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[AgitatedLemon]

JosephDucreux wrote...

Jesus H Kereist. Just 17 hours away from these forums and we blew up 21 pages.

Slow down dammit. Anyways, my faith that Miranda will actually be given something satisfying in ME3 is dimming fast. And no, a LotSB sized role for Miri IS NOT SATISFACTORY. Get that into your skulls.

P.S. MEFan, calm the hell down. Seriously man, tone down the drama. Nobody's telling you what to do or how you should be, so please, don't overreact and start bawling your eyes out. That's the niche of the Talimancers, and I'm pretty sure that's beneath you.

A LotSB "sized" role... Actually, I won't delve on that one, far too subjective. I would like something longer than LotSb though. I can clear that in around 20 minutes, if I feel like dragging it out. Naturally, I want to spend time with Miranda, not blaze through the 3 conversations we have with her and all of a sudden "When did I get here?" at her mission.

LotSB levels of quality though? Yes please.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 07 février 2012 - 06:31 .

[JeanLuc761]

AgitatedLemon wrote...
A LotSB "sized" role... Actually, I won't delve on that one, far too subjective. I would like something longer than LotSb though. I can clear that in around 20 minutes, if I feel like dragging it out.

I call shenanigans.  I think the fastest I've ever cleared that DLC was on the edge of 1 1/2 hours, and accessing all the content essentially guarantees 2 hours.

[Roxpanda1690]

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

One of the things I love in Me3 is that Miri and Shepard seem more in love

Which by itself pushes the romance into the top 5, easily.

More like in the top 3.

Well, the Liara romance is very well done too, and there's also...

Actually, no, that's it. The Liara romance and Miranda's are the only ones I think are "good" in ME3. The rest range from "decent" to "sin against nature".

We can certainly agree on that. Also Miri is 1 right?

Romances aside


The only " sin against nature" I've seen would have to be the Edi leak though I'm excited to see how the whole thing turns out but unleashing the Overlord and giving it or 'Her' a body seems like Bioware’s, going a little to far at times.

[AgitatedLemon]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...
A LotSB "sized" role... Actually, I won't delve on that one, far too subjective. I would like something longer than LotSb though. I can clear that in around 20 minutes, if I feel like dragging it out.

I call shenanigans.  I think the fastest I've ever cleared that DLC was on the edge of 1 1/2 hours, and accessing all the content essentially guarantees 2 hours.

I've actually timed myself. Hagalaz and the Base took me around 8 1/2 minutes on Normal (As Sentinel). But "dragging it out" is probably the wrong set of words.

More like "Somewhat slower than a speed run"

I'm not counting the shunt segment, where you have to hunker down and defend against waves of enemies.

edit: Good jeebus I suck at forum posts.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 07 février 2012 - 06:36 .

[JeanLuc761]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

I've actually timed myself. Hagalaz and the Base took me around 8 1/2 minutes on Normal (As Sentinel). But "dragging it ouT is probably the wrong set of words". I'm not counting the shunt segment, where you have to hunker down and defend against waves of enemies.

Maybe "Somewhat slower than speedrunning".

Right, but that's just the gameplay (and that's crazy fast).  With conversations and cutscenes, the DLC is easily 90+ minutes.

[JosephDucreux]

LotSB took me all of 1 hour to complete. If Miri gets relegated to that kind of crap role...then it's Panda time.

But I won't argue with the fact that LotSB was good quality stuff. 

[AgitatedLemon]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

I've actually timed myself. Hagalaz and the Base took me around 8 1/2 minutes on Normal (As Sentinel). But "dragging it ouT is probably the wrong set of words". I'm not counting the shunt segment, where you have to hunker down and defend against waves of enemies.

Maybe "Somewhat slower than speedrunning".

Right, but that's just the gameplay (and that's crazy fast).  With conversations and cutscenes, the DLC is easily 90+ minutes.

Ehh, I skip most of the dialogue (except the paragon check and Liara on the Normandy). I can instinctively pick the dialogue options I want by memory, since I've played the thing so many times in such a short window of time.

[shepard1038]

Actually I wouln't mind a Lotsb size role for Miranda.lol

[AgitatedLemon]

shepard1038 wrote...

Actually I wouln't mind a Lotsb size role for Miranda.lol

Weren't you the same person complaining that a 8-10 minute total for Miranda is unacceptable? LotSB was around that total for Liara, and LotSB wasn't exactly "long".

[shepard1038]

I don't recall saying a 8 to 10 minute for Miranda is unacceptable and Lotsb is 1 hour

[AgitatedLemon]

shepard1038 wrote...

I don't recall saying a 8 to 10 minute for Miranda is unacceptable and Lotsb is 1 hour

It's variable, if you speed through it (Like I tend to do), or if you take the time to listen to all of the dialogue, explore everything, etc.

As I said before, I can speed run the thing in around 20-25 minutes if I skip the dialogue.

[shepard1038]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

I don't recall saying a 8 to 10 minute for Miranda is unacceptable and Lotsb is 1 hour

It's variable, if you speed through it (Like I tend to do), or if you take the time to listen to all of the dialogue, explore everything, etc.

As I said before, I can speed run the thing in around 20-25 minutes if I skip the dialogue.

Would you really speed throught Miranda's Role in Mass effect 3

[AgitatedLemon]

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

I don't recall saying a 8 to 10 minute for Miranda is unacceptable and Lotsb is 1 hour

It's variable, if you speed through it (Like I tend to do), or if you take the time to listen to all of the dialogue, explore everything, etc.

As I said before, I can speed run the thing in around 20-25 minutes if I skip the dialogue.

Would you really speed throught Miranda's Role in Mass effect 3

I would, after I learn the different dialogue options and what they say.

I'd do it and I'd time myself to see how long it takes me, like I did with LotSB.

[kainee]

JosephDucreux wrote...

Jesus H Kereist. Just 17 hours away from these forums and we blew up 21 pages.

Slow down dammit. Anyways, my faith that Miranda will actually be given something satisfying in ME3 is dimming fast. And no, a LotSB sized role for Miri IS NOT SATISFACTORY. Get that into your skulls.

This

[Melra]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
Why talk to me when you stabbed me in the back and blocked me after beings friends for more than a year now? One of my oldest BSN Friends.

You asked a question and I answered. Deal with it.

No. You are a back stabber. You could've blocked me a long time ago, why now? I've been your friend since I came here nearly 2 years ago. You could have at least had a chance to find a different route instead of making the friendship end this way.

Silence. Everyone runs out of patience eventually, you should be thankful that some even sticked around as long as they did.

Edit: I don't understand how anyone could find the role satisfactory. Who cares if it's twice as long, if you just "explore" everything? If it takes more than one playthrough or reloading a save to explore another half of her small role, it's bull****.

Every playthrough is a new start and a new "world" for me at least, if I can't get "satisfactory dose" of a character in single playthrough, then it's not right.  "WOLOLOO GAIS, AT LEAST THERE'S LAIK REPLAY VALUE!" 

Modifié par Melrache, 07 février 2012 - 08:55 .

[wright1978]

kainee wrote...

JosephDucreux wrote...

Jesus H Kereist. Just 17 hours away from these forums and we blew up 21 pages.

Slow down dammit. Anyways, my faith that Miranda will actually be given something satisfying in ME3 is dimming fast. And no, a LotSB sized role for Miri IS NOT SATISFACTORY. Get that into your skulls.

This

Yep pretty much this. Still clinging to hope.

[Ieldra]

naledgeborn wrote...
Seriously what I asked for isn't unreasonable. Please tell me if it is. 2 missions (Dracon Trade/Hagalaz) , a confrontation with Jack Harper giving the character her much needed professional closure, and finally being playable for the last 20-30 minutes of what will be a memorable series.

Definitely not unreasonable. Even less so for the female lead of ME2 and the only really reasonable romance option for Shepards who think human advancement (minus the atrocities) is desirable. 

[JeanLuc761]

Filament wrote...

JosephDucreux wrote...

And no, a LotSB sized role for Miri IS NOT SATISFACTORY. Get that into your skulls.

Actually that sounds fine to me. :innocent:

Seems pretty reasonable to me as well.  LotSB was jam-packed with Liara content, romantic and otherwise.  Easily one of the best character treatment's I've seen in the entire series, with a TON of dialogue and character development.

Personally, I think it would be fantastic if all the characters recieved similar treatment in ME3.  

[MsSihaKatieKrios]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Filament wrote...

JosephDucreux wrote...

And no, a LotSB sized role for Miri IS NOT SATISFACTORY. Get that into your skulls.

Actually that sounds fine to me. :innocent:

Seems pretty reasonable to me as well.  LotSB was jam-packed with Liara content, romantic and otherwise.  Easily one of the best character treatment's I've seen in the entire series, with a TON of dialogue and character development.

Personally, I think it would be fantastic if all the characters recieved similar treatment in ME3.

Considering that Miranda is pretty much one of the most important characters in the entire ME-verse and by extension ME3, and the fact that she's pretty much the former 2IC of Cerberus (which makes up HALF of ME3's enemies), AND the fact that she had a hell lot of plot armour in ME2, and yes, I fully agree with Joseph.

[MassEffect4Eva1710]

I've been thinking about something... Miranda must have a big role in ME3 considering the plot armour Bioware gave her. She's the hardest squadmate to kill in the Suicide Mission! That must mean something! It's much easier to kill Tali and Garrus in the Suicide Mission than Miranda! If that doesn't mean anything then...Bioware's weird!

[JosephDucreux]

MassEffect4Eva1710 wrote...

I've been thinking about something... Miranda must have a big role in ME3 considering the plot armour Bioware gave her. She's the hardest squadmate to kill in the Suicide Mission! That must mean something! It's much easier to kill Tali and Garrus in the Suicide Mission than Miranda! If that doesn't mean anything then...Bioware's weird!

They are.

[wright1978]

Yeah i'm definitely not a fan of sidelining Miranda into a LOTSB style self contained bubble outside of the main story, pertaining pretty much solely to rehashing her personal issues. ME3 is more than a war story, it is a extinction story and characters need to have arcs that interweave with the main storyline. Miranda especially so as her professional story is tied to the major Cerberus arc running through ME3.

I would love Miranda and other characters to be usable at end of game but i'm very dubious about this now as i haven't heard of any evidence that they have been treated as squaddies in even the most basic aspect of having loadouts etc. Obviously i'm still hoping we are missing something big which would make her role more tolerable.

[Hillbillyshep]

Multiple LotSB-quality and -length missions are more akin and respectful to Miranda´s character.
She was Shepard´s 2nd-In-Command in ME2. That would not be the case in the Alliance-aligned- ME3.
Also, she has her own life, power and position and she isn´t willing enpugh to abandon all that.
Unlike Liara, Miranda isn´t an unhealthily obsessed damzel in distress, who doesn´t think twice about abandoning her position as the biggest shadow broker in the galaxy, to return to leach of her obession.

Trust me, i´m still bitter that Miri isn´t a permanent squadmate, but whining and what iff-ing is meaningless. Miranda isn´t permanent.

@wright1978 LotSB was DLC.

Modifié par Hillbillyshep, 07 février 2012 - 01:48 .

[Zjarcal]

JosephDucreux wrote...

Jesus H Kereist. Just 17 hours away from these forums and we blew up 21 pages.

The thread wouldn't move so fast if someone chose to deal with their drama in private and not cry in public...



No idea what's going on in that screenie.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 07 février 2012 - 05:17 .