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[Totally Not Swaggacide]

Go to YouTube.com/GhostRobo to see the ME3 Demo

[AgitatedLemon]

Jynthor wrote...

I couldn't let Miri kill her only childhood friend, especially because Niket isn't a bad guy, this becomes very clear after the paragon interrupt. He just didn't know the whole story. And even though he did die, his blood is not on Miri's hands.
Note: Even though I'm about 80% Renegade.

I'm half and half on the interrupt. My more pragmatic paragade Shepard doesn't do it, while my somewhat more idealistic (But still practical) paragon does. I don't personally like the physical animation Shepard goes through when it's used, but I rationalize it in a similar way you say you do.

[jtav]

I always let her kill him. Ordinary justice is unavailable, she's a big girl, and he's abetting the kidnapping of an adult.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

But....she's not like that. It would have also made a bad impression. What if Oriana was there as an actual captive? What if she saw Miri killing someone unarmed in cold blood before even finding out that she is her sister? She wouldn't believe her.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 12 février 2012 - 02:17 .

[Dr. Doctor]

I'm partial to the idea of  Shepard "disappearing" after the end of ME3 to go and work alongside Miranda and her STG-like organization.

[AgitatedLemon]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

I'm partial to the idea of  Shepard "disappearing" after the end of ME3 to go and work alongside Miranda and her STG-like organization.

This is how I headcanon my main Shepard.

Miranda takes TIM's old mantle as well as heads the scientific divisions, and Shepard leads the actual army, with Jacob and Enzo assisting. Shepard also acts as an advisor to Miranda, when the time calls for his input.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 12 février 2012 - 02:21 .

[MisterJB]

android654 wrote...
Of course she doesn't kill everyone, she kills quite a few people, but if she can avoid it she might. They've detained people before who knew Chuck was the intersect. She killed him after he said Fulcrum would go after him. Fulcrum didn't know Chuck was the intersect, only that he was Charmichael.

The difference is that those people she detained did not matter to Fulcrum, the organization would just let them rot in prison. The agent she killed clearly stated that he was different from those, Fulcrum would never stop until they had rescued him.
Therefore, that agent was a more real and lasting danger to Chuck than anyone else up until that point. So, she shot him.

Sarah's reason for killimg him were emotional,

Sarah's reason for killing was emotional only if you include her desire to protect someone she cares about in it. In that case, Miranda's reason for killing Niket was also emotional.
However, the reason she chose to kill that particular agent was based on logic.

it's even more evident when she lies to him only moments later about killing him. Showing shame about it is blatantly emotional.

The way she feels about that kill has nothing to do with the why she did it. It only shows that she does not like killing unarmed people.
And it is possible that she lied not because she was ashamed but simply because she cares about the way Chuck thinks of her and knows he does not approve of killing.

Eventhough Niket was combative up to that point, the fact that she wouldn't give the only friend she ever had 2 minutes to explain himself show's she had no regard for his person, just her objective.

Miranda asked Niket to explain his actions, she heard what he had to say.
And talking to her after the deed is done, it becomes evident that she feels sadness over it and whishes she didn't have to do it.
"Why did he make me kill him? He could have run. He could've lied about having the data stored somewhere."
You atone by fixing your mistakes, not by committing suicide.
"I would've liked to convince Niket"
"I... regret that it came to that. But I did what I had to do."

This mirrors others situations in the game. For example, Miranda is the one who suggests leaving any possible survivors in the Lazarus station behind but then, after reaching safety, she has this to say:
"I just hope it was worth it. A lot of people lost their lives on that station."

She is angry that people died even after deeming them expendable.
After making these hard decisions that cost people their lives, Miranda shows emotions, she can be sad or regretfull or angry. This proves that Miranda cared about these people, she simply places the objectives first at all times.

In conclusion, Miranda cared a lot about Niket. However, Oriana was simply more important.

Modifié par MisterJB, 12 février 2012 - 02:26 .

[shepard1038]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

I'm partial to the idea of  Shepard "disappearing" after the end of ME3 to go and work alongside Miranda and her STG-like organization.

This is how I headcanon my main Shepard.

Miranda takes TIM's old mantle as well as heads the scientific divisions, and Shepard leads the actual army, with Jacob and Enzo assisting. Shepard also acts as an advisor to Miranda, when the time calls for his input.

i don't think at the end Cerberus will exist.

[MisterJB]

Jynthor wrote...
No I'm saying if Shepard survives he would be a legendary war hero and the media would NEVER leave him alone.
Might be best to give him a heroic death.

The problem with Grissom was that after becoming famous, all he wanted was to be left alone.
My Shepard would take advantage of his fame to influence important decisions, either made by politicians or corporates, for the good of humanity.

[AgitatedLemon]

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

I'm partial to the idea of  Shepard "disappearing" after the end of ME3 to go and work alongside Miranda and her STG-like organization.

This is how I headcanon my main Shepard.

Miranda takes TIM's old mantle as well as heads the scientific divisions, and Shepard leads the actual army, with Jacob and Enzo assisting. Shepard also acts as an advisor to Miranda, when the time calls for his input.

i don't think at the end Cerberus will exist.

Maybe not necessarily Cerberus, but just an STG-like organization

[MisterJB]

The real problem with the Paragon Interrupt in Miranda's LM is that they are relying entirely on Niket having a change of heart which most certainly happened because he had a gun pointed at him.
What will happen if he decides to run to Mr.Lawson the next time he feels hungry?

Modifié par MisterJB, 12 février 2012 - 02:32 .

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

Kai Leng will share his cereal with him

[shepard1038]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

I'm partial to the idea of  Shepard "disappearing" after the end of ME3 to go and work alongside Miranda and her STG-like organization.

This is how I headcanon my main Shepard.

Miranda takes TIM's old mantle as well as heads the scientific divisions, and Shepard leads the actual army, with Jacob and Enzo assisting. Shepard also acts as an advisor to Miranda, when the time calls for his input.

i don't think at the end Cerberus will exist.

Maybe not necessarily Cerberus, but just an STG-like organization

I see it  at as Shepard becomes: A human council or Admiral and Miranda helps Shepard rebuild humanity as
a superpower and advance humanity.

[AgitatedLemon]

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

I'm partial to the idea of  Shepard "disappearing" after the end of ME3 to go and work alongside Miranda and her STG-like organization.

This is how I headcanon my main Shepard.

Miranda takes TIM's old mantle as well as heads the scientific divisions, and Shepard leads the actual army, with Jacob and Enzo assisting. Shepard also acts as an advisor to Miranda, when the time calls for his input.

i don't think at the end Cerberus will exist.

Maybe not necessarily Cerberus, but just an STG-like organization

I see it  at as Shepard becomes: A human council or Admiral and Miranda helps Shepard rebuild humanity as
a superpower and advance humanity.

Dear God no. My Shepard would rather die than become a white collar criminal politician. An Admiral, maybe, but he's more comfortable out on the frontlines, not behind a desk. He's content with his position as Lt. Commander.

[shepard1038]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

I'm partial to the idea of  Shepard "disappearing" after the end of ME3 to go and work alongside Miranda and her STG-like organization.

This is how I headcanon my main Shepard.

Miranda takes TIM's old mantle as well as heads the scientific divisions, and Shepard leads the actual army, with Jacob and Enzo assisting. Shepard also acts as an advisor to Miranda, when the time calls for his input.

i don't think at the end Cerberus will exist.

Maybe not necessarily Cerberus, but just an STG-like organization

I see it  at as Shepard becomes: A human council or Admiral and Miranda helps Shepard rebuild humanity as
a superpower and advance humanity.

Dear God no. My Shepard would rather die than become a white collar criminal politician. An Admiral, maybe, but he's more comfortable out on the frontlines, not behind a desk. He's content with his position as Lt. Commander.

Don't you prefer Admiral Shepard

[Dr. Doctor]

The Salarians have the STG, the Council has the Spectres, the Asari have their Commandos, but the Alliance doesn't have a group that looks out for human interests. Hopefully Liara's  line about a Shepard who romanced Miranda "fighting for the future of humanity" will come to pass.

[jtav]

Matt's not going to disappear from the public eye, but he'll only put on his "Shepard" persona if Miranda needs him or he thinks it'll help biotics in general. Other than that, he's an artist and not a soldier.

[AgitatedLemon]

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

I'm partial to the idea of  Shepard "disappearing" after the end of ME3 to go and work alongside Miranda and her STG-like organization.

This is how I headcanon my main Shepard.

Miranda takes TIM's old mantle as well as heads the scientific divisions, and Shepard leads the actual army, with Jacob and Enzo assisting. Shepard also acts as an advisor to Miranda, when the time calls for his input.

i don't think at the end Cerberus will exist.

Maybe not necessarily Cerberus, but just an STG-like organization

I see it  at as Shepard becomes: A human council or Admiral and Miranda helps Shepard rebuild humanity as
a superpower and advance humanity.

Dear God no. My Shepard would rather die than become a white collar criminal politician. An Admiral, maybe, but he's more comfortable out on the frontlines, not behind a desk. He's content with his position as Lt. Commander.

Don't you prefer Admiral Shepard

Not really. My Shepard (I guess I'll name him... Dominic) doesn't like the beaurocratic crap that is admiralty. Again, as long as he's a soldier, he prefers to lead his men from the frontlines, not in the safety of a building 6 miles behind the battle. He believes that your troops will win more and die less if you're there to inspire and lead them personally, instead of just saying "Go here and do this". He took down Saren, the Collectors, and the Reapers with that thought, so it's serving him well so far. After Shepard retires from the military (He has 11 years of service on his belt), he'll go and assist Miranda in her organization. In his spare time, he's a musician and an engineer, but when Miranda needs him, or when he's about to undergo a mission, he's 100% soldier (Technically, Sentinel, but you get the idea) and doesn't mess around.

[AgitatedLemon]

Somehow made a double post (Even though I only clicked "submit" once).

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 12 février 2012 - 02:57 .

[CrutchCricket]

Well I don't feel like going through backpages this time around, but if you're still arguing comparisons between Miranda and Sarah I will chip in that android has it all wrong. Being cold is lacking in emotion, passion or enthusiasm, being dispassionate.

Synoyms: indifferent, uninvolved, cool, unconcerned, imperturbable. 5.  apathetic, unsympathetic, unfeeling, heartless, polite, formal, reserved, unfriendly, inimical, hostile

So we have more on Sarah but not enough on Miranda to accurately compare which is colder. Not to mention that such an overall assesment is likely to be flawed anyway. It would be better to take a case by case approach (like killing Niket).

Speaking of which I think I'll do that now.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I am REALLY Hoping to see Miri inflict THIS MUCH Damage towards her enemies with her Weapons!



OH!

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 12 février 2012 - 03:30 .

[AgitatedLemon]

If she still has Warp, I'd rather see the damage THAT does.

It's supposed to tear people apart at the molecular level. I demand more blood shed.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 12 février 2012 - 03:34 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

^ Yeah that too, AND Slam. Hopefully the Enemies' bodies will LITERALLY get Squashed/Smashed on the floor.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 12 février 2012 - 03:35 .

[Exia570]

I love and absolutely approve this thread!!! I love miranda (and legion, hes my bro)...we need to get them back!!!

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

^ Welcome.