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Exia570 wrote...

I love and absolutely approve this thread!!! I love miranda (and legion, hes my bro)...we need to get them back!!!


Welcome to the madhouse.

Legion is doing well in ME3, from what I've heard.

Miranda... Let's not get into that.

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Is anyone still kind of in denial? I mean, Miranda's stuff in the leak is so terrible that I can't quite believe it. She could be dead on the SM and the only thing that changes is that her personal demons are unbattled and Oriana actually gets a personality.

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Question for those that read the leaks: Why do you hate Miranda's role in ME3? I'm not looking for specific spoilers, but rather a general answer that doesn't reveal too much. Is it just because she is not a permanent squadmate, or is there more to it than that? Doing things that are out of character, or an unavoidable 'bad' ending for the character?

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jtav wrote...

Is anyone still kind of in denial.


Nope.

That said, I'd probably want to go on less of a killing spree if I was in denial.

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jtav wrote...

Is anyone still kind of in denial? I mean, Miranda's stuff in the leak is so terrible that I can't quite believe it. She could be dead on the SM and the only thing that changes is that her personal demons are unbattled and Oriana actually gets a personality.


Welcome to the land of Bioware, where logic is f*cked up its ass and the little children are excessively pampered. Were you seriously expecting better?

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

Exia570 wrote...

I love and absolutely approve this thread!!! I love miranda (and legion, hes my bro)...we need to get them back!!!


Welcome to the madhouse.

Legion is doing well in ME3, from what I've heard.

Miranda... Let's not get into that.

Nice way to introduce people to the threadImage IPB

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Han Shot First wrote...

Question for those that read the leaks: Why do you hate Miranda's role in ME3? I'm not looking for specific spoilers, but rather a general answer that doesn't reveal too much. Is it just because she is not a permanent squadmate, or is there more to it than that? Doing things that are out of character, or an unavoidable 'bad' ending for the character?


It isn't because of any of these points in particular (though I am bitter that she isn't a squad mate).

The general consensus seems to be that it's short, relatively low quality, and as far as we know, Miranda doesn't have an end game contribution. Other people of course have their own other reasons.

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shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Exia570 wrote...

I love and absolutely approve this thread!!! I love miranda (and legion, hes my bro)...we need to get them back!!!


Welcome to the madhouse.

Legion is doing well in ME3, from what I've heard.

Miranda... Let's not get into that.

Nice way to introduce people to the threadImage IPB


I'm honest, no matter how brutal.

I'm not going to sugar coat something genuinely terrible.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Exia570 wrote...

I love and absolutely approve this thread!!! I love miranda (and legion, hes my bro)...we need to get them back!!!


Welcome to the madhouse.

Legion is doing well in ME3, from what I've heard.

Miranda... Let's not get into that.

Nice way to introduce people to the threadImage IPB


I'm honest, no matter how brutal.

I'm not going to sugar coat something genuinely terrible.

Not everyone wants to whine and fight.Image IPB

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Han Shot First wrote...

Question for those that read the leaks: Why do you hate Miranda's role in ME3? I'm not looking for specific spoilers, but rather a general answer that doesn't reveal too much. Is it just because she is not a permanent squadmate, or is there more to it than that? Doing things that are out of character, or an unavoidable 'bad' ending for the character?


That's because her role was compromized in order to cater to the rabid, wailing children. And when I say compromized, I mean really badly compromized. As in her character development was almost completely abandoned by the alienwanking devs just because she wasn't an alien (and by extension, a fan favorite). And don't even get me started on how little time she gets in game. She's not a squaddie, fine. But THIS?!

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JosephDucreux wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Question for those that read the leaks: Why do you hate Miranda's role in ME3? I'm not looking for specific spoilers, but rather a general answer that doesn't reveal too much. Is it just because she is not a permanent squadmate, or is there more to it than that? Doing things that are out of character, or an unavoidable 'bad' ending for the character?


That's because her role was compromized in order to cater to the rabid, wailing children. And when I say compromized, I mean really badly compromized. As in her character development was almost completely abandoned by the alienwanking devs just because she wasn't an alien (and by extension, a fan favorite). And don't even get me started how how little time she gets in game. She's not a squaddie, fine. But THIS?!

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Han Shot First wrote...

Question for those that read the leaks: Why do you hate Miranda's role in ME3? I'm not looking for specific spoilers, but rather a general answer that doesn't reveal too much. Is it just because she is not a permanent squadmate, or is there more to it than that? Doing things that are out of character, or an unavoidable 'bad' ending for the character?


I have hardly read anything. If I have read more, I do not remember. Even if I did remember, I still will not hate Miri's role. No matter how Long or Short Her Role is, every Moment with Miri will be worth it, because she is my LI, and I <3 her.:wub:


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shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Exia570 wrote...

I love and absolutely approve this thread!!! I love miranda (and legion, hes my bro)...we need to get them back!!!


Welcome to the madhouse.

Legion is doing well in ME3, from what I've heard.

Miranda... Let's not get into that.

Nice way to introduce people to the threadImage IPB


I'm honest, no matter how brutal.

I'm not going to sugar coat something genuinely terrible.

Not everyone wants to whine and fight.Image IPB


Nobody was doing either.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Exia570 wrote...

I love and absolutely approve this thread!!! I love miranda (and legion, hes my bro)...we need to get them back!!!


Welcome to the madhouse.

Legion is doing well in ME3, from what I've heard.

Miranda... Let's not get into that.

Nice way to introduce people to the threadImage IPB


I'm honest, no matter how brutal.

I'm not going to sugar coat something genuinely terrible.

Not everyone wants to whine and fight.Image IPB


Nobody was doing either.

Can't we just wait for the Game to come out.

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There's an entire thread dedicated to bashing Kaidan, Jacob, Miranda and Ashley just a few threads down. Tell them to stop.

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One of my favorite parts of the game.

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  • Excessive focus or Oriana to the exclusion of other aspects of her personality, particularly her belief in human advancement
  • Incidental connection to the Cerberus plot
  • She never reflects on her time with Cerberus or confronts TIM on screen
  • No unique contribution to the war effort. What she does can be done by at least two others, including Oriana if she's dead
I want to be absolutely clear that I think the writing is generally fantastic and has given me a new appreciation for several characters. Which makes the poor quality of Miranda's role a very bitter pill to swallow.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Question for those that read the leaks: Why do you hate Miranda's role in ME3? I'm not looking for specific spoilers, but rather a general answer that doesn't reveal too much. Is it just because she is not a permanent squadmate, or is there more to it than that? Doing things that are out of character, or an unavoidable 'bad' ending for the character?


It isn't because of any of these points in particular (though I am bitter that she isn't a squad mate).

The general consensus seems to be that it's short, relatively low quality, and as far as we know, Miranda doesn't have an end game contribution. Other people of course have their own other reasons.


Thanks!

Odd that she would get a short role, even if not a squadmate. With as big of a role as Cerberus is supposedly playing in the plot of Mass Effect 3, you think she'd more tied into that.



I want to be absolutely clear that I think the writing is generally fantastic and has given me a new appreciation for several characters. Which makes the poor quality of Miranda's role a very bitter pill to swallow.


Which characters did you end up coming away with a better appreciation for because of their writing?

Modifié par Han Shot First, 12 février 2012 - 03:54 .


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Han Shot First wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Question for those that read the leaks: Why do you hate Miranda's role in ME3? I'm not looking for specific spoilers, but rather a general answer that doesn't reveal too much. Is it just because she is not a permanent squadmate, or is there more to it than that? Doing things that are out of character, or an unavoidable 'bad' ending for the character?


It isn't because of any of these points in particular (though I am bitter that she isn't a squad mate).

The general consensus seems to be that it's short, relatively low quality, and as far as we know, Miranda doesn't have an end game contribution. Other people of course have their own other reasons.


Thanks!

Odd that she would get a short role, even if not a squadmate. With as big of a role as Cerberus is supposedly playing in the plot of Mass Effect 3, you think she'd more tied into that.



I want to be absolutely clear that I think the writing is generally fantastic and has given me a new appreciation for several characters. Which makes the poor quality of Miranda's role a very bitter pill to swallow.


Which characters did you end up coming away with a better appreciation for because of their writing?


Especially considering she's, y'know, TIM's former 2IC.

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Unless it was cut, if Miranda is dead *spoiler location* can't be turned into a refugee camp.
I am not claiming I will be happy if this is It, of course.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

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One of my favorite parts of the game.

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from what i seem to get is that most ME2 non ME1 chacters just get a camo apperance if they servived the SM in ME2. They sort of had to keep there aparance short and really uneventful to the grander scheme of things.

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There's no reference to that in the big leak and it's not exactly on the level of the other contributions.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

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There's an entire thread dedicated to bashing Kaidan, Jacob, Miranda and Ashley just a few threads down. Tell them to stop.

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shepard1038 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

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One of my favorite parts of the game.

That doesn't happen in the Game.Image IPB


It does in ME2. Have you never romanced Miranda?