull**** trial they are putting him on? My maleshep is pissed off with being the scapecoat... they did **** to help him with the collectors or believing the Reapers did exist.

Of course Miranda and Shepard would have a nice parting scene. Yes, Cyrus Shepard is also pissed at the Alliance for several things, not the least of which is that he has to leave Miranda behind. Grrr.....

[goofyomnivore]

I like what Dean_the_Young suggested for a pre-trial romance specific scene/dialogue. As for the Alliance, I'm pretty meh on them. I don't really like any of the organizations we meet in the Mass Effect universe. Ideally to me the Alliance and Cerberus merge back into one. Cerberus needs something to keep it in line, and the Alliance need some backbone. They would be ideal for each other IMO.

Modifié par strive, 02 juillet 2011 - 06:25 .

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
I think it very likely that we'll be seeing a Kingdom Hearts-style party system, with none of the ME2 team being permanent but joining you for the appropriate mission(s). For example, Miranda would join you only for the mission to eliminate Cerberus. Would you be happy with this?

Only if that applies to everyone but the VS and Vega (i.e. the minimum team of 2) - most especially Garrus and Tali. Because anything else would still mean that the ME2 team members are sidelined. As for Miranda, if it means she's got a big role I could live with it, but in general one mission is not enough.

This just popped into my head, but I think all the ME2 romances will be handled as Liara's was in LOTSB: a few extra lines on the mission proper with a debrief scene following where the romance is confirmed. And the traditional sex scene before the final battle if you didn't leave them for your ME1 or ME3 LI.

I hope not. Liara's lines/scene in LotSB weren't really a continuation of the romance, just a confirmation. It would take more to make it feel real for me. Also in LotSB, the confirmation was felt as significant because LotSB was just two hours or three. In a full game such a limited implementation would mean that the romance gets lost.

[13commander]

Maybe the quest with the personal effects is were we will meet Miranda (just saying hear me out).

Maybe that quest isn't just about the money, ships, space hamster,fish etc, but maybe it is about getting the old crew back, and Miri being the leader of the (hopefully former) Lazarus cell she will lead them and reunite with shepard.

Or she could just be on Earth with us for support with the trail (maybe this is problematic especially because of her father), Maybe she also joined the alliace (even with her past with cerberus)... Maybe based on recomandation from shepard ? or Anderson ? (for suporting Shep, etc), maybe she will remain the XO of the ship, and argue al the time with the VS ....

But this is just my opinion and my imagination running around )

[enayasoul]

Ieldra2 wrote...

enayasoul wrote...
So you think Miranda and Shepard would do some r & r before heading to earth for the bull**** trial they are putting him on? My maleshep is pissed off with being the scapecoat... they did **** to help him with the collectors or believing the Reapers did exist.

Of course Miranda and Shepard would have a nice parting scene. Yes, Cyrus Shepard is also pissed at the Alliance for several things, not the least of which is that he has to leave Miranda behind. Grrr.....

Yeah... It could have the potential of being a tear-jerker scene for both I'm sure.  Shepard leaving his love of his life to go to some farce of a trial.

I was watching the movie "Dear John" the other night.  He was enlisted in the special forces and fell madly in love with a woman on his two weeks down time.   He had to go back and finish his duty... the relationship was hard for both of them being apart.  Made me cry a few times.   [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/surprised.png[/smilie]

I remember reading from one of the mass effect books, "Retribution" with
Anderson and Saunders going after the Ilusive man and how nobody knew
where he was.  I wonder if they are going to pardon Miranda if she gives the Alliance, those not already in Cerberus's pockets, intel on where to find or how to take down Cerberus?  My Shepard never did transfer those files to the Alliance. He kept them.  Never knew when he might need some bargaining chips... that and Keji's gray box? :happy:

Modifié par enayasoul, 02 juillet 2011 - 11:21 .

[enayasoul]

13commander wrote...

Maybe the quest with the personal effects is were we will meet Miranda (just saying hear me out).

Maybe that quest isn't just about the money, ships, space hamster,fish etc, but maybe it is about getting the old crew back, and Miri being the leader of the (hopefully former) Lazarus cell she will lead them and reunite with shepard.

Or she could just be on Earth with us for support with the trail (maybe this is problematic especially because of her father), Maybe she also joined the alliace (even with her past with cerberus)... Maybe based on recomandation from shepard ? or Anderson ? (for suporting Shep, etc), maybe she will remain the XO of the ship, and argue al the time with the VS ....

But this is just my opinion and my imagination running around )

I think it would be neat if he had them stashed in a place nobody knew about.  Maybe Miranda and Shepards secret lair?

Modifié par enayasoul, 02 juillet 2011 - 11:22 .

[13commander]

enayasoul wrote...

13commander wrote...

Maybe the quest with the personal effects is were we will meet Miranda (just saying hear me out).

Maybe that quest isn't just about the money, ships, space hamster,fish etc, but maybe it is about getting the old crew back, and Miri being the leader of the (hopefully former) Lazarus cell she will lead them and reunite with shepard.

Or she could just be on Earth with us for support with the trail (maybe this is problematic especially because of her father), Maybe she also joined the alliace (even with her past with cerberus)... Maybe based on recomandation from shepard ? or Anderson ? (for suporting Shep, etc), maybe she will remain the XO of the ship, and argue al the time with the VS ....

But this is just my opinion and my imagination running around )

I think it would be neat if he had them stashed in a place nobody knew about.  Maybe Miranda and Shepards secret lair?

Like that house you got from ME1 from the DLC Pinacle station ? (i don't quite rember the name but i think this is it) that would be .... 

:happy::happy:

[Ieldra]

[quote]enayasoul wrote...
[quote]Ieldra2 wrote...

[quote]enayasoul wrote...
So you think Miranda and Shepard would do some r & r before heading to earth for the bull**** trial they are putting him on? My maleshep is pissed off with being the scapecoat... they did **** to help him with the collectors or believing the Reapers did exist. [/quote]
Of course Miranda and Shepard would have a nice parting scene. Yes, Cyrus Shepard is also pissed at the Alliance for several things, not the least of which is that he has to leave Miranda behind. Grrr.....

[/quote]
Yeah... It could have the potential of being a tear-jerker scene for both I'm sure.  Shepard leaving his love of his life to go to some farce of a trial. [/quote]
Yeah. It really feels that way to Cyrus Shepard. Miranda's like something he's been waiting for for years without knowing it. If we don't get such a scene in the game, I guess fanfic will have to do. I don't easily tear up about things like that in fiction, but this one might be the exception.

[quote]I remember reading from one of the mass effect books, "Retribution" with  Anderson and Saunders going after the Ilusive man and how nobody knew  where he was.  I wonder if they are going to pardon Miranda if she gives the Alliance, those not already in Cerberus's pockets, intel on where to find or how to take down Cerberus?  My Shepard never did transfer those files to the Alliance. He kept them.  Never knew when he might need some bargaining chips... that and Keji's gray box?[/quote]
Ha! That I'd like.

Shepard (Renegade tone): "I want my old crew back, and I want all charges against them dropped, as well as against Miranda Lawson and Jacob Taylor."
Admiral: "Or....what?"
Shepard: "I haven't done all your dirty work without getting to know how things work. There's some......embarrassing information I'm sure you don't want to get out. And just so we're clear: drop the charges. No official pardon or any such crap. They don't need a pardon, they've done more to save humanity than you!"
Admiral: "It isn't that easy....."
Shepard: "Don't ****** in my ear and tell me it's raining. But I'll put in a nice bonus. What about data on Cerberus activities and facilities all over the galaxy..."
 




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[naledgeborn]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Shepard: "Don't ****** in my ear and tell me it's raining. But I'll put in a nice bonus. What about data on Cerberus activities and facilities all over the galaxy..."
 

Wrex? 

[Melra]

Something I was wondering: I usually play sort of Paragonish (70% Paragon 30% Renegade choices) and I often play Zaeed's loyalty mission in Paragonish way, but this time I wanted to try something different and chose the Renegade for the first time.

Vido was the guy behind Blue Suns after all, so do you think Miri thought that sacrificing the refinery workers in favour of killing such man, is the right choice? I personally thought it could be, but since I don't know how many people were lost, I can't be completely certain myself.

[MisterJB]

I think Miranda would want to save the refinery, not so much because of the workers but rather to show Zaeed who's in charge. Having one loose cannon on the mission is already too much.

enayasoul wrote...
Yeah... It could have the potential of being a tear-jerker scene for both I'm sure.  Shepard leaving his love of his life to go to some farce of a trial.

Nobody else thinks that Miranda left the Normandy as soon as they exited the Galactic Core if she resigned? She would need to move faster than Cerberus, after all.
That's why I never use her in "Lair". That and the fact that Shepard will protect Liara and let Miranda get hit with a damn table.

naledgeborn wrote...

Wrex? 

Shepard! My friend!

Modifié par MisterJB, 02 juillet 2011 - 01:59 .

[jtav]

Funny. I've never been able to use anyone but Miranda in Lair. Gee, I wonder why...

Speaking of, I finally have proof that I can write fluff. Miranda/Liara

[Ieldra]

MisterJB wrote...
Nobody else thinks that Miranda left the Normandy as soon as they exited the Galactic Core if she resigned? She would need to move faster than Cerberus, after all.
That's why I never use her in "Lair". That and the fact that Shepard will protect Liara and let Miranda get hit with a damn table.

If she resigned, that means Shepard has broken with TIM, and she'll be as safe as anywhere on the Normandy. The only reason she'd leave fast is Oriana, and we don't know the specifics of her relocation. Perhaps she hasn't told Cerberus. Lanteia appeared to be one of her personal contacts, not a Cerberus contact.

I always use Miranda in LotSB. It's usually the last mission I do before Arrival, excepting a few minor sidequests here and there to get the upgrades from the SB base. Not having Miranda in Arrival is bad enough.

@naledgeborn:
I don't recall where that line is from. I found it appropriate.

[Ieldra]

I'm in need of ideas: How would - could - Miranda use her sex appeal to escape if she's captured and restrained? I have a scene in mind where Cerberus wants to give her the Grayson treatment. I have an idea or two in my mind, but I'm not convinced they're good, and so I'm looking for alternatives.

[naledgeborn]

Ieldra2 wrote...

@naledgeborn:
I don't recall where that line is from. I found it appropriate.

[ViSeiRa]

I guess Miranda and most of the Normandy crew would leave before Shepard going to Earth to face the trial, a (former) Cerberus crew wouldn't sit well with Alliance officials, so I don't think any of the crew - Miranda included - will ever face any charges, chance is they're not on Earth when ME3 begins.

[naledgeborn]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I'm in need of ideas: How would - could - Miranda use her sex appeal to escape if she's captured and restrained? I have a scene in mind where Cerberus wants to give her the Grayson treatment. I have an idea or two in my mind, but I'm not convinced they're good, and so I'm looking for alternatives.

"Damsel in distress". Distracting immediate captors. Headbutt, takes captor's pistol. Pistol to neck. 

[ViSeiRa]

naledgeborn wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I'm in need of ideas: How would - could - Miranda use her sex appeal to escape if she's captured and restrained? I have a scene in mind where Cerberus wants to give her the Grayson treatment. I have an idea or two in my mind, but I'm not convinced they're good, and so I'm looking for alternatives.

"Damsel in distress". Distracting immediate captors. Headbutt, takes captor's pistol. Pistol to neck. 

Not sure how a "Damsel is distress" scenario qualifies here.

Using seduction or sex appeal to get out of such situation would require the target to be susceptible to such thing in the first place, the target in my opinion should not be a scientist, a scientist would be more interested in his experiment more than the subject of it, so it'll have to be a security guard of some kind.

As Waiter Rant said "Seduction isn’t making someone do what they don’t want to do. Seduction is enticing someone into doing what they secretly want to do already"

So such scene would begin with two guards talking to one another, expressing "interest" in their prisoner, in which case Miranda overheard them and can wait until one of them is alone, use her talent to convince him to go into her cell in which case she can disarm him and escape, the specifics can be a little harder, she can even use reverse psychology to do so, by expressing her disinterest in him and how he couldn't "handle" what he's talking about.

Modifié par ViSeirA, 02 juillet 2011 - 02:58 .

[Ieldra]

I can only say that male scientists are also men. A man and woman in a room, the woman restrained - I guess it wouldn't take long for some secret desires to pop up in his brain, scientist or not.

[Melra]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I can only say that male scientists are also men. A man and woman in a room, the woman restrained - I guess it wouldn't take long for some secret desires to pop up in his brain, scientist or not.

This. Unless they're the insane doctor type, but even that doesn't completely exclude it.

[Td1984]

Melrache wrote...

Something I was wondering: I usually play sort of Paragonish (70% Paragon 30% Renegade choices) and I often play Zaeed's loyalty mission in Paragonish way, but this time I wanted to try something different and chose the Renegade for the first time.

Vido was the guy behind Blue Suns after all, so do you think Miri thought that sacrificing the refinery workers in favour of killing such man, is the right choice? I personally thought it could be, but since I don't know how many people were lost, I can't be completely certain myself.

I agree that Miranda would probably be in favor of saving the workers. However, I do the Renegade route on that mission. Mainly because if Vido dies, that opens up the opportunity for Zaeed to retake his place in charge of the Blue Suns. Never know when that might come in handy.

[Melra]

Td1984 wrote...

Melrache wrote...

Something I was wondering: I usually play sort of Paragonish (70% Paragon 30% Renegade choices) and I often play Zaeed's loyalty mission in Paragonish way, but this time I wanted to try something different and chose the Renegade for the first time.

Vido was the guy behind Blue Suns after all, so do you think Miri thought that sacrificing the refinery workers in favour of killing such man, is the right choice? I personally thought it could be, but since I don't know how many people were lost, I can't be completely certain myself.

I agree that Miranda would probably be in favor of saving the workers. However, I do the Renegade route on that mission. Mainly because if Vido dies, that opens up the opportunity for Zaeed to retake his place in charge of the Blue Suns. Never know when that might come in handy.

That's true, I never liked when someone told me what to do, that's why I saved the workers first time and after that it just became ''routine''. Now I had Vido killed, but now there's Batarian fully in charge, so it might turn out badly.

Anyway.. If her hair only was darker in this picture. She'd look quite spot on.

[Td1984]

Didn't know about the Batarian taking over. Sounds like a Catch-22 situation now.

[Melra]

Td1984 wrote...

Didn't know about the Batarian taking over. Sounds like a Catch-22 situation now.

Vido gave the charge over to a batarian, mainly as public stunt to make it nice with Batarians, while he pulled the strings, so now it might turn closer to Blood Pack.

[jtav]

Help me brainstorm something unpleasant? I have a MaleShep who despises Cerberus in general and Miranda in particular. And not in a sexual tension way. Suggestions?