Melrache wrote...
Oh this is funneh.
Critical Mission Failure
Haven't heard some of the dialogue choices myself though.
I don't think there will be a boss battle with him. He'll just be shot. It matters more to me what he says before he gets killed.Dr. Doctor wrote...
jtav wrote...
He scares me because he's what Miranda would be without compassion. The Mr. Lawson of the leak is too vile to be frightening.
What worries me is having a repeat of Magister Denarius from DA2. Hype him up as being this impressive villain, only to give him two dimensional characterization and a pathetic boss battle.
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Pfft. Clearly you never found yourself agreeing with some "black" villains. What you're describing seems kind of tame in comparison.jtav wrote...
I'd love it if Mr. Lawson were grayer. Not to excuse what he's done but because it makes him more frightening. Mustache-twirling N*zis are easy. But a man who you might actually find yourself agreeing with is scarier. What I did for Robert in Portrait was take Miranda's personality and twist it. He's sterile, so he decided to build a family. But he's very conscious of his duty to humanity. His daughter will be the savior of the human race. Everything he does goes toward that goal. He even loves Miranda, his brilliant darling girl. But he absolutely can't show it. I deliberately made him closed off in the same way Miranda is. But he has no idea when to stop. Locking your disabled kids in a nursing home so you don't have to bother with them is fine. So's crippling Miranda and nearly killing her. He scares me because he's what Miranda would be without compassion. The Mr. Lawson of the leak is too vile to be frightening.
Actually I would very much love it if he is evil.... but evil done right. I still cling to my dreams of Lawson being like Viktor from Underworld (and played by Bill Nighy). Of course it won't happen. But I have still have some time before that dream is shattered.Jynthor wrote...
I'm looking forward to meeting Mr Lawson, it should be an intriguing encounter. Well that is if BioWare doesn't pull a Cerberus. Sure he's rich and a real jerk but that doesn't mean he's evil... Right?
He doesn't have to as long as the presentation is done right.jtav wrote...
Wrong. There's a reason I referenced the N*zis. I got a little sick just reading his mission description. This guy has no redeeming traits in-game.
CrutchCricket wrote...
Actually I would very much love it if he is evil.... but evil done right. I still cling to my dreams of Lawson being like Viktor from Underworld (and played by Bill Nighy). Of course it won't happen. But I have still have some time before that dream is shattered.Jynthor wrote...
I'm looking forward to meeting Mr Lawson, it should be an intriguing encounter. Well that is if BioWare doesn't pull a Cerberus. Sure he's rich and a real jerk but that doesn't mean he's evil... Right?
Lost Northern wrote...
i'm asking myself a weird question...what does miranda when she wake up ???? what does the whole crew do when they wake up lol
For some reason I keep thinking of the Nostromo... everyone gets out of cryo pods in their undies and they all eat a giant meal.Lost Northern wrote...
i'm asking myself a weird question...what does miranda when she wake up ???? what does the whole crew do when they wake up lol
Maybe, but a complete monster is not interesting. If there is no doubt that he's best shot dead and his plans are best utterly forgotten, then it's a boring villain. At least in a story I'm supposed to take seriously. If the evil is the end and not a means to an end the evil of which is debatable, then the one perpetrating it is nothing more than an obstacle. Such a situation doesn't engage the mind.CrutchCricket wrote...
He doesn't have to as long as the presentation is done right.jtav wrote...
Wrong. There's a reason I referenced the N*zis. I got a little sick just reading his mission description. This guy has no redeeming traits in-game.
husky husk wrote...
Got a question.
When you go through your first playthrough of ME3 are you going to save your game before talking to Miranda and will you try out all the dialogue options then pick the one you like most or will you just go with whatever you choose without looking back? I see pros and cons in both you can get the Miranda story you want but you might risk loosing the immersion of the game from constant reloads or you can let things play out and see what happens only you might not get what you wanted in the end.
Thoughts?
jtav wrote...
Wrong. There's a reason I referenced the N*zis. I got a little sick just reading his mission description. This guy has no redeeming traits in-game.
Modifié par android654, 21 février 2012 - 06:07 .
Since I have envisioned that scenario, I meant outside Citadel Space, not necessarily away from the relay network. It could be tweaked that way, though, since it's the "Into the Sunset" ending where what they exactly do remains unknown.CrutchCricket wrote...
For some reason I keep thinking of the Nostromo... everyone gets out of cryo pods in their undies and they all eat a giant meal.Lost Northern wrote...
i'm asking myself a weird question...what does miranda when she wake up ???? what does the whole crew do when they wake up lol
Obviously wrong. Stil... for those scenarios some people envisioned of Shepard and Miranda starting their own colony... would it be outside the mass relay network, thus necessitating long periods of normal FTL and/or cryo sleep?
I aim to go with what I get in my first playthrough, though I keep the option open to reload if something is really offensive or stupid. The damned dialogue wheel gives me emotional triggers, but they're usually far too simplistic to convey what I feel, and anyway, I am against reacting emotionally without thinking things through in most situations. Since the wheel also misleads me, I feel justified to reload until I get something closest to what I really want to say.husky husk wrote...
Got a question.
When you go through your first playthrough of ME3 are you going to save your game before talking to Miranda and will you try out all the dialogue options then pick the one you like most or will you just go with whatever you choose without looking back? I see pros and cons in both you can get the Miranda story you want but you might risk loosing the immersion of the game from constant reloads or you can let things play out and see what happens only you might not get what you wanted in the end.
Thoughts?
I disagree. Like I've said before the best Complete Monsters aren't those that do it "for the evulz" but rather those who truly believe that what they do is right, is the correct way of things. What they specifically seek to accomplish can vary. But you can absolutely want a villain dead, everything about him can just scream "it's better if he dies" and he can still be fascinating by virtue of the reasoning behind his evil and potentially the causes of it.Ieldra2 wrote...
Maybe, but a complete monster is not interesting. If there is no doubt that he's best shot dead and his plans are best utterly forgotten, then it's a boring villain. At least in a story I'm supposed to take seriously. If the evil is the end and not a means to an end the evil of which is debatable, then the one perpetrating it is nothing more than an obstacle. Such a situation doesn't engage the mind.
Nope.android654 wrote...
Well that's just lazy writing. Every person, no matter how black thier heart may be, has some level of redeeming qualities.
Modifié par CrutchCricket, 21 février 2012 - 06:17 .
Ieldra2 wrote...
Mac Walters wrote her on the "critical path", which means most of her dialogue on main plot missions. No idea if he was also responsible for the infamous "betrayal" line.JosephDucreux wrote...
@Ieldra
Wha...Mac Walters wanted to make TIM ambiguous? Hmph, might have to reconsider my stance on him then...but then again, he purposely wrote the story of ME3 to exclude ME2 characters. Or maybe that's just Casey Hudson dicking around and screwing everything up again, I dunno.
Who was Miranda's writer in ME2 besides Weekes?
I think the decision which characters to put into the team was a project-level decision not made by any one person, though Casey Hudson's opinion would've had a major impact. There would've been several factors going into it. Unfortunately, Miranda has several problematic aspects in that regard: she's hard to integrate in an Alliance-centered team from a narrative perspective, she can be dead, she is reasonably popular but more controversial than Tali and Garrus, she would be yet another human on an already human-centred team. Possibly she also didn't have quite the internal lobby Tali and Garrus had. Having said that, I'd really like to know which factor contributed most to Miranda's sidelining in particular.
How is this even a question? Engine room much?Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
Is the ME2 crew aware of Miranda and Shepard?
Also do you think Miranda sleeps with Shepard in his cabin?
she better.Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
Is the ME2 crew aware of Miranda and Shepard?
Also do you think Miranda sleeps with Shepard in his cabin?
Modifié par atheelogos, 21 février 2012 - 06:38 .
android654 wrote...
jtav wrote...
Wrong. There's a reason I referenced the N*zis. I got a little sick just reading his mission description. This guy has no redeeming traits in-game.
Well that's just lazy writing. Every person, no matter how black thier heart may be, has some level of redeeming qualities.
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