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[AgitatedLemon]

What did you think of the finale?



She demands to know.

[android654]

ClanMacNab wrote...

android654 wrote...

...OT. I finished Chuck, and OH MY GOD! That show was a chore towards the end. Really bad writing the closer it got towards the end with the exception of Casey, he was solid throughout, and Sarah got a bit of a redemption towards the end of season 5. I didn't like how they gave her a chance to end that really forced relationship and lasooed her back in at the end.

Agreed re: season 5. The Morgan intersect experience was especially painful for me.

Sarah fell for Chuck after the second episode (very obvious), and hard to avoid where that was going - the regular (but extraordinary) guy wins the amazing babe (you can't believe this??). I saw nothing forced about it, with the possible exception of Chucks' inability to to grow beyond his wild eyed emotions. Interesting parallels...

Back to our regular scheduled program:

In season 1 and 2, it was... cute. Chuck trying really hard to earn her favor, and Sarah  fighting to stay away. Once they started dating, after Shaw, it went down hill. Chuck became whiny and needy, very selfish and focused only on his "love" for Sarah. There were somany points where you could see in her face, as well as in the writing, that she was becoming progressively suffocated by him. His overbaring nature in the end really made me hate his character. Before he was a superspy, he was a better person, he was more brave, and was a lot more likeable. After the intersect upgraded  and the physical atributes kicked in he became an overconfident douche, and I kept hoping Bryce was still alive somewhere and would come back and Whisk Sarah and Casey away.

Oh, involving, his sister, her husband, Casey's daughter, his ex-fiance, Chuck's mom, Morgan, Awesome, Jeff and Lester all in the spy game was too corny to swallow too. I see why it was forced off the air. They should've never made the attempt to make Chuck a permanent spy.

[android654]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

What did you think of the finale?



She demands to know.

It started good but ended bad. When they started with the house and talking about babies in the middle of the season, I thought, "Well that was dumb, where are they going to be able to take it now?" Then through the magic of the intersect and her speech about loving him but not feeling it, I thought it was a window they gave her to give the show a more unique ending. Instead they buckled like a belt and followed the cliche by uniting them again over a beach conversation.

[Kabraxal]

android654 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

What did you think of the finale?



She demands to know.

It started good but ended bad. When they started with the house and talking about babies in the middle of the season, I thought, "Well that was dumb, where are they going to be able to take it now?" Then through the magic of the intersect and her speech about loving him but not feeling it, I thought it was a window they gave her to give the show a more unique ending. Instead they buckled like a belt and followed the cliche by uniting them again over a beach conversation.

If they had ended it with her breaking it off.... that  would have been the most pathetically bad ending ever...

[ClanMacNab]

android654 wrote...

ClanMacNab wrote...

android654 wrote...

...OT. I finished Chuck, and OH MY GOD! That show was a chore towards the end. Really bad writing the closer it got towards the end with the exception of Casey, he was solid throughout, and Sarah got a bit of a redemption towards the end of season 5. I didn't like how they gave her a chance to end that really forced relationship and lasooed her back in at the end.

Agreed re: season 5. The Morgan intersect experience was especially painful for me.

Sarah fell for Chuck after the second episode (very obvious), and hard to avoid where that was going - the regular (but extraordinary) guy wins the amazing babe (you can't believe this??). I saw nothing forced about it, with the possible exception of Chucks' inability to to grow beyond his wild eyed emotions. Interesting parallels...

Back to our regular scheduled program:

In season 1 and 2, it was... cute. Chuck trying really hard to earn her favor, and Sarah  fighting to stay away. Once they started dating, after Shaw, it went down hill. Chuck became whiny and needy, very selfish and focused only on his "love" for Sarah. There were somany points where you could see in her face, as well as in the writing, that she was becoming progressively suffocated by him. His overbaring nature in the end really made me hate his character. Before he was a superspy, he was a better person, he was more brave, and was a lot more likeable. After the intersect upgraded  and the physical atributes kicked in he became an overconfident douche, and I kept hoping Bryce was still alive somewhere and would come back and Whisk Sarah and Casey away.

Oh, involving, his sister, her husband, Casey's daughter, his ex-fiance, Chuck's mom, Morgan, Awesome, Jeff and Lester all in the spy game was too corny to swallow too. I see why it was forced off the air. They should've never made the attempt to make Chuck a permanent spy.

Chuck should have never gone so far as to *want* to be a super spy, he should have run away with Sarah at the train station. Stupid move on his part, he shouldn't have listened to the ****** hollywood writers whispering into his ear.

[android654]

Kabraxal wrote...

android654 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

What did you think of the finale?



She demands to know.

It started good but ended bad. When they started with the house and talking about babies in the middle of the season, I thought, "Well that was dumb, where are they going to be able to take it now?" Then through the magic of the intersect and her speech about loving him but not feeling it, I thought it was a window they gave her to give the show a more unique ending. Instead they buckled like a belt and followed the cliche by uniting them again over a beach conversation.

If they had ended it with her breaking it off.... that  would have been the most pathetically bad ending ever...

I think bad would've been a C.I.A. spy/assassin who has no recollection of reforming herself around some guy, forcing herself to fit into a life she didn't feel like she fit into. But that's exactly what they did.

[android654]

ClanMacNab wrote...Chuck should have never gone so far as to *want* to be a super spy, he should have run away with Sarah at the train station. Stupid move on his part, he shouldn't have listened to the ****** hollywood writers whispering into his ear.

This is very true. I thought when she asked him to run away with her that it was like something out of a Tolstoy novel. This unbridled secret love, escaping all of their problems and the people trying to control their lives and be free in secret where ever they chose. To be honest, the fact that she forgave him after he chose living his nerd fantasy over her, that she would never forgive him for Prague. Then the writers forgot how betrayed she felt towards him after that. I honestly think its near impossible to come back from a falling out like that.

How many people would forgive you if you basically told them that you were going to choose working for someone, anyone, over being with them?

Modifié par android654, 16 février 2012 - 01:02 .

[ClanMacNab]

android654 wrote...

ClanMacNab wrote...Chuck should have never gone so far as to *want* to be a super spy, he should have run away with Sarah at the train station. Stupid move on his part, he shouldn't have listened to the ****** hollywood writers whispering into his ear.

This is very true. I thought when she asked him to run away with her that it was like something out of a Tolstoy novel. THis unbridled secret love, escaping all of thier problems and the people trying to control their lives and be free in secret where ever they chose. To be honest, the fact that she forgave him after he chose living his nerd fantasy over her, that she would never forgive him for Prague. Then the writers forgot how betrayed she felt towards him after that. I honestly think its near impossible to come back from a falling out like that.

How many people would forgive you if you basically toild them that you were going to choose working for someone, anyone, over being with them?

Yes. I knew that if I worked hard enough at it we would finally find some common ground. I was quite simply, astounded, at that stupid choice.

The simple truth is that Sarah longed for a life she never had an opportunity to have...in her own way, so does Miranda.

Modifié par ClanMacNab, 16 février 2012 - 01:12 .

[ClanMacNab]

zork.

Modifié par ClanMacNab, 16 février 2012 - 01:13 .

[android654]

ClanMacNab wrote...

android654 wrote...

ClanMacNab wrote...Chuck should have never gone so far as to *want* to be a super spy, he should have run away with Sarah at the train station. Stupid move on his part, he shouldn't have listened to the ****** hollywood writers whispering into his ear.

This is very true. I thought when she asked him to run away with her that it was like something out of a Tolstoy novel. THis unbridled secret love, escaping all of thier problems and the people trying to control their lives and be free in secret where ever they chose. To be honest, the fact that she forgave him after he chose living his nerd fantasy over her, that she would never forgive him for Prague. Then the writers forgot how betrayed she felt towards him after that. I honestly think its near impossible to come back from a falling out like that.

How many people would forgive you if you basically toild them that you were going to choose working for someone, anyone, over being with them?

Yes. I knew that if I worked hard enough at it we would finally find some common ground. I was quite simply, astounded, at that stupid choice.

It was a bad move on the writers part. If anything it would be more interesting for the story as well if they left Prague together and had to dodge the C.I.A. and Casey for a season. It's even worse writing when they ignored the feelings they gave their own character at the end of a story arc. Sarah felt betrayed and then magically forgives him, and she doesn't even feel it when he suggest they stop being spies after it was her decision two seasons ago.

I'm sure we agree on more than that... Umm... Do you like Miranda?

[Dr. Doctor]

I'm partial to the first half of Chuck seaon 4, partially because Timothy Dalton is one of the best villains the show had. The guy might be a morally ambiguous leader of a criminal organization but he genuinely loves Frost.

[android654]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

I'm partial to the first half of Chuck seaon 4, partially because Timothy Dalton is one of the best villains the show had. The guy might be a morally ambiguous leader of a criminal organization but he genuinely loves Frost.

Also, once his intersect program is removed, he becomes one of the few characters in television history, and recently, that was purely innocent. I thought it was hilariously childish when he walks into Casey's apartment.

Volkoff:*Sheepishly* Is he still in charge? (Points to picture of Reagan)
Casey: *Grunts* You wish!

[JeffZero]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

What did you think of the finale?



She demands to know.

LOL.

[Kabraxal]

android654 wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

android654 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

What did you think of the finale?



She demands to know.

It started good but ended bad. When they started with the house and talking about babies in the middle of the season, I thought, "Well that was dumb, where are they going to be able to take it now?" Then through the magic of the intersect and her speech about loving him but not feeling it, I thought it was a window they gave her to give the show a more unique ending. Instead they buckled like a belt and followed the cliche by uniting them again over a beach conversation.

If they had ended it with her breaking it off.... that  would have been the most pathetically bad ending ever...

I think bad would've been a C.I.A. spy/assassin who has no recollection of reforming herself around some guy, forcing herself to fit into a life she didn't feel like she fit into. But that's exactly what they did.

They were implying that she was regaining her memory at various points.  

[android654]

Kabraxal wrote...

android654 wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

android654 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

What did you think of the finale?



She demands to know.

It started good but ended bad. When they started with the house and talking about babies in the middle of the season, I thought, "Well that was dumb, where are they going to be able to take it now?" Then through the magic of the intersect and her speech about loving him but not feeling it, I thought it was a window they gave her to give the show a more unique ending. Instead they buckled like a belt and followed the cliche by uniting them again over a beach conversation.

If they had ended it with her breaking it off.... that  would have been the most pathetically bad ending ever...

I think bad would've been a C.I.A. spy/assassin who has no recollection of reforming herself around some guy, forcing herself to fit into a life she didn't feel like she fit into. But that's exactly what they did.

They were implying that she was regaining her memory at various points.  

Doesn't make it any less cheap. Chuck betrayed her in a very big way, and for someone like Sarah who trusts no one to be betrayed by the first person she has trusted since her father makes thier relationship questionable. Then once she becomes that same person again, they rope her back in, in a very cheap way.

[ClanMacNab]

android654 wrote...

ClanMacNab wrote...

android654 wrote...

ClanMacNab wrote...Chuck should have never gone so far as to *want* to be a super spy, he should have run away with Sarah at the train station. Stupid move on his part, he shouldn't have listened to the ****** hollywood writers whispering into his ear.

This is very true. I thought when she asked him to run away with her that it was like something out of a Tolstoy novel. THis unbridled secret love, escaping all of thier problems and the people trying to control their lives and be free in secret where ever they chose. To be honest, the fact that she forgave him after he chose living his nerd fantasy over her, that she would never forgive him for Prague. Then the writers forgot how betrayed she felt towards him after that. I honestly think its near impossible to come back from a falling out like that.

How many people would forgive you if you basically toild them that you were going to choose working for someone, anyone, over being with them?

Yes. I knew that if I worked hard enough at it we would finally find some common ground. I was quite simply, astounded, at that stupid choice.

It was a bad move on the writers part. If anything it would be more interesting for the story as well if they left Prague together and had to dodge the C.I.A. and Casey for a season. It's even worse writing when they ignored the feelings they gave their own character at the end of a story arc. Sarah felt betrayed and then magically forgives him, and she doesn't even feel it when he suggest they stop being spies after it was her decision two seasons ago.

I'm sure we agree on more than that... Umm... Do you like Miranda?

Yes, in fact I more than like Miranda's character...but, please, don't call me vociferous. Simply stated, there is much to love about Miranda. If they don't give those who see it more, it's a serious mistake in my less than humble opinion.

[ClanMacNab]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

I'm partial to the first half of Chuck seaon 4, partially because Timothy Dalton is one of the best villains the show had. The guy might be a morally ambiguous leader of a criminal organization but he genuinely loves Frost.

Yes. But the funny part of that is his not knowing the origins of his affection.

[AgitatedLemon]

ClanMacNab wrote...

Yes, in fact I more than like Miranda's character...but, please, don't call me vociferous. Simply stated, there is much to love about Miranda. If they don't give those who see it more, it's a serious mistake in my less than humble opinion.

Watch them not.

[android654]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ClanMacNab wrote...

Yes, in fact I more than like Miranda's character...but, please, don't call me vociferous. Simply stated, there is much to love about Miranda. If they don't give those who see it more, it's a serious mistake in my less than humble opinion.

Watch them not.

The least we can hope for is that they don't ruin her like they ruined Walker.

[AgitatedLemon]

android654 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ClanMacNab wrote...

Yes, in fact I more than like Miranda's character...but, please, don't call me vociferous. Simply stated, there is much to love about Miranda. If they don't give those who see it more, it's a serious mistake in my less than humble opinion.

Watch them not.

The least we can hope for is that they don't ruin her like they ruined Walker.

I don't watch Chuck, so...

Yes

[android654]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

android654 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ClanMacNab wrote...

Yes, in fact I more than like Miranda's character...but, please, don't call me vociferous. Simply stated, there is much to love about Miranda. If they don't give those who see it more, it's a serious mistake in my less than humble opinion.

Watch them not.

The least we can hope for is that they don't ruin her like they ruined Walker.

I don't watch Chuck, so...

Yes

Well you didn't miss much towards the end. Lets just say they did to Sarah what they did to Jack.

[AgitatedLemon]

android654 wrote...

Well you didn't miss much towards the end. Lets just say they did to Sarah what they did to Jack.

So they turned her into a completely different person, gotcha.

To move onto a happier note...



Finding hand-drawn fanart of Miranda that actually looks like Miranda is a chore in and of itself.

[ne0x]

does everyone like miranda face,it's only me who thinks she need plastic correction?Her body is pretty ,but i think they should give it more female look to it,just can't imagine perfect woman with that face(.Just imo.

[sito30]

her eyes are uneven...

[android654]

ne0x wrote...

does everyone like miranda face,it's only me who thinks she need plastic correction?Her body is pretty ,but i think they should give it more female look to it,just can't imagine perfect woman with that face(.Just imo.

I imagine it's hard people believing that you have your face.

I think she looks just fine. Not nearly as obsessed with her as other people who like her, but her face is just fine.