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[jtav]

CrutchCricket wrote...

jtav wrote...

Well, it's a bit hard to be optimistic when the positive things regarding Miranda are marketing talk and the negatives are based on details found in a leak that has a 100% match rate with what we know. I see no reason for positivity about her actual role in the game. Everything from the leak to the marketing points to disappointment.

Exactly what are you matching? Where are you getting this 100% from? The demo?

Oh look, the intro mission is the same as the leak. The beginning of the game has remained unchanged! Woo-hoo<_<

All the lines in the demo (incuding dialogue from other parts of the game) and seen in teasers was found first in the leak. The leak is accurate, but incomplete. And putting the entirety of your hopes on things not there borders on dekusional.

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

I really do love Miranda more than any other ME character but if the romance doesn't go anywhere it just makes sense to go back to Ashley for me at least it does. I really hope to avoid this and stay happy with Miranda

[D. Carmine]

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

I really do love Miranda more than any other ME character but if the romance doesn't go anywhere it just makes sense to go back to Ashley for me at least it does. I really hope to avoid this and stay happy with Miranda

So you're going to go back to Ashley (Who calls you a traitor, says you could be working for the enemy, and generally doesn't trust you) if Miranda's romance isn't great?

Different stroke, different folks, and all that.

[Skullheart]

Well, the only good romances in ME3 are Liara, Garrus and Tali. If you plan to romance someone else it should be any of those three.

[jtav]

As for what would satisfy me:

--Miranda talks about her feelings toward Cerberus and any guilt she may have
--Her belief in human advancement is intact as a motivator alongside her love for Oriana
--She is an active participant in her mission
--She has a unique contribution to the war effort, preferably involving a reformed Cerberus
--a dramatic conclusion to the romance and the possibility of a happy ending

Modifié par jtav, 23 février 2012 - 09:24 .

[D. Carmine]

jtav wrote...

As for what would satisfy me:

--She has a ynique contribution to the war effort, preferably involving a reformed Cerberus

Is she still the only ME2 character (As of yet) that doesn't have a unique war asset?

[CrutchCricket]

Again, the beginning remained unchanged. Big ****ing deal. I'm not sure to what extent lines "from other parts of the game" make up the leak but I do know something better: the demo is likely less than one quarter of the final game. Matching less than one quarter of the game with 100% accuracy gives you... less than one quarter of the game, which means we still know (in the full sense of the word) precisely dick about the rest.
You're a writer. Have you never completely changed part of your story but left other parts untouched? If you were to give me chapters 1,2 and 5 of Portrait and some rough drafts for the rest before you completed it and in the meantime completely reworked 4, 6 and so on, would I be justified in saying I know what happens in your story? Hardly. So let's just give it a rest. And worst comes to worst, even if you're right and nothing's changed there's no reason to go on and on about it. At least wait for the game to come out so you can complain properly.

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

@D. Carmine
Look at it from my point of view. I still love Ashley I really do but my feelings for Miranda completely overshadow the ones I have for Ashley.
And regarding the Horizon fiasco she was emotional and angry people say horrible things when they are in a state like that. I'm not condoning what she said but she apologized and i forgave her so I won't hold it against her. The past is done and I'm looking forward to restarting our relationship whether it be as friends or more that all depends.

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

@Skullheart
Not really are opinions are not fact

[D. Carmine]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Again, the beginning remained unchanged. Big ****ing deal. I'm not sure to what extent lines "from other parts of the game" make up the leak but I do know something better: the demo is likely less than one quarter of the final game.

I would certainly hope that a 1-hour single player demo is less than 1/4 the full game, in a 40+ hour action-RPG.

[MisterJB]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Again, the beginning remained unchanged. Big ****ing deal. I'm not sure to what extent lines "from other parts of the game" make up the leak but I do know something better: the demo is likely less than one quarter of the final game. Matching less than one quarter of the game with 100% accuracy gives you... less than one quarter of the game, which means we still know (in the full sense of the word) precisely dick about the rest.

Just to give an example, all of TIM's lines on Mars "Don't get in my way Shepard...When we first discovered there was something more in the universe, there were some who tought the relays should be destroyed."  are on the leak.
I can also find the entire conversation Shepard and Vega have while sparring.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
As for what would satisfy me:
--Miranda talks about her feelings toward Cerberus and any guilt she may have
--Her belief in human advancement is intact as a motivator alongside her love for Oriana
--She is an active participant in her mission
--She has a unique contribution to the war effort, preferably involving a reformed Cerberus
--a dramatic conclusion to the romance and the possibility of a happy ending

I think these are all reasonable expectations. Not at all hard to fulfil....

[D. Carmine]

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

@D. Carmine
Look at it from my point of view. I still love Ashley I really do but my feelings for Miranda completely overshadow the ones I have for Ashley.
And regarding the Horizon fiasco she was emotional and angry people say horrible things when they are in a state like that. I'm not condoning what she said but she apologized and i forgave her so I won't hold it against her. The past is done and I'm looking forward to restarting our relationship whether it be as friends or more that all depends.

I guess I'm different from most people. I say horrible things even when I'm not angry (But you know this already).

That said, I'm not the type of person to just brush off personal attacks. If there's a chance to shove Ashley's Horizon-stupid back in her face, I'd take it, and I'd giggle with glee while doing it.

Since I believe in equal rights, I'd do the same to Kaidan (Which I will).

Modifié par D. Carmine, 23 février 2012 - 09:30 .

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

@D. Carmine
I wouldn't expect anything different from you lol

[shepard1038]

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

@D. Carmine
I wouldn't expect anything different from you lol

What is wrong to love two characters?

[D. Carmine]

shepard1038 wrote...

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

@D. Carmine
I wouldn't expect anything different from you lol

What is wrong to love two characters?

There's nothing wrong with liking multiple characters (Hell, my personal favorites are Miranda, Garrus, and Liara).

But I'm not going to like someone (Ashley/Kaidan) who's made it perfectly clear that they don't like me, either.

[Jynthor]

D. Carmine wrote...

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

@D. Carmine
Look at it from my point of view. I still love Ashley I really do but my feelings for Miranda completely overshadow the ones I have for Ashley.
And regarding the Horizon fiasco she was emotional and angry people say horrible things when they are in a state like that. I'm not condoning what she said but she apologized and i forgave her so I won't hold it against her. The past is done and I'm looking forward to restarting our relationship whether it be as friends or more that all depends.

I guess I'm different from most people. I say horrible things even when I'm not angry (But you know this already).

That said, I'm not the type of person to just brush off personal attacks. If there's a chance to shove Ashley's Horizon-stupid back in her face, I'd take it, and I'd giggle with glee while doing it.

Since I believe in equal rights, I'd do the same to Kaidan (Which I will).

I'll definitely enjoy putting Kaidan back in his place, although he's nowhere as bad as Ashley.

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

@shepard1038
He said he would kill Ashley
I said loved Ash and Miri

[D. Carmine]

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

@shepard1038
He said he would kill Ashley
I said loved Ash and Miri

I'm not going to kill Ashley. I don't like her, but I'm not that stupid, to throw away resources while fighting the Reapers. I'll keep her for the man power.

I will enjoy verbally destroying her though, until the appeal dwindles.

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

@D. Carmine
Lol

[shepard1038]

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

@shepard1038
He said he would kill Ashley
I said loved Ash and Miri

So you're a ashleymancer and a mirimancer?

[CrutchCricket]

Yeah Ashley has moments where she wasn't the nicest. And maybe she deserves some payback. But I don't think she's irredeemable or deserves constant abuse.

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

@shepard1038
Yes but I like Miranda more

[MegaBadExample]

D. Carmine wrote...

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

@shepard1038
He said he would kill Ashley
I said loved Ash and Miri

I'm not going to kill Ashley. I don't like her, but I'm not that stupid, to throw away resources while fighting the Reapers. I'll keep her for the man power.

I will enjoy verbally destroying her though, until the appeal dwindles.

Oh, you're just gonna love the stuff you can say to her on mars. Wish I could see your face when it all goes down.

[HighFlyingDwarf]

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