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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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jtav wrote...

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Ideally what would you want for Miranda's endgame contribution? 


She leads all the other rogue Cerberus elements. Humanity's STG formed at last.


Yep i want her to rally rogue Cerberus elements ideally into a refounded independent Cerberus.

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Miranda and my fShep match

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jtav wrote...

Can we define "normal?" A great number of intelligence officers are married with children. I want her to continue to work for human advancement. I also want her to have a positive relationship with her sister and a small circle of close friends. The two are not mutually exclusive, and BW shouldn't treat them as such.


When I think of normal, I think of how Miranda wants Oriana to live, happy and free of the dangers that Miranda typically carries. I don't want Miranda to turn into the stereotypical housewife (At home, tending the kids) while Shepard goes off and saves the world some more, nor vice versa. Of course, if the both of them wanted children, I'm more than certain they can circumvent her current infertility.

Part of me think s a normal life (As how I feel it would happen) isn't all that possible. Do we know if Miranda has any skills outside her work? I can't imagine she doesn't, but clarification would help determining a possible future.

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Solid Snake hands down.
I think he could get along well with Miranda, since they have a similar personalities.


Both characters can be compared in many ways.
Indeed, they are both genetically modified humans, designed to be the best in many ways. Also, they were always used as a tool, a mean to an end.
However, Snake was created as a mere experiment as opposed to Miranda who was engineered to carry her father's legacy/dynasty.

Nonetheless, I don't think their have similar personalities.
I don't see Snake as someone having a "sugar and ice" personality as opposed to Miranda. He is not as pragmatic on the battlefield and not as emotional with his close acquaintances in my opinion.
Though they both are extremely resourceful and have a strong will and strong ideals.

I could see them getting along fine professionally speaking, but maybe not as close friends.


With "get along well" I meant in a professional way, not as close friend (since Snake is an analytical person, and quite often cold-hearted, and Miranda is cold-hearted on work and is very pragmatic). I probably used the wrong words.

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The more I think about Sam Fisher interacting with Miranda, I don't see them becoming close in the slightest. Maybe as coworkers, since they both have a very similar skill set, but nothing much beyond that.

edit: Sam is incredibly dark (Especially so post-Conviction), and is willing to torture and kill for a few names or a tidbit of information. Not to mention, the first interrogation scene in Conviction involves breaking a guy's hand, slamming his head into a bathroom sink, Setting him down and kneeing in his face, and slamming his head into a toilet (And then curb stomping his head into the same toilet, shattering the porcelain), all for a name and location. Sam then proceeds to strangle the guy until he passes out.

I can't see Miranda going to THAT length for such a small amount of information. Sam is much more cruel than she is.

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For some reason, I'd like Max Guevara (Jessica Alba's character in "Dark Angel") in the squad. She'd probably get along to an extent with Miranda since they were both genetically created, so they may eventually be able to find common ground.

Another possibility would be Agent 47 (Hitman), but I haven't exactly played the games and only saw the 2007 film once.

Possibility #3: Sydney Bristow from Alias.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...
Do we know if Miranda has any skills outside her work? I can't imagine she doesn't, but clarification would help determining a possible future.

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I'm sure if she wants to, Miranda can continue achieving the impossible for the betterment of all humanity while maintaining close relationships with the people she cares about.

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Td1984 wrote...

For some reason, I'd like Max Guevara (Jessica Alba's character in "Dark Angel") in the squad. She'd probably get along to an extent with Miranda since they were both genetically created, so they may eventually be able to find common ground.

Another possibility would be Agent 47 (Hitman), but I haven't exactly played the games and only saw the 2007 film once.

Possibility #3: Sydney Bristow from Alias.


One thing Sydney and Max would like about Miranda is how important her sister is to her. All Max has are her "siblings" and all Sydney has were her parents. That being said, Miranda's capability to be deceptive would not go over well with Sydney, she does not like being mislead for whatever the reason may be. Max wouldn't work for Cerberus, since Miranda and TIM seem to echo a lot of the same things MANTICORE and Lydecker used to preach; by any means necessary. Max hates that style of dictatorial power centralized to one or two people, if anything after hearing about things like Pragia, Max might be inclined to do something about them.

47's personality is very robotic, with a subtle hint of sadness for not being human. He's genetically manufactured like Miranda, distilled to be "the perfect killer," with a series of "brothers" that follow in the same path. He's much more like Grunt in the sense that he kills because he doesn't know how to do anything else. He has phrased it that he doesn't behave human because he isn't and doesn't deserve to be human.

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Td1984 wrote...

For some reason, I'd like Max Guevara (Jessica Alba's character in "Dark Angel") in the squad. She'd probably get along to an extent with Miranda since they were both genetically created, so they may eventually be able to find common ground.

Another possibility would be Agent 47 (Hitman), but I haven't exactly played the games and only saw the 2007 film once.

Possibility #3: Sydney Bristow from Alias.


Yeah, 47 could actually get along well with Miranda.
They are both genetically engineered, calculating and focused.
Their stories are also somewhat similar:
Both came from tubes and were genetically engineered by a power-hungry madman.
47´s was engineered to kill, so he joined ICA.
Miranda was devoted to human-dominance so she joined Cerberus.
Both were betrayed by their employer.

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... Like I said, "I can't imagine that she doesn't", but I don't if there's anything in particular.

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Both were betrayed by their employer.

Could've sworn Miranda quits of her own accord.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

jtav wrote...

Can we define "normal?" A great number of intelligence officers are married with children. I want her to continue to work for human advancement. I also want her to have a positive relationship with her sister and a small circle of close friends. The two are not mutually exclusive, and BW shouldn't treat them as such.


When I think of normal, I think of how Miranda wants Oriana to live, happy and free of the dangers that Miranda typically carries. I don't want Miranda to turn into the stereotypical housewife (At home, tending the kids) while Shepard goes off and saves the world some more, nor vice versa. Of course, if the both of them wanted children, I'm more than certain they can circumvent her current infertility.

Part of me think s a normal life (As how I feel it would happen) isn't all that possible. Do we know if Miranda has any skills outside her work? I can't imagine she doesn't, but clarification would help determining a possible future.

Pretty much this.

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Jynthor wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

jtav wrote...

Can we define "normal?" A great number of intelligence officers are married with children. I want her to continue to work for human advancement. I also want her to have a positive relationship with her sister and a small circle of close friends. The two are not mutually exclusive, and BW shouldn't treat them as such.


When I think of normal, I think of how Miranda wants Oriana to live, happy and free of the dangers that Miranda typically carries. I don't want Miranda to turn into the stereotypical housewife (At home, tending the kids) while Shepard goes off and saves the world some more, nor vice versa. Of course, if the both of them wanted children, I'm more than certain they can circumvent her current infertility.

Part of me think s a normal life (As how I feel it would happen) isn't all that possible. Do we know if Miranda has any skills outside her work? I can't imagine she doesn't, but clarification would help determining a possible future.

Pretty much this.


Avoiding the stereotypical housewife is probably the hardest part.

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I can't even imagine her as a housewife. Like, I just can't do it.

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That's because is out of context.

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You want my view of her happy ending? Read this

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

Jynthor wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

jtav wrote...

Can we define "normal?" A great number of intelligence officers are married with children. I want her to continue to work for human advancement. I also want her to have a positive relationship with her sister and a small circle of close friends. The two are not mutually exclusive, and BW shouldn't treat them as such.


When I think of normal, I think of how Miranda wants Oriana to live, happy and free of the dangers that Miranda typically carries. I don't want Miranda to turn into the stereotypical housewife (At home, tending the kids) while Shepard goes off and saves the world some more, nor vice versa. Of course, if the both of them wanted children, I'm more than certain they can circumvent her current infertility.

Part of me think s a normal life (As how I feel it would happen) isn't all that possible. Do we know if Miranda has any skills outside her work? I can't imagine she doesn't, but clarification would help determining a possible future.

Pretty much this.


Avoiding the stereotypical housewife is probably the hardest part.


If they gave her children in the game, that is exactly what would happen. They could never let their lead character take a back seat, even if their supporting characters are better.

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Jynthor wrote...

I can't even imagine her as a housewife. Like, I just can't do it.


For some reason, the only comparison I can make between Miranda + Shepard is the parents from Spy Kids (Lol, those movies are horrid). Drop the kids off at daycare or school or whatever, go save the world, come back and pick up the kids when they get back.

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android654 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Jynthor wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

jtav wrote...

Can we define "normal?" A great number of intelligence officers are married with children. I want her to continue to work for human advancement. I also want her to have a positive relationship with her sister and a small circle of close friends. The two are not mutually exclusive, and BW shouldn't treat them as such.


When I think of normal, I think of how Miranda wants Oriana to live, happy and free of the dangers that Miranda typically carries. I don't want Miranda to turn into the stereotypical housewife (At home, tending the kids) while Shepard goes off and saves the world some more, nor vice versa. Of course, if the both of them wanted children, I'm more than certain they can circumvent her current infertility.

Part of me think s a normal life (As how I feel it would happen) isn't all that possible. Do we know if Miranda has any skills outside her work? I can't imagine she doesn't, but clarification would help determining a possible future.

Pretty much this.


Avoiding the stereotypical housewife is probably the hardest part.


If they gave her children in the game, that is exactly what would happen. They could never let their lead character take a back seat, even if their supporting characters are better.

I don't think Bioware would do that in the Game, maybe after the Game ends on a epilouge.

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android654 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Jynthor wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

jtav wrote...

Can we define "normal?" A great number of intelligence officers are married with children. I want her to continue to work for human advancement. I also want her to have a positive relationship with her sister and a small circle of close friends. The two are not mutually exclusive, and BW shouldn't treat them as such.


When I think of normal, I think of how Miranda wants Oriana to live, happy and free of the dangers that Miranda typically carries. I don't want Miranda to turn into the stereotypical housewife (At home, tending the kids) while Shepard goes off and saves the world some more, nor vice versa. Of course, if the both of them wanted children, I'm more than certain they can circumvent her current infertility.

Part of me think s a normal life (As how I feel it would happen) isn't all that possible. Do we know if Miranda has any skills outside her work? I can't imagine she doesn't, but clarification would help determining a possible future.

Pretty much this.


Avoiding the stereotypical housewife is probably the hardest part.


If they gave her children in the game, that is exactly what would happen. They could never let their lead character take a back seat, even if their supporting characters are better.


That's one reason why I always say that if kids (And marriage) ever become possible, it needs to happen either post-credits or as an epilogue.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

android654 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Jynthor wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

jtav wrote...

Can we define "normal?" A great number of intelligence officers are married with children. I want her to continue to work for human advancement. I also want her to have a positive relationship with her sister and a small circle of close friends. The two are not mutually exclusive, and BW shouldn't treat them as such.


When I think of normal, I think of how Miranda wants Oriana to live, happy and free of the dangers that Miranda typically carries. I don't want Miranda to turn into the stereotypical housewife (At home, tending the kids) while Shepard goes off and saves the world some more, nor vice versa. Of course, if the both of them wanted children, I'm more than certain they can circumvent her current infertility.

Part of me think s a normal life (As how I feel it would happen) isn't all that possible. Do we know if Miranda has any skills outside her work? I can't imagine she doesn't, but clarification would help determining a possible future.

Pretty much this.


Avoiding the stereotypical housewife is probably the hardest part.


If they gave her children in the game, that is exactly what would happen. They could never let their lead character take a back seat, even if their supporting characters are better.


That's one reason why I always say that if kids (And marriage) ever become possible, it needs to happen either post-credits or as an epilogue.

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I wonder when Miranda's page in the artbook will get leaked online. I'm eager to see what it will reveal.

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As long as I can get a happy ending that's childfree, I'll be happy.

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shepard1038 wrote...


Also i think you can refer to the above postImage IPB


Those posts were placed within 20 seconds of one another.

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jtav wrote...

As long as I can get a happy ending that's childfree, I'll be happy.


Same here! I'm reading the epilogue now, and it's a pretty decent way for things to turn out. A life out of the way, and all thier own, with her work close by but not solely ruling her.