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[Repearized Miranda]

Ieldra2 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
I am DEVOTED to the Perfect Miss Lawson.<3<3<3<3

Hmm...I wonder what kind of ideas Miranda might get from someone saying such a thing....

Ask Shepard in regards to Liara! 

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Repearized Miranda wrote...

Do you have both on PC and 360/PS3?

Ah, seems like you took the gradual approach. I went from Casual and jumped the Grand Canyon to Insanity. However, you may find that Insanity's not that difficult - at least oce you have everything figured out. And yeah, take her for the duration - nqa!

I only have it for PC now.  

Insanity shouldn't. With Miri at my side, and my tactical advantages, including flanking, and incredible headshots, Miri an I will be unstoppable.

[DaveExclamationMarkYognaut]

ViSeirA wrote...

I wish we get the option to skewer Miri's father... literally.

You mean as a s/s option?

Modifié par DaveExclamationMarkYognaut, 04 juillet 2011 - 08:15 .

[Td1984]

jtav wrote...

Does anyone else see Miranda as the person they identify with, rather than Shepard? She's something of a self-inset for me, the fantasy figure I'd like to be.

Considering she's the opposite sex, that would be a bit difficult/awkward for me. I ultimately identify with Shep, but see Miri as the type of woman I'd want (goes beyond simply being portrayed by Yvonne).

[jtav]

Run him through messily and painfully. I want that bastard dead.

I can't meaningfully roleplay as myself as Shepard, so I don't even try. It is much easier for me to be sympathetic and attached to female Shepards as opposed to male ones. Which is why I suspect I would like Miranda's romance better as a s/s option. I am romancing Garrus right now and having a great time.

[Td1984]

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
Does anyone else see Miranda as the person they identify with, rather than Shepard? She's something of a self-inset for me, the fantasy figure I'd like to be.

It's a little like that for me too. I usually play female protagonists if I have the choice, and Miranda would be *the* dream protagonist for me. Only I find it hard to do in ME2 with Shepard's overpowering presence, and since I'm male in RL I get drawn into maleShep more easily than you.

Tbh, I'm that way as well.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I want to shoot multiple rounds through his head, and Miri crushing him at the same time. I know that it sounds like an overkill, but it's what that bastard deserves.

[Jebel Krong]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...

Prudii Aden wrote...
All this talk of consequences made me realise that of all of my male Shepard playthroughs where Ashley is still around, none have remained with her. I'm almost tempted to see if I can get through ME 2 without romancing Miranda...

meh i don't really see the point in retroactively replaying characters to get a supposed 'optimal outcome'... life doesn't work that way, and if you do it in-games the only person you're cheating is yourself.

I see things differently. It's not like real life. Instead, I see it as writing a story - my Shepard's story. As such, I want control over the plotlines and my characters' influence on them as much as the game lets me. I'll play my first game with a low-spoiler approach (meaning I won't actively go hunting for them) but my main Shepard will be the one whose story I can control. As for which outcomes I choose, that depends on my Shepard's imagined personality.

I know what you're saying but imo your analogy is flawed - you're not writing the story yourself - any more than you control the outcome of a film or book, but you can shape it, to a degree, only your method reduces that flexibility further in search of your 'ideal story' ironically therefore further aping the other mediums in the process. I do the same thing myself of course, eventually, for my canon playthroughs, but I always start with a 'natural' run, which is generally close to my ideal anyway, I find, and will be carrying into ME3 as first play.

I never go back and 'fix' any choices once i'm happy with the ones I've made though (previous romances, killing certain people, events etc).

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 04 juillet 2011 - 08:47 .

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Run him through messily and painfully. I want that bastard dead.

I find the hate expressed here disturbing. I prefer clean kills. A single bullet to the head, preferably by Miranda should she choose so. And I'll hear him out before that. 

[Jebel Krong]

Ieldra2 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
I am DEVOTED to the Perfect Miss Lawson.<3<3<3<3

Hmm...I wonder what kind of ideas Miranda might get from someone saying such a thing....

The Wilson treatment most likely...

[ViSeiRa]

DaveExclamationMarkYognaut wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...

I wish we get the option to skewer Miri's father... literally.

You mean as a s/s option?

LOL, god no... I mean when it comes to killing him we can you know... skewer him

[Ieldra]

Jebel Krong wrote...
I know what you're saying but imo your analogy is flawed - you're not writing the story yourself - any more than you control the outcome of a film or book, but you can shape it, to a degree, only your method reduces that flexibility further in search of your 'ideal story' ironically therefore further aping the other mediums in the process. I do the same thing myself of course, eventually, for my canon playthroughs, but I always start with a 'natural' run, which is generally close to my ideal anyway, I find.

I was saying exactly that. I'll start with a low-spoiler run, making decisions as they seem right to me at that time. In most cases, my later canon playthrough will have identlcal major decisions.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Jebel Krong wrote...

The Wilson treatment most likely...

Why? All I said was that I am a Devoted Mirimancer/Mirimaniac. Why do I deserve a shot in the head?

My god! Can someone PLEASE tell me what I did wrong?

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 04 juillet 2011 - 08:52 .

[Jebel Krong]

@ ieldra, ah my edit may have cleared my thought process on it a little. I don't deny that most people probably do the same, I just think that everyone 'games' it - because they can - and that inevitably removes some of the freedom of the choices, and the repercussions/consequences of said choices, which is kind of sad.

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 04 juillet 2011 - 08:57 .

[Jebel Krong]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...

The Wilson treatment most likely...

Why? All I said was that I am a Devoted Mirimancer/Mirimaniac. Why do I deserve a shot in the head?

My god! Can someone PLEASE tell me what I did wrong?

Oh calm down i was only half-serious, but tell me: do you think miranda would respect someone who thought or came out with something like that?

[jtav]

Sorry, Ieldra. I was pushed pretty hard as a teenager, but not to the point of abuse, so it's all just a little bit more personal. Parents who mistreat their children are my personal Berserk Button.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Jebel Krong wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...

The Wilson treatment most likely...

Why? All I said was that I am a Devoted Mirimancer/Mirimaniac. Why do I deserve a shot in the head?

My god! Can someone PLEASE tell me what I did wrong?

Oh calm down i was only half-serious, but tell me: do you think miranda would respect someone who thought or came out with something like that?

Something like what? What is wrong with devotion?

I was saying that Miri is my ONE AND ONLY LI.  And I am devoted. What is wrong with what I said? Just tell me.

Was  it bad grammer? Did I say it wrong? What?

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 04 juillet 2011 - 09:03 .

[Errol Dnamyx]

You seem to like drama.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

If I don't know what was wrong with what I said, it's gonna drive me crazy.

Tell me, what the hell is wrong with being a devoted Mirimancer/Mirimaniac?

All I said was Devoted

Which means very loving or loyal.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 04 juillet 2011 - 09:11 .

[Jebel Krong]

Devotion denotes weakness and an inability to make rational, sensible decisions of your own accord. Miranda would not respect someone who espoused that. Shepard is the polar opposite of that BTW, which is one of the reasons Miranda does open up to him on the first-place - the relationship comes from a union of 2 incredibly strong equals.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Well then what should I say then. "She trusts me, and I care about her."?

Look what I meant by devoted is that I, as the player, will NOT have another LI. I do NOT want another LI. Not anyone else. Just her.

That is what I meant.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 04 juillet 2011 - 09:17 .

[ViSeiRa]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

If I don't know what was wrong with what I said, it's gonna drive me crazy.

Tell me, what the hell is wrong with being a devoted Mirimancer/Mirimaniac?

All I said was Devoted

Which means very loving or loyal.

Chillax, he was joking... but if you think about it, Wilson was trying to get Miranda's attention, among other things and look where that got him

[Vertigo_1]

jtav wrote...

Sorry, Ieldra. I was pushed pretty hard as a teenager, but not to the point of abuse, so it's all just a little bit more personal. Parents who mistreat their children are my personal Berserk Button.

Hah, same here. 
Though my parents are old school I suppose...

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

What I meant to say was that Miri is My ONE AND ONLY LI. I will not betray Miri. If I ever betrayed Miri, I'll give myself the Wilson Treatment.

What other words should I say? One that is not, weak

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 04 juillet 2011 - 09:23 .

[Repearized Miranda]

Td1984 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
Does anyone else see Miranda as the person they identify with, rather than Shepard? She's something of a self-inset for me, the fantasy figure I'd like to be.

It's a little like that for me too. I usually play female protagonists if I have the choice, and Miranda would be *the* dream protagonist for me. Only I find it hard to do in ME2 with Shepard's overpowering presence, and since I'm male in RL I get drawn into maleShep more easily than you.

Tbh, I'm that way as well.

Well, I can't say I "identify" with her, IRL, but I do since I play Femshep. Of course, I could get into the VA deal - not to say who's better or worse - because both do an excellent job. However, I connect with Hale because she voices her with an heavily emotional tone - directed to play as someone genuine and affectionate. I'll repeat nothing against Mark, but he may have been directed to portray Shepard as someone estoic. [Do not turn this into a VA competition]

I just identify with that more. (ie: The hug after Tali's realizes the truth about her father)

As far as Miranda goes. Well, I'm kind of like her. I mean, there's the obvious things, but if you sit down with me, chances are I'll open up more. Gameplay wise: She's pretty damn good in combat and therefore my go-to; however, she has the same mindset. Tactics, tactics, tactics! (I'm employ that with just about every game I play)

And then, if Ashley is tactical along with being "gung ho", perfect squad for me since I carried each through the respective games.