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[Totally Not Swaggacide]

Nice art Luis

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

You probably notice that the Cerberus Symbol is missing. Well when I remembered the symbol, I decided NOT to add it as an expression of Symbolism. In other words, it symbolizes Miri's resignation from Cerberus in my ME2 playthroughs and my ME3 experience.

I just wish she wasn't stuck with the White Outfit in ME3.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 21 février 2012 - 03:54 .

[The Tesla Effect]

Roxpanda1690 wrote...

The Tesla Effect wrote...

Roxpanda1690 wrote...

The Tesla Effect wrote...

Roxpanda1690 wrote...

Speaking of Jack damn those tattoos are hard for me to draw any how I could use some idea's I'm doing Miranda art and I can't seem to have a concept any one care to throw idea's at me I don't wan't another pin up pick i need a topic -.-

Do a Miranda art that features all of her important life events (the way she was born, the time she spent living with her father, her escape, joining cerberus, saving Oriana, project Lazarus, Shepard's and Miri's time together, suicide mission and the main picture being her curent status in ME3 (not the leaked one, something way better)).

O.o oh wow never thought of that for reason's it's a lot >.> but I like a challenge you are on Sir or Ma'am!
Going to take while but that is an Amazing suggestion and you never see it either or at least from what I know.

Its Sir, but you dont need to do all of thouse suggestion if its to much. Just pick one that you would like.

Nah I think it would be cooler to have Comic panels of her life each displaying one of those and maybe have a current standing in the center >.>

I'm ispired now XD

You should look  epantiras on devianART, she made a awesome comic about Jack pre-ME2 life (that comic actually made me care about Jack and her personality). So if you would like to make a Miranda's life comic, thats one way to make it.

Modifié par The Tesla Effect, 21 février 2012 - 03:56 .

[Roxpanda1690]

android654 wrote...

Roxpanda1690 wrote...
Same as my account name here I just don't post anything as I used to have another account that was hacked by someone and the stole all my arts 8D though I was a kid then and I like to believe I've improved since then. I always debate if a should submit stuff but I've been fine just posting of forums and selling art on the street and with friends

You should submit your work. Even if nothing comes of it, it wouldn't hurt to have opinions from other critics on your work.

No your right it wouldn't hurt but I'm like every artist slightly selfconcious of my work and after my stuff being lost and DA did nothing I've come to dislike the site

[schemata]

MisterJB wrote...

android654 wrote...

Do you think there's room for Miranda's father to seek some degree of repentance for how he raised his daughter?

I think it wouldn't be too hard to get some of the fans to forgive him. Jtav has actually brushed the issue on many of her stories. Adversity breeds strength and all of that.
Miranda herself would probrably never be able to forgive him, though. It's easy for us to sit confortably on our chairs and defend him by saying that his treatment of her is one the reasons Miranda is so amazing but she is the one who actually lived those horrors.

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

Do you think Miranda prefers Renegade or Paragon Shepard?

Both extremes are unsuited for her. A Paragade or Renegon Shepard would be better.

I was thinking her fathers story was much much more open than that.  I think theres two points which stem why I feel this way. One, Miranda was very vague about the treatment from her Father. We basically know he pushed her very hard.  Things like being egomanical, or wanting a dynasty and not a daughter, don't really register for me. As that's miris opinion, and even though she's masterful at having a clear objective analysis; I think it being her own father- she's too close to the situation to be able to encompass it.

Two. We haven't heard his side, well only a few of us havent heard his side of the story. (havent seen the leaks) so Im kinda of waiting to get a better picture of what was happening there.

As far as a paragon or renegade Miranda goes; and which is better- I believe its almost a trick question.  Paragon shep with miranda, shepard serves as gravitational center with Miri eventually being distorted and shaped to his worldview whereas the renegade shep, plays out as its mirror image. With Miri being the center, and shep eventually changing his worldview to miris.

[Roxpanda1690]

The Tesla Effect wrote...

Roxpanda1690 wrote...

The Tesla Effect wrote...

Roxpanda1690 wrote...

The Tesla Effect wrote...

Roxpanda1690 wrote...

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Do a Miranda art that features all of her important life events (the way she was born, the time she spent living with her father, her escape, joining cerberus, saving Oriana, project Lazarus, Shepard's and Miri's time together, suicide mission and the main picture being her curent status in ME3 (not the leaked one, something way better)).

O.o oh wow never thought of that for reason's it's a lot >.> but I like a challenge you are on Sir or Ma'am!
Going to take while but that is an Amazing suggestion and you never see it either or at least from what I know.

Its Sir, but you dont need to do all of thouse suggestion if its to much. Just pick one that you would like.

Nah I think it would be cooler to have Comic panels of her life each displaying one of those and maybe have a current standing in the center >.>

I'm ispired now XD

You should look  epantiras on devianART, she made a awesome comic about Jack pre-ME2 life (that comic actually made me care about Jack and her personality). So if you would like to make a Miranda's life comic, thats one way to make it.

Well Though I did like her Comic I think I might to one large page rather then do a full story even though I agree epantiras did and amazing job on Jacks backstory putting what she believes happened from what the character states in the game

[jtav]

I couldn't forgive him. He abused Miranda and likely did worse to her sisters. Any complexity I've given him is in the interest of creating a good villain.

[android654]

jtav wrote...

I couldn't forgive him. He abused Miranda and likely did worse to her sisters. Any complexity I've given him is in the interest of creating a good villain.

But people aren't one dimensional. Well, interesting people aren't. There has to be more to who he is as a person above wanting to make his perfect frankendaughter. Also, seeking penance doesn't mean they'll receive it.

Modifié par android654, 21 février 2012 - 04:18 .

[Dr. Doctor]

I sort of want to get a little more of who Mr. Lawson is as a character. He strikes me as sort of vain and egotistical, he's intelligent I picture him siding with Cerberus for the same reasons as Miranda. He wants to help advance the cause of humanity in the galaxy, but he isn't doing out of idealisim, he's doing it so that he can leave his mark on history. 

When I picture him in my head I just see David Xanatos from Gargoyles.

[schemata]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

I sort of want to get a little more of who Mr. Lawson is as a character. He strikes me as sort of vain and egotistical, he's intelligent I picture him siding with Cerberus for the same reasons as Miranda. He wants to help advance the cause of humanity in the galaxy, but he isn't doing out of idealisim, he's doing it so that he can leave his mark on history. 

When I picture him in my head I just see David Xanatos from Gargoyles.

Do you think miranda is siding with cerberus out of idealism?

[Roxpanda1690]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

I sort of want to get a little more of who Mr. Lawson is as a character. He strikes me as sort of vain and egotistical, he's intelligent I picture him siding with Cerberus for the same reasons as Miranda. He wants to help advance the cause of humanity in the galaxy, but he isn't doing out of idealisim, he's doing it so that he can leave his mark on history. 

When I picture him in my head I just see David Xanatos from Gargoyles.

Well Mr. Lawson does seem like the Narcissistic type from what where told about him. The Dude Genetically Engineers A Prodigy not a child and none the less to some manner a female version of himself, perfect in every way.

I guess I can see David Xanatos character Similar to Mr. Lawson

[JosephDucreux]

From what I can gather, Mr Lawson is a smart man with an overblown ego and a very big God-complex. I think he's a malignant narcissist, but I'm not 100% sure about that.

Modifié par JosephDucreux, 21 février 2012 - 05:14 .

[Dr. Doctor]

schemata wrote...

Do you think miranda is siding with Cerberus out of idealism?

Sort of. I think it's because Cerberus gives her a purpose, a way to apply her gifts for the benefit of humanity instead of a way to stoke her father's ego. She believes that Cerberus is actively trying to advance the cause of the human race in the galaxy, she'll actually disdain Shepard's decision to activate Legion saying that he should turn it on "for the benefit of humanity, not your damned curiosity".

[FifthFeedom729]

Is his name Mr. Lawson i thought Lawson was a last name Miranda made up after she left him.

[Roxpanda1690]

FifthFeedom729 wrote...

Is his name Mr. Lawson i thought Lawson was a last name Miranda made up after she left him.

I don't think that's ever determined could could not be from what I understand

[FifthFeedom729]

Roxpanda1690 wrote...

FifthFeedom729 wrote...

Is his name Mr. Lawson i thought Lawson was a last name Miranda made up after she left him.

I don't think that's ever determined could could not be from what I understand

I kinda always just figured his last name was either Eldfell or Ashland based on the shadow broker files
she looked up the company
Extranet Message: News summary for Eldfell-Ashland Energy, and I can't think of any other reason she would be interested in the company. And her father is a business man.

[MisterJB]

Sadly, according to the leaked script, Miranda's family name really is Lawson.
Bioware seems to think we are not intelligent enough to understand the need for a pseudonym in her line of work. Not to mention the fact that she is hiding.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

BW really did screw us over.

[Roxpanda1690]

FifthFeedom729 wrote...

Roxpanda1690 wrote...

FifthFeedom729 wrote...

Is his name Mr. Lawson i thought Lawson was a last name Miranda made up after she left him.

I don't think that's ever determined could could not be from what I understand

I kinda always just figured his last name was either Eldfell or Ashland based on the shadow broker files
she looked up the company
Extranet Message: News summary for Eldfell-Ashland Energy, and I can't think of any other reason she would be interested in the company. And her father is a business man.

Maybe it is last time I looked at the Shadow broker file was while ago but If it's there then I may as well be and maybe it was established in one of the comic as well. Plus it makes sence, through it was never really stated either way they may shed light on it in ME3.

You maybe right though

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

Stop the god damn whining for once

[Skullheart]

MisterJB wrote...

Sadly, according to the leaked script, Miranda's family name really is Lawson.
Bioware seems to think we are not intelligent enough to understand the need for a pseudonym in her line of work. Not to mention the fact that she is hiding.

We are intelligent. It's sad we can't say the same for their writers, who only focused in some characters and dcsided to sideline and poorly write others.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I don't care how, but BioWare must know that they let us down. I hope they're happy.

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

Stop whining or at least until ME3 is out

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

No! I'm so sick of BioWare sitting behind their desks with their bags of cash not giving a crap that they let players down. All we're going to get is a cameo romance that's isn't acknowledged as a true romance.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 21 février 2012 - 06:07 .

[JosephDucreux]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

No! I'm so sick of BioWare sitting behind their desks with their bags of cash not giving a crap that they let players down. All we're going to get is a cameo romance that's isn't acknowledged as a true romance.

Calm down Luis, there's really no point in getting mad with them. As a matter of fact, just hit them where it hurts the most. Get Mass Effect 3, but don't pay a single cent. That's what I'll be doing.