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[atheelogos]

does no one know?

[Ieldra]

atheelogos wrote...
Without giving too many spoilers. Can anyone tell me if Miranda's sterility problem gets fixed in ME3?

Was there any info in the leaked script?

There is no information on that topic.

[Raizo]

Jynthor wrote...

I'm looking forward to meeting Mr Lawson, it should be an intriguing encounter. Well that is if BioWare doesn't pull a Cerberus. Sure he's rich and a real jerk but that doesn't mean he's evil... Right?

I would like it if we actually got a proper explanation as to why he was making clones of himself but altering the DNA to make all the clones female. What exactly was he trying to accomplish ( is it as bad as I think it might be, was he planning on having sex with his 'daughters' ) . Miranda says he was trying to make a dynasty but it seems like a very strange ( not to mention expensive ) way to go about it. I would like to know what happened to the failed clones ( Miranda says she was not the first one he created, just the first he kept ) and if he continued making clones fater Miranda ran away with Oriana.

As For Henry Lawson in general, I would prefer it if he were a complex and layered villain, a character who's motives we can understand even if we don't sympathise with the things he has done .instead of just this 'mustache twirling' badguy

[Raizo]

wright1978 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Mac Walters wrote her on the "critical path", which means most of her dialogue on main plot missions. No idea if he was also responsible for the infamous "betrayal" line.

I think the decision which characters to put into the team was a project-level decision not made by any one person, though Casey Hudson's opinion would've had a major impact. There would've been several factors going into it. Unfortunately, Miranda has several problematic aspects in that regard: she's hard to integrate in an Alliance-centered team from a narrative perspective, she can be dead, she is reasonably popular but more controversial than Tali and Garrus, she would be yet another human on an already human-centred team. Possibly she also didn't have quite the internal lobby Tali and Garrus had. Having said that, I'd really like to know which factor contributed most to Miranda's sidelining in particular.

I'm not bothered about knowing the why. Once the horse has bolted out of the stable door its rather pointless imo.Now i'm just dreading the extent of the butchering her character has received from the sidelining. I even have qualms about romance content to be honest.

No, I would like to know. I would want them to explain what the hell they were thinking when they made the ME3 squad list what it was and why virtually all of ME2's cast got ignored and I don't want to hear any BS about how all of ME2's cast can die in the SM since Garrus and Tali seem to be exempt from that crappy excuse.

[Seishoujyo]

It's really hard to believe this topic has already 1500 pages and Miranda isn't even perm squadmember, WTF Bioware ? It's obvious Miranda is one of the most famous character here, not Tali or Garrus...

And the fact is the ennemy is Cerberus so Miranda was THE right choice for a real squadmember, Tali or Garrus have nothing to do with Cerberus.

Mac Walters really sucks.

BTW I m with all of you, joining the Miri gang ^^

[MACharlie1]

Seishoujyo wrote...

It's really hard to believe this topic has already 1500 pages and Miranda isn't even perm squadmember, WTF Bioware ? It's obvious Miranda is one of the most famous character here, not Tali or Garrus...

And the fact is the ennemy is Cerberus so Miranda was THE right choice for a real squadmember, Tali or Garrus have nothing to do with Cerberus.

Mac Walters really sucks.

BTW I m with all of you, joining the Miri gang ^^

I'll be honest; I'd conjure most of these pages being mostly ****ing about how Miranda is not an ME3 squadmate from around the same 4 or 5 people.

[Dr. Doctor]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Also regarding the colony scenario, I don't think just outside Council Space is far enough, at least not going by the impressions I got from this scenario. I think it would truly have to be off the grid. Hmm. Now I'm thinking of Bioshock...

Hello, I am the Illusive Man and I'm here to ask you a question. Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

"No" says the man on Earth "it belongs to the poor"
"No" says the man on Arcturus "it belongs to the Alliance"
"No" say the men on the Citadel "it belongs to everyone"

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose Cerberus.

A group where the artist would not fear the censor, where the scientist would not be constrained by petty morallity, where the great would not be constrained by the small.

And with the sweat of your brow, Cerberus can be your organization too.

[CrutchCricket]

Raizo wrote...
I would like it if we actually got a proper explanation as to why he was making clones of himself but altering the DNA to make all the clones female. What exactly was he trying to accomplish ( is it as bad as I think it might be, was he planning on having sex with his 'daughters' ) . Miranda says he was trying to make a dynasty but it seems like a very strange ( not to mention expensive ) way to go about it. I would like to know what happened to the failed clones ( Miranda says she was not the first one he created, just the first he kept ) and if he continued making clones fater Miranda ran away with Oriana.

As For Henry Lawson in general, I would prefer it if he were a complex and layered villain, a character who's motives we can understand even if we don't sympathise with the things he has done .instead of just this 'mustache twirling' badguy

Yeah it never struck me as a foolproof scheme either. I hope we get some explanation for it. About the failed clones- you ever see Alien Resurrection? That. They were probably ended the same way too.

And is his name really Henry Lawson? That's... rather anticlimactic. Not at all what I was expecting a very powerful ruthless businessman to be called. But maybe he's bringing it back.

I like how you said the underlined and I think this gets missed whenever people start throwing the "moustache-twirling" label around. It's not about redeemable qualities or sympathising with the villian- it's about the villain making some damned sense. Whether tragic or complete monster, we should be able to see what he did there. Even in the case of completely against normal reason or chaotic villains like the Joker, antagonists should have some definable structure and purpose beyond "i hereby oppose the hero for the evulz".

[CrutchCricket]

Dr. Doctor wrote...
Hello, I am the Illusive Man and I'm here to ask you a question. Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

"No" says the man on Earth "it belongs to the poor"
"No" says the man on Arcturus "it belongs to the Alliance"
"No" say the men on the Citadel "it belongs to everyone"

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose Cerberus.

A group where the artist would not fear the censor, where the scientist would not be constrained by petty morallity, where the great would not be constrained by the small.

And with the sweat of your brow, Cerberus can be your organization too.

Brilliant as always Doc!

[Seishoujyo]

MACharlie1 wrote...

I'll be honest; I'd conjure most of these pages being mostly ****ing about how Miranda is not an ME3 squadmate from around the same 4 or 5 people.

You serious ? It's hard to believe, they re many different people here

[Seishoujyo]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Also regarding the colony scenario, I don't think just outside Council Space is far enough, at least not going by the impressions I got from this scenario. I think it would truly have to be off the grid. Hmm. Now I'm thinking of Bioshock...

Hello, I am the Illusive Man and I'm here to ask you a question. Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

"No" says the man on Earth "it belongs to the poor"
"No" says the man on Arcturus "it belongs to the Alliance"
"No" say the men on the Citadel "it belongs to everyone"

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose Cerberus.

A group where the artist would not fear the censor, where the scientist would not be constrained by petty morallity, where the great would not be constrained by the small.

And with the sweat of your brow, Cerberus can be your organization too.

Nice and true

Screw the Alliance, don't want to be with them anymore

[CrutchCricket]

Seishoujyo wrote...
You serious ? It's hard to believe, they re many different people here

He's more than serious. By mentioning it you've probably just restarted the cycle. Prepare for 10 more pages of wailing and gnashing of teeth. If you survive through it, you'll know what the past 700 pages have mostly been about.

[atheelogos]

Ieldra2 wrote...

atheelogos wrote...
Without giving too many spoilers. Can anyone tell me if Miranda's sterility problem gets fixed in ME3?

Was there any info in the leaked script?

There is no information on that topic.

thanks for the reply 

[Seishoujyo]

Well it's probably like that Tali became permenant SM, because of her fanboys crying like little babies.

[kainee]

Raizo wrote...

No, I would like to know. I would want them to explain what the hell they were thinking when they made the ME3 squad list what it was and why virtually all of ME2's cast got ignored and I don't want to hear any BS about how all of ME2's cast can die in the SM since Garrus and Tali seem to be exempt from that crappy excuse.

Lack of time and ressources to make all ME2 characters have a decent role and content in ME3. So they decided to focus on two characters, and logically they chose the most popular ones in order to avoid the complains of the most vocal fanbases. As a result, the other ME2 characters were expandable and they didn't waste time on them.

[MACharlie1]

Seishoujyo wrote...

Well it's probably like that Tali became permenant SM, because of her fanboys crying like little babies.

The kettle should not call the pot black. Seriously...

[CrutchCricket]

MACharlie1 wrote...

Seishoujyo wrote...

Well it's probably like that Tali became permenant SM, because of her fanboys crying like little babies.

The kettle should not call the pot black. Seriously...

The sad part is this thread's whining is 200% less effective.  On the plus side some of us still have dignity.

[kainee]

MACharlie1 wrote...

Seishoujyo wrote...

Well it's probably like that Tali became permenant SM, because of her fanboys crying like little babies.

The kettle should not call the pot black. Seriously...

We all know what this forum would look like if Miranda was a squadmate and not Tali.

Modifié par kainee, 21 février 2012 - 07:52 .

[Seishoujyo]

MACharlie1 wrote...

The kettle should not call the pot black. Seriously...

Yeah I know sorry, but all this stuff is frustrating. It's hard to believe Bioware made this lame choice to put ME2 characters aside.

It's like ME2 is just useless, a fast (and easy) cash game, from my POV doing a big DLC for the suicide missions was a better idea than a full game.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I for one can't wait to see Miri on the Citadel.

If I had my way, I would decide to go to the Citadel before Mars.

Kaidan: Why aren't we going to Mars? Liara needs our help.

Shepard: .........But I want to see Miranda. Besides, I have orders to talk to the Council, and I don't have the time to be sidetracked.

Kaidan: But--

Shepard *Renegade Option*: Shut up, Major! That's an order! And if I hear even the smallest mumble of "she is Cerberus" or "we can't trust her," your ass is going in a holding cell.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 21 février 2012 - 07:54 .

[MACharlie1]

kainee wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Seishoujyo wrote...

Well it's probably like that Tali became permenant SM, because of her fanboys crying like little babies.

The kettle should not call the pot black. Seriously...

Stop being such an hypocrite. We all know what this forum would look like if Miranda was a squadmate and not Tali.

I'm not defending Talis fans. Personally, I like Miranda and Tali equally - they were both once my avatar...at the same time. And yes - I agree. That if it was Miranda on the squad and not Tali then the roles would be reversed. But they aren't so deal with it. You should worry more about what you do and say then what someone else does. 

[CrutchCricket]

kainee wrote...
We all know what this forum would look like if Miranda was a squadmate and not Tali.

Probably trolled by butthurt fans?

I like Tali too but she has a much higher proportion of "crazies" than other fanbases.

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 21 février 2012 - 07:57 .

[jtav]

Would everyine play nice, please? Some of us quite like Tali.

[kainee]

MACharlie1 wrote...

kainee wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Seishoujyo wrote...

Well it's probably like that Tali became permenant SM, because of her fanboys crying like little babies.

The kettle should not call the pot black. Seriously...

Stop being such an hypocrite. We all know what this forum would look like if Miranda was a squadmate and not Tali.

I'm not defending Talis fans. Personally, I like Miranda and Tali equally - they were both once my avatar...at the same time. And yes - I agree. That if it was Miranda on the squad and not Tali then the roles would be reversed. But they aren't so deal with it. You should worry more about what you do and say then what someone else does. 

No I don't deal with it.

Modifié par kainee, 21 février 2012 - 08:03 .

[gogatm]

The kettle should definitely call the pot back. Its rude not to return calls.

The lesson here is that, for some reason, the pot thinks its better than the kettle... or maybe the pot just moved on? Sometimes the emptiness of not knowing is worse than the truth.