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[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Jesse Houston told me this when I asked him if we will be rewarded for Having Miri as our ONLY LI:


"I can't obviously give out spoiler like details but I can promise you that you will be rewarded don't `cha worry! "

[MisterJB]

His definition of a "reward" may differ greatly from ours. Unless it's additional content that would be unavailable had we romanced different LIs in both games, I don't consider it much of a reward.

Modifié par MisterJB, 04 juillet 2011 - 02:57 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I don't want the purpose for the Romance with Miri continuing to be having confrontations with an me1 li I HAVEN'T HAD, AND DON'T PLAN TO.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 04 juillet 2011 - 03:02 .

[enayasoul]

Here's a thought... how long do you think Miranda cared for Oriana before giving her up for adoption... Miranda was at least 16? 17? It must have been a challenge to raise a baby by herself? Or how long was she on the run from her father and securing a job with Cerberus.

[ParkerArt]

MisterJB wrote...

His definition of a "reward" may differ greatly from ours. Unless it's additional content that would be unavailable had we romanced different LIs in both games, I don't consider it much of a reward.

Well is most likely won't be a link to a webcam of Ms Strahovski... sadly.

[Ieldra]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
Jesse Houston told me this when I asked him if we will be rewarded for Having Miri as our ONLY LI:

"I can't obviously give out spoiler like details but I can promise you that you will be rewarded don't `cha worry! :D"

That would be the first time players get rewarded for avoiding certain content in games. Also since I don't think it's "cheating", I don't see any necessity for an extra reward. Avoiding a cheesy catfight-type confrontation is reward enough for me, and if the confrontation is handled well, I may even prefer the Ashley/Miranda path because it's more interesting. 

[Ieldra]

enayasoul wrote...
Here's a thought... how long do you think Miranda cared for Oriana before giving her up for adoption... Miranda was at least 16? 17? It must have been a challenge to raise a baby by herself? Or how long was she on the run from her father and securing a job with Cerberus.

I told it like this in a fanfic: Miranda's escape and her coming into contact with Cerberus went hand-in-hand. A Cerberus agent helped her find her way after she escaped. So she was never on her own with Oriana.

[Vertigo_1]

A bit OT:



but I have a feeling some people would be interested in the alternate outfits for these four in ME3.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 04 juillet 2011 - 06:59 .

[Ieldra]

Sarcastic Tasha wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
And yes, that's what attracted me to her, too. Miranda doesn't fall down at Shepard's feet, tells him her whole life story etc. at the first meeting, but actually rebuffs him when he - inappropriately - wants to get personal. When I heard it first, it was almost a shock because it was so unexpected, but then I thought - well yeah, I *have* been a little intrusive here. It always makes me smile. To think some people hate her for it...

It was a strange moment, Shepard is used to butting into any strangers' conversations and seeing if she can solve their personal problems, probably makes Miranda the only normal person in the galaxy.

In that regard, Ashley is the same. She even says that she's used to dealing with her problems herself. Probably one of the reasons I like her, too. Occasionally, I'm still thinking of replaying one of my Shepards with Ashley as the only romance. Never works, of course. There is no resisting Miranda.

[Ieldra]

Repearized Miranda wrote...
"Well, my lover's miles away, but we're still together, but I'm gonna screw you anyway. What she doesn't know won't hurt her." "Two years" pass and your old flame comes back. "Oh, I thought we broke up!" Both ladies want to beat your ass for lying to both of them. What I am saying is, while what they're after isn't necessarily bad, but I'd rather have Liara chew me out for getting chummy with Miranda and her blasting me for bumping Ashley. IOW, no such gap!

That depends. For instance, I think Miranda doesn't have a lot to complain to you about if Ashley was your LI in ME1. Ashley's in Shepard's past, and if you take Miranda to Horizon and then romance her it will appear to be nothing more than a standard break-up. Ashley also hasn't much to complain about - it should certainly not surprise her how things went after Horizon. So in this case there would not be so much anger at Shepard as rivalry between the two - ideally it would have to be understated, since both are grown women who know very well it doesn't serve any purpose.
Should Shepard go back to Ashley in the end, now that would be a reason for Miranda to get angry at Shepard. That would make it appear as if Miranda was nothing more than a distraction of the moment.

It's with Liara things get really awkward, with their common history and the re-meet on Illium (which went mysteriously uncommented by both). I don't have a Liara/Miranda combination and thankfully I'm not in the least tempted to go that way, but there I can imagine both being angry with Shepard much more easily.

Having said this, I'm only bumping Miranda though Ashley is tempting, but I know what would make me resist that temptation! Care to guess?

Miranda's reaction?

[Jebel Krong]

Ieldra2 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
Jesse Houston told me this when I asked him if we will be rewarded for Having Miri as our ONLY LI:

"I can't obviously give out spoiler like details but I can promise you that you will be rewarded don't `cha worry! :D"

That would be the first time players get rewarded for avoiding certain content in games. Also since I don't think it's "cheating", I don't see any necessity for an extra reward. Avoiding a cheesy catfight-type confrontation is reward enough for me, and if the confrontation is handled well, I may even prefer the Ashley/Miranda path because it's more interesting. 

this. why should people who played ME2 first be rewarded at the expense of those who've been with the series since the beginning? a major point of the games is romances - whether you change LI or not isn't important - for a start there are achievements for romances in both games. tbh a little conflict between a previous LI and current one would make for some interesting development, as long as it's not overblown and doesn't compromise you game-wise, and you can deal with it how you want.

[Prudii Aden]

Jebel Krong wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
Jesse Houston told me this when I asked him if we will be rewarded for Having Miri as our ONLY LI:

"I can't obviously give out spoiler like details but I can promise you that you will be rewarded don't `cha worry! :D"

That would be the first time players get rewarded for avoiding certain content in games. Also since I don't think it's "cheating", I don't see any necessity for an extra reward. Avoiding a cheesy catfight-type confrontation is reward enough for me, and if the confrontation is handled well, I may even prefer the Ashley/Miranda path because it's more interesting. 

this. why should people who played ME2 first be rewarded at the expense of those who've been with the series since the beginning? a major point of the games is romances - whether you change LI or not isn't important - for a start there are achievements for romances in both games. tbh a little conflict between a previous LI and current one would make for some interesting development, as long as it's not overblown and doesn't compromise you game-wise, and you can deal with it how you want.

Indeed. I really hope that there is some reward for those people who've been with the game since the beginning.  After all, if it hadn't been for them, would ME2 or 3 been done? Would it have even been ported to PS3?

[Repearized Miranda]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Repearized Miranda wrote...
"Well, my lover's miles away, but we're still together, but I'm gonna screw you anyway. What she doesn't know won't hurt her." "Two years" pass and your old flame comes back. "Oh, I thought we broke up!" Both ladies want to beat your ass for lying to both of them. What I am saying is, while what they're after isn't necessarily bad, but I'd rather have Liara chew me out for getting chummy with Miranda and her blasting me for bumping Ashley. IOW, no such gap!

That depends. For instance, I think Miranda doesn't have a lot to complain to you about if Ashley was your LI in ME1. Ashley's in Shepard's past, and if you take Miranda to Horizon and then romance her it will appear to be nothing more than a standard break-up. Ashley also hasn't much to complain about - it should certainly not surprise her how things went after Horizon. So in this case there would not be so much anger at Shepard as rivalry between the two - ideally it would have to be understated, since both are grown women who know very well it doesn't serve any purpose.
Should Shepard go back to Ashley in the end, now that would be a reason for Miranda to get angry at Shepard. That would make it appear as if Miranda was nothing more than a distraction of the moment.

It's with Liara things get really awkward, with their common history and the re-meet on Illium (which went mysteriously uncommented by both). I don't have a Liara/Miranda combination and thankfully I'm not in the least tempted to go that way, but there I can imagine both being angry with Shepard much more easily.

Having said this, I'm only bumping Miranda though Ashley is tempting, but I know what would make me resist that temptation! Care to guess?

Miranda's reaction?

IA with that assessment. It's just the "gap" that bothers me. Luckily, I won't have to worry about that though as neither one was nor could they be my LI; however, I of them can be now. I'll take that back. I do wonder how Liara would react, but most cite awkwardness wuth her. I wasn't going that far, but you know me well. *hides* :innocent:

[Repearized Miranda]

Jebel Krong wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
Jesse Houston told me this when I asked him if we will be rewarded for Having Miri as our ONLY LI:

"I can't obviously give out spoiler like details but I can promise you that you will be rewarded don't `cha worry! :D"

That would be the first time players get rewarded for avoiding certain content in games. Also since I don't think it's "cheating", I don't see any necessity for an extra reward. Avoiding a cheesy catfight-type confrontation is reward enough for me, and if the confrontation is handled well, I may even prefer the Ashley/Miranda path because it's more interesting. 

this. why should people who played ME2 first be rewarded at the expense of those who've been with the series since the beginning? a major point of the games is romances - whether you change LI or not isn't important - for a start there are achievements for romances in both games. tbh a little conflict between a previous LI and current one would make for some interesting development, as long as it's not overblown and doesn't compromise you game-wise, and you can deal with it how you want.

But to his point though there are achs. for romance,, you don't have to gun for them if you don't want to. I would've dumped Liara for Miranda if I could, but couldn't. He isn't talking necessarily to punish players from ME1 (because I believe he's played that game, too). What he is asking if there will be a reward for being monogamous. (ie: Being with Ashley/Garrus/Tali from one to three) Miranda just missed a game. Nbd. (There's a thread asking if they'll be a reward for playing the same character though all three games - as a group - not individual transfers. 1-3, not 1,2 and 3. It may seem like the same, but it isn't.)

However, as I've said before, they are pushing for fights to happen and some don't want that - no matter how interesting and/or contained they are (which in hopes, I agree with) Monogamous players should be as much rewarded as polygamist players.

Modifié par Repearized Miranda, 04 juillet 2011 - 11:35 .

[Repearized Miranda]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

A bit OT:



but I have a feeling some people would be interested in the alternate outfits for these four in ME3.

Tacked on a portion of my motivational to this because I just knew someone would say it!

[Ieldra]

Repearized Miranda wrote...
But to his point though there are achs. for romance,, you don't have to gun for them if you don't want to. I would've dumped Liara for Miranda if I could, but couldn't. He isn't talking necessarily to punish players from ME1 (because I believe he's played that game, too). What he is asking if there will be a reward for being monogamous. (ie: Being with Ashley/Garrus/Tali from one to three)

That was clear from the start. As I said, beyond avoiding fights I don't expect there to be one, since it would mean punishing players who explored more of the romance content. I can imagine a few things I'd like to see, but were I a game designer I would make either no such rewards or very minor ones. 

There's a thread asking if they'll be a reward for playing the same character though all three games - as a group - not individual transfers. 1-3, not 1,2 and 3. It may seem like the same, but it isn't.)

Please explain the difference. There is no way to transfer characters between games except transfer of the individual final saves.

[Jebel Krong]

Revan92 wrote...

Casey Hudson said that if you have a romance in ME 1 and took a new romance in ME 2 then it will have dire consequences in ME 3, no matter how you roleplay it.

that's not what he said at all.

[Melra]

He said that there would be a conflict, he didn't say that it would have ''dire'' consequences.

[Repearized Miranda]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Repearized Miranda wrote...
But to his point though there are achs. for romance,, you don't have to gun for them if you don't want to. I would've dumped Liara for Miranda if I could, but couldn't. He isn't talking necessarily to punish players from ME1 (because I believe he's played that game, too). What he is asking if there will be a reward for being monogamous. (ie: Being with Ashley/Garrus/Tali from one to three)

That was clear from the start. As I said, beyond avoiding fights I don't expect there to be one, since it would mean punishing players who explored more of the romance content. I can imagine a few things I'd like to see, but were I a game designer I would make either no such rewards or very minor ones. 

There's a thread asking if they'll be a reward for playing the same character though all three games - as a group - not individual transfers. 1-3, not 1,2 and 3. It may seem like the same, but it isn't.)

Please explain the difference. There is no way to transfer characters between games except transfer of the individual final saves.

Odds are I wouldn't either. I just didn't want his post to get this type of reaction: "I get that you're a Miri fan, but bring it down some." Not say that happened, but it might. However, as I said earlier (I forget to whom) is that romance in general from the beginning was next to nil. I just saw the sex scene with Miri, but was more than the "dinner date/sleepover" with Kelly. I know sex and romance don't equate necessarily, but they didn't bring alot to that table either. If I romanced Ashley and carried her through to ME3, then the relationship should have gone further instead of "Oh, we've talked enough, let's go to bed." That is not romance. I don't expect a real world scenario, but more than that could have been done in that span of time. Again, if I stayed true to Ashley or Miranda since the beginning don't make it seem worthless (I don't mean attach an achievement to it either).

Yeah, I niffed on the transfer thing, sorry, I guess cause I've seen "consecutive" numerically written as "x-y" and "x,y,z"

[Ieldra]

Revan92 wrote...
Casey Hudson said that if you have a romance in ME 1 and took a new romance in ME 2 then it will have dire consequences in ME 3, no matter how you roleplay it.

Yes, the dire consequences came up somewhere from an official source, though I don't recall who exactly said it, but what kind of consequence would merit the word "dire"? I can think of two: 
(1) It will be impossible for you to go back to your old LI because she will reject you. Which I don't think they'll implement because they want the way back to stay open.
(2) You can decide for one or the other, and the rejected one leaves the team and subsequently dies in a Reaper attack. Which I don't think they'll implement because that would make the leaving one appear stupid.

The problem is, most things I can think of in terms of "dire consequences", I don't think Bioware will implement. Though perhaps ME3 will be different, being that last game with (hopefully) widely diverging outcomes.

Anyway, I'm content to wait and see, since I have maleShep games with both Miranda alone and Ashley->Miranda.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 04 juillet 2011 - 01:29 .

[elarem]

In one of my ME playthroughs Shepard had a Liara fling which in ME2 became a Miranda love interest. Playing through the LotSB and not using the paragon interrupts ed to a very civilized meeting in the captain's quarters with Liara. She seemed to take the break up quite calmly so when Casey Hudson says there will be dire consequences I tend to doubt it. Unless Liara goes all postal on us. However to be sure I made a single Shepard in ME who doesn't have that worry in ME3. Perhaps the consequences are not for the three individuals themselves but relate more to the bigger picture.

[jtav]

I suspect the "dire" consequences will be nothing more serious than one clamming up. I'll see it, but on the FemShep side. Liara to Garrus and Kaidan to Thane.