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[bleetman]

Zjarcal wrote...

No idea what's going on in that screenie.

Miranda's teaching them the basics of being a street mime.

[CrutchCricket]

So, ignoring the repetition of complaints and counter-complaints (I wonder if we could codify it into a ritual?) I believe the last topic was Shepard and Miranda RP?

Now then, Jim-Bob Shepard is a ruthless spacer. On an orbiting space station, born and raised. Aboard war ships is where he spent most of his days. Chillin out, maxin- ok I'll stop.

His past is rather hazy (for reasons I won't get into) but being confronted with the vastness of the cosmos since he was little has left him rather detached and aloof. He's come to the conclusion that the only things that matter are those which he chooses to assign importance to. He's fascinated by space and would've been quite content studying the stars and other celestial bodies. However his military upbringing (among other things) steered him towards the Alliance. Due to his parents (and other role models) he has a desire to excel at whatever he applies to so he quickly rose through the ranks. Placing little stock in morality he has no problem doing whatever is necessary to accomplish objectives as efficiently as possible. There is more to be said here to explain his degrees of ruthlessness but I'm not prepared to expand on it at this time.

Difficult to say what exactly draws him to Miranda. Her appearance is no doubt part of it. Her pragmatic nature echoes his own yet she does have an emotioal core she keeps hidden, which is again somewhat analogous to what he does. She's brilliant and an excellent fighter. He also recognizes how she can complement him, supply what is lacking. He doesn't believe her goals (human advancement) are of any objective importance but is willing to dedicate himself to them fully because she does (and she is important to him).

As for Miranda, a lot of it is hinted at in-game. Really they're both worthy of each other in ways others haven't fully been.

[CrutchCricket]

Zjarcal wrote...
No idea what's going on in that screenie.

Miranda is NOT down with what Jack and Liara have planned for her bachelorette party.

[flemm]

JosephDucreux wrote...
But I won't argue with the fact that LotSB was good quality stuff. 

It was. Anyway, nothing in the leak would merit comparisons to LotSB. It's more like a Loyalty Mission + a few conversations leading up to it.

Modifié par flemm, 07 février 2012 - 03:12 .

[Dr. Doctor]

Zjarcal wrote...



No idea what's going on in that screenie.

Biotic bubble, being stuck in an invisible box. Same thing.

[BillsVengenace]

She's going to kick Subject Zero where the sun don't shine then make out with Liara.

[AgitatedLemon]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...
No idea what's going on in that screenie.

Miranda is NOT down with what Jack and Liara have planned for her bachelorette party.

It looks more like Miranda is practicing for her mime show.

Invisible biotic barrier, warding off invisible seeker swarms, while invisible Shepard and crew make it through the invisible Collector base.

edit: What would another squad mate (Or a group of them) actually DO for a bachelor/bachelorette party (For Miranda and Shepard)? Say... Garrus, Thane, and Joker for male Shepard, and Liara, Jack, and Tali for Miranda.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 07 février 2012 - 03:43 .

[jtav]

All That Remains
Summary: "Do me a favor? Keep an eye on Oriana for me?" Many people have died under Lawrence Shepard's command, but only one haunts him. All that remains is to honor her last wish. What he didn't bargain for was love. That and Miranda's return from the grave. Shepard/Oriana, Miranda/Liara

[android654]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...
No idea what's going on in that screenie.

Miranda is NOT down with what Jack and Liara have planned for her bachelorette party.

It looks more like Miranda is practicing for her mime show.

Invisible biotic barrier, warding off invisible seeker swarms, while invisible Shepard and crew make it through the invisible Collector base.

edit: What would another squad mate (Or a group of them) actually DO for a bachelor/bachelorette party (For Miranda and Shepard)? Say... Garrus, Thane, and Joker for male Shepard, and Liara, Jack, and Tali for Miranda.

I don't think Miranda has any friends or is friendly enough for anyone to throw her a bachelorette party.

[AgitatedLemon]

android654 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...
No idea what's going on in that screenie.

Miranda is NOT down with what Jack and Liara have planned for her bachelorette party.

It looks more like Miranda is practicing for her mime show.

Invisible biotic barrier, warding off invisible seeker swarms, while invisible Shepard and crew make it through the invisible Collector base.

edit: What would another squad mate (Or a group of them) actually DO for a bachelor/bachelorette party (For Miranda and Shepard)? Say... Garrus, Thane, and Joker for male Shepard, and Liara, Jack, and Tali for Miranda.

I don't think Miranda has any friends or is friendly enough for anyone to throw her a bachelorette party.

Shepard/Miranda don't necessarily need to know what's going on. Surprise party.

[android654]

I don't think anyone other than Tali would even think to do that for her.

[CrutchCricket]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Shepard/Miranda don't necessarily need to know what's going on. Surprise party.

Clearly. That's why Miranda's like "You want to do WHAT?" in that pic. She may throw an optional biotic bubble as further sign of protest. I don't think she can hold Jack AND Liara though...

[AgitatedLemon]

android654 wrote...

I don't think anyone other than Tali would even think to do that for her.

They call it "What-If?" for a reason, y'know.

[AgitatedLemon]

CrutchCricket wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Shepard/Miranda don't necessarily need to know what's going on. Surprise party.

Clearly. That's why Miranda's like "You want to do WHAT?" in that pic. She may throw an optional biotic bubble as further sign of protest. I don't think she can hold Jack AND Liara though...

A futile effort, indeed.

[MisterJB]

android654 wrote...

I don't think anyone other than Tali would even think to do that for her.

I can't imagine Tali's opinion of Miranda being any better than her opinion of Jacob. She seems to hate Cerberus on principle.
Kasumi and Kelly would probrably throw Miranda a bachelorette party, though.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

MisterJB wrote...

android654 wrote...

I don't think anyone other than Tali would even think to do that for her.

I can't imagine Tali's opinion of Miranda being any better than her opinion of Jacob. She seems to hate Cerberus on principle.
Kasumi and Kelly would probrably throw Miranda a bachelorette party, though.

The characters like Tali, VS, and Alliance Characters need to lighten up. 

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 07 février 2012 - 05:15 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

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Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 07 février 2012 - 05:20 .

[Jynthor]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

android654 wrote...

I don't think anyone other than Tali would even think to do that for her.

I can't imagine Tali's opinion of Miranda being any better than her opinion of Jacob. She seems to hate Cerberus on principle.
Kasumi and Kelly would probrably throw Miranda a bachelorette party, though.

The characters like Tali, VS, and Alliance Characters need to lighten up. 

Definitely.
Oh hai again, guys.

[Zjarcal]

Someone certainly needs to lighten up in here.

Filament wrote...

JosephDucreux wrote...

And no, a LotSB sized role for Miri IS NOT SATISFACTORY. Get that into your skulls.

Actually that sounds fine to me. :innocent:

It sounds fine to me as well really. I was satisfied when I finished LOTSB, more so than after doing some of the loyalty missions in the vanilla game. Granted, when it comes to someone like Miranda I'll always want moar, but as long as her role is good, a LOTSB sized one is more than ok with me.

[billy the squid]

Zjarcal wrote...

Someone certainly needs to lighten up in here.

Filament wrote...

JosephDucreux wrote...

And no, a LotSB sized role for Miri IS NOT SATISFACTORY. Get that into your skulls.

Actually that sounds fine to me. :innocent:

It sounds fine to me as well really. I was satisfied when I finished LOTSB, more so than after doing some of the loyalty missions in the vanilla game. Granted, when it comes to someone like Miranda I'll always want moar, but as long as her role is good, a LOTSB sized one is more than ok with me.

I agree, LOTSB was a very solid piece of DLC, linked well with Liara and ME2 and I didn't have to read any of the associated fiction/ comics which are associated with it to understand what was happening. And I'm not a huge advocate of DLC.
 
If the characters which are not in the main game recieve that level of quality involvement, then really I'm happy. I'd rather that, than some contrived reason for Miranda or anyother character for that reason, to be foisted into the storyline.

[FeralEwok]

billy the squid wrote...

I agree, LOTSB was a very solid piece of DLC, linked well with Liara and ME2 and I didn't have to read any of the associated fiction/ comics which are associated with it to understand what was happening. And I'm not a huge advocate of DLC.
 
If the characters which are not in the main game recieve that level of quality involvement, then really I'm happy. I'd rather that, than some contrived reason for Miranda or anyother character for that reason, to be foisted into the storyline.

When BW said that LOTSB was a preview of things to come, I took it in the most literal sense. Not just with the dialogue, cutscene cinematogrophy, and overall improved quality of how things looked but as an important part of the game design. They probably figured out a long time ago they had too many squadmates once added with ME1's cast and also realized they had too big a chore in trying to incorporate every single character in the game as either a squadmate or a rather pivotal role. Solution is give them all a 1-2 hour mission that is styled after LOTSB. You could fill up alot of gametime and give characters proper closure that way.

[android654]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

android654 wrote...

I don't think anyone other than Tali would even think to do that for her.

They call it "What-If?" for a reason, y'know.

Gee-whiz.

Ok, Liara would be too shy to suggest anything good. Jack would suggest something too wild for her. Tali however seems to have a good dose of "girlyness" in her. I'm thinking the generic thing of going to clubs or trying to force Miranda to go that is.

[billy the squid]

FeralEwok wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

I agree, LOTSB was a very solid piece of DLC, linked well with Liara and ME2 and I didn't have to read any of the associated fiction/ comics which are associated with it to understand what was happening. And I'm not a huge advocate of DLC.
 
If the characters which are not in the main game recieve that level of quality involvement, then really I'm happy. I'd rather that, than some contrived reason for Miranda or anyother character for that reason, to be foisted into the storyline.

When BW said that LOTSB was a preview of things to come, I took it in the most literal sense. Not just with the dialogue, cutscene cinematogrophy, and overall improved quality of how things looked but as an important part of the game design. They probably figured out a long time ago they had too many squadmates once added with ME1's cast and also realized they had too big a chore in trying to incorporate every single character in the game as either a squadmate or a rather pivotal role. Solution is give them all a 1-2 hour mission that is styled after LOTSB. You could fill up alot of gametime and give characters proper closure that way.

Yeah, ME2 had a quasi Dirty Dozen feel to it, which was okay, I did enjoy it and some of the characters were excellent. Yet, other characters i found simply boring and rather empty, Jacob for instance, nice guy, but meh. I didn't use him once outside the loyalty mission, there wasn;t anything to him, to a certain extent the same was true of Miranda, I liked the Character, but she could have certainly done with more development other than being Shep's "happy, go lucky" second in command.

Only certain characters I felt had an amount of weight to their involvement in the storyline and appeared at central moments or we had previous exposure to in ME1 to make them more interesting as we already had some backstory or previous interest. Garrus for instance, or Tali appearing several times in the main story, but only later linking up with Shepard. LOTSB addressed that with Liara, okay she wasn't involved in the main game, unless you did the LOTSB mission, before the attack on the collector base, which was a nice touch. But, as you said, time to develop thecharacter was an issue or they just become throw away items. It felt more fluid to have Liara hunt down the Shadow Broker even if you were in a relationship in ME1 that drop everything and swoon over Shep, at the drop of a hat.

Which is why even if Miranda or other characters don't have a large amount of time or invlovement, then something like LOTSB is the best option, obviously if you killed them in Me2, then it's not so much an issue.

[JeanLuc761]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
The characters like Tali, VS, and Alliance Characters need to lighten up. 

I partly agree with you.  All of those characters have very valid reasons to hate and/or distrust Cerberus, especially after what we all witnessed in the first game.  I sure as hell don't trust them to have anything beyond human supremacy on their agenda, and the Illusive Man is a perfect display of this.  Charismatic, sure, but he makes no apologies for furthering human dominance.  It's perfectly reasonable that Tali (and aliens in general) as well as the Alliance would have a problem with Cerberus, if not the specific people on the Normandy.

[flemm]

FeralEwok wrote...

 Solution is give them all a 1-2 hour
mission that is styled after LOTSB. You could fill up alot of gametime
and give characters proper closure that way.

While that sounds nice in theory, it's pretty clear from the leaked script that it won't work like that for the most part. LotSB was a preview in terms of style in a lot of ways, certainly, but not in terms of how non-squad members' stories will be handled.

As for ties to the main story, Miranda has as much as anyone, given the importance of Cerberus in this game.

billy the squid wrote...
she could have certainly done with more development other than being Shep's "happy, go lucky" second in command.

His what? LoL.

Modifié par flemm, 07 février 2012 - 06:57 .