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[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Melrache wrote...

Good god. -.- This can't continue much longer.

Oh shut up FOR ONCE.<_<

[Melra]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Melrache wrote...

Good god. -.- This can't continue much longer.

Oh shut up FOR ONCE.<_<

No you're the one constantly crying here, there's no way to talk to you, seriously. Stop constantly seeking attention and just stop. You've turned the past few pages into just talks about you and your art.

[Jynthor]

Shepard confronts Miranda about the current state of her thread, she doesn't know what to say.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

And you're the one who constantly treats me like trash. NEWS FLASH: You are not above anyone. You are just as human as EVERYONE ELSE!

[android654]

Oh my, this is turning into dinner theater! So who slept with who's husband? I can't wait to see how this will unfold.

[jtav]

So, I'm trying desperately to do my tweaked Matt and FemShep in 13 days. Changing my Miranda decisions around. Keeping the base though that may change and not encouraging her to talk to Oriana. Harsh, but I'm now convinced keeping her away from Oriana is right.

[CrutchCricket]

jtav wrote...

So, I'm trying desperately to do my tweaked Matt and FemShep in 13 days. Changing my Miranda decisions around. Keeping the base though that may change and not encouraging her to talk to Oriana. Harsh, but I'm now convinced keeping her away from Oriana is right.

Right? I think not. But hey to each his own.

[Dr. Doctor]

I sort of need ME3 to tune my cannon playthrough, the leak doesn't give me enough detail to figure what I choices I want to transfer over.

[MisterJB]

Ieldra2 wrote...

UserForFun wrote...
Re; Ieldra,

I've thought about that possibility, but then I remembered -- Cerberus's chain of command is structured on different cells, one cannot recognize another, that's the main layer of defence Cerberus has.

Thus, Miranda's pool of knowledge would be limited, at best, and inaccurate at worst, due to Cerberus constantly altering the location of their facilities.

Apparently she has been retroactively promoted to Cerberus' second-in-command. I'd say she knows rather more than a simple cell leader.

On a optimistic note, maybe that was the reason behind the promotion. Bioware could have intended to give her a good reason as to why she would be aware of what most Cerberus cells did or are doing in ME3.
I wish they'd take it a step foward. Miranda contacting or outright meeting Shepard multiple times before her mission is very nice. But how about she gives Shepard missions or just info? She could warn Shepard that Cerberus is coming to Sur'Kesh.

[jtav]

I'm having to rework like crazy, which means tweaking Matt's personality, which means changing his service record which means starting from scratch.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
So, I'm trying desperately to do my tweaked Matt and FemShep in 13 days. Changing my Miranda decisions around. Keeping the base though that may change and not encouraging her to talk to Oriana. Harsh, but I'm now convinced keeping her away from Oriana is right.

Right in which way and from which perspective?

[Td1984]

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

Would you guys want Miranda to join u in the final battle or would u prefer she stays behind to ensure her safety

Front-line with me. Keep in mind, no matter how many Allies you have with you going into D-Day II or how prepared you are, odds are very high it's going to fail spectacularly. Therefore, if she's going to die anyway, best to go out in a blaze of glory together. Besides, like I've mentioned before, my head-canon will involve Thomas & Miranda making a "suicide-pact". Either they both make it out, or neither one will. It would be easier to carry out if they're together in the final battle, that way if she goes down, he'd know that when he got to the end to make a decision that would require sacrificing himself.

[Avy DiSartori]

 I think that Miranda's romance is the "impossible love",  from the ME series.. something like Romeu & Juliet maybe. Even though both individuals have quite a few similarities, their backgrounds are completely different and incompatible. How could Shepard, the hero of the alliance, saviour of the citadel, fall in love with a top cerberus operative? A mere terrorist for some people, whose actions are guided by moral obscurity and pure ruthlessness? I know this scenario is better suited for a Paragon Shepard, but even for renegades, Shepard is viewed as a symbol of
goodness.

And how could Miranda, the heartless ice queen who puts her missions in first place, and who hates alliance types and heroes, fall for Shepard like that?

The fact is that everything conspires against their relation.. It's a romance for the tough ones! A relation that must overcome distance and ethical differences. I'm definitely up for the challenge..

Modifié par Avy DiSartori, 22 février 2012 - 05:14 .

[MisterJB]

Td1984 wrote...
Besides, like I've mentioned before, my head-canon will involve Thomas & Miranda making a "suicide-pact". Either they both make it out, or neither one will. It would be easier to carry out if they're together in the final battle, that way if she goes down, he'd know that when he got to the end to make a decision that would require sacrificing himself.

I think Miranda would find the notion absurd. Remember what she says about Niket?

" You atone by fixing your mistakes, not by committing suicide."

She might be more likely to say, "If one dies, the other tries to live a life as fulfilling as possible."

[jtav]

I agree with MisterJB. She'd want Shep to move on. The kind of love that asks for suicide isn't love. She'd want him to move on. Can't speak for anyone else's Shepard, but Matt would certainly want her to do so. He'd want her with him, but not so they can die together.

[CrutchCricket]

Td1984 wrote...

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

Would you guys want Miranda to join u in the final battle or would u prefer she stays behind to ensure her safety

Front-line with me. Keep in mind, no matter how many Allies you have with you going into D-Day II or how prepared you are, odds are very high it's going to fail spectacularly. Therefore, if she's going to die anyway, best to go out in a blaze of glory together. Besides, like I've mentioned before, my head-canon will involve Thomas & Miranda making a "suicide-pact". Either they both make it out, or neither one will. It would be easier to carry out if they're together in the final battle, that way if she goes down, he'd know that when he got to the end to make a decision that would require sacrificing himself.

lol suicide-pact.

I'm not dissing your idea... I'm just imagining that one of them is trolling the other.
Shepard: I'm hit bad.... I won't make it.
Miranda: Uh.. yeah about that whole "suicide pact" thing... yeah not doing that.
Shepard: But... I'm dying! You agreed!
Miranda: Yeah... as a goof. What, you were serious?

It's not clear what Shepard died of, his wounds.... or embarassment.

Otherwise I tend to agree that if they die, better they die together. From a gameplay perspective my reasoning is that if they're with me I can protect them. That was how I got through the suicide mission the first time around, before I knew the death conditions. Miranda needed to live therefore she was in my squad at all times. Could've backfired spectacularly if she hadn't been loyal lol.

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 22 février 2012 - 05:45 .

[jtav]

I will say, though, that if Miranda does die, Matt is much more likely to risk life and limb. Especially since it's not likely he'll have time to process his grief. He may indeed fall on his sword, but not deliberately.

[CrutchCricket]

Didn't you say you were going to switch him to Tali? Or did you change your mind?

[jtav]

I changed my mind. They're a linked pair for me now.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
I agree with MisterJB. She'd want Shep to move on. The kind of love that asks for suicide isn't love. She'd want him to move on. Can't speak for anyone else's Shepard, but Matt would certainly want her to do so. He'd want her with him, but not so they can die together.

Absolutely. In fact, I imagine they'd make a promise to each other to move on in case the other dies. Cyrus Shepard will find the prospect of his own death much easier to bear if he knows that Miranda will live and eventually move on, and I imagine Miranda would feel much the same.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 22 février 2012 - 06:09 .

[jtav]

But if she dies in the endgame or shortly before, he's likely to do something that will get him killed or worse. He would want her to move on, but she's the only check on his martyr complex.

Modifié par jtav, 22 février 2012 - 06:15 .

[android654]

Luckily I have no dilemma on this. I pretty much see no longevity for a Shepard and Miranda romance, so regardless of how she's treated in ME3 they'll be split up. Either she dies, giving him some degree of guilt and regret for letting her go or she lives and they separate like I originally thought they would. I think a better fit for Beau Shepard would be to have him go back to Ashley, she's the more "stable" of the two and after the whirlwind that was his time fighting the reapers he's seeking some normalcy. Miranda couldn't provide that even if she wanted to.

[Melra]

jtav wrote...

But if she dies in the endgame or shortly before, he's likely to do something that will get him killed or worse. He would want her to move on, but she's the only check on his martyr complex.

Gotta agree with this kinda. While he might not start looking for a way to do ( not saying it's not plausible, some Shepards have lost a lot of people who were close to them. Suicide Missions, Virmire, ME3..) I still think he'd take a lot more risks, as long as they don't endanger those friends who are still left.

Edit:

Can't get enough of this drawing.

Modifié par Melrache, 22 février 2012 - 07:01 .

[Skullheart]

Well, If my Shepard survives and Miranda dies during the war, he'll become a space vagabond. No plate to go, no place top belonge.

[CrutchCricket]

Hmm. I was actually thinking of some scenarios where Miranda dies (post ME3 of course). Shepard's response? Tranquil Fury meets Roaring Rampage of Revenge.