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[Ieldra]

ViSeirA wrote...
It'd make my day if she was somthing like Science Officier, now that Mordin won't be part of the squad, and she can be a squad member only on Cerberus related missions, if she's dead they can replace her with someone like Kahlee Sanders, Miranda can contribute a lot more to the war by using her intellect rather than just being a foot soldier.

I agree with the latter.

But your scenario would still limit her involvement to the Normandy. I'd like her to do something on her own initiative - even though it had to be mostly off-screen. Also in addition to science officer, I wish she'd be the central hub for information concerning Cerberus, collected through her contact network. Finally, she'll accompany us on the mission to take down Cerberus, and we'll have the choice to let her take over and repurpose what's left of it. That would mean she'd leave for a time, only to join us in the endgame. 

[OrumRod]

What about this:
Renage interrupt: *a spank*
Paragon interrupt: *a gentle touch*
lol i'm just kidding.

Being seriously i think we should be allowed to have more "physical" interactions with our LI's.

[ViSeiRa]

Ieldra2 wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...
It'd make my day if she was somthing like Science Officier, now that Mordin won't be part of the squad, and she can be a squad member only on Cerberus related missions, if she's dead they can replace her with someone like Kahlee Sanders, Miranda can contribute a lot more to the war by using her intellect rather than just being a foot soldier.

I agree with the latter.

But your scenario would still limit her involvement to the Normandy. I'd like her to do something on her own initiative - even though it had to be mostly off-screen. Also in addition to science officer, I wish she'd be the central hub for information concerning Cerberus, collected through her contact network. Finally, she'll accompany us on the mission to take down Cerberus, and we'll have the choice to let her take over and repurpose what's left of it. That would mean she'd leave for a time, only to join us in the endgame. 

Miranda helping us taking down Cerberus is basically a given, how she does that and to what extent can go in wildly different directions, what I don't want is for her to be reduced to an extra squad member just like Garrus in ME2, he was there for the sake of being there.

Judging by the size of the Cerberus plot in ME3 I'd say it's safe to assume we'll get a fair amount of interaction with Miranda but if that's all we're gonna get then I'm gonna be disappointed, I want real invlovement in taking the reapers down, if she doesn't have to be on the Normandy for that I won't mind, your scenario is actually pretty good but I'd love for her to take over Cerberus by her own decision, not Shepard's... in any case she always leaves at a certain point then comes back at the end.

[KamikazeShepard]

 Quick question about Miranda. In her long history with Cerberus, there have been good cells and bad cells. From what we've seen, Miranda is usually in the good cells, but we don't know everything about her history with Cerberus.  Do you think Miranda has done evil things like experiment on people and kidnap kids?

[MisterJB]

Reposting the answer I posted on your thread.

We don't know much about Miranda's past with Cerberus. However, she expresses dissaproval at what happened in Pragia; calling it a mistake;, was horrified when she saw the conditions the children lived in and didn't want to continue experimenting on Rachni when she realized their sentiency.
So, the answer is no. Miranda is similar to Mordin in this aspect.

[jtav]

I think Miranda has done evil, but the ordinary sort: murder, torture, etc. Nothing like Pragia or Overlord.

[Vertigo_1]

Assassinations!

Whether through close combat (in disguise at a party)
Or long range by sniper
And anything in between.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 07 juillet 2011 - 01:12 .

[PMC65]

jtav wrote...

I think Miranda has done evil, but the ordinary sort: murder, torture, etc. Nothing like Pragia or Overlord.

Well, the "torture" was consensual and a safe word was involved ... "Fahrvergnügen".  

[Arijharn]

I don't buy that Miranda was really deployed on field for most of her working life at Cerberus. Especially considering when she said that she was (paraphrasing) trusted with the most technically demanding of tasks.

Miranda is beautiful, but she wouldn't the the only beautiful employee of Cerberus. I have to ask though; if you have a genius who is practically a byword for success and capable of accomplishing tasks that should belong in science fiction (*cough*), would you really risk that by deploying her onto (major) field work?

I would say that prior to Lazarus, she would have had basic training (probably provided by Jacob) and that she was, of course, more than competent at it. But I can't think of her as a spy slipping into manors and slipping in poison to cocktail drinks not because I don't think she could do it, but because I doubt the Illusive Man could risk her getting caught. Why? Because I doubt the Illusive Man had anyone else that could successfully see Lazarus (or projects that could be the equivalent to it) to the end.

[Arijharn]

@Ieldra, you don't like LuxDragon's shep/miranda pairing?

[jtav]

I don't think she was a scientist. Wilson is explicitly chief medical tech. Miranda also never mentions scientific training and drops the research periodical ASAP. She's a Jacob's handler in Galaxy, providing him with leads and evaluating him as a candidate for recruitment. Her passive description mentions a skill at coordinating fireteams. We have far more evidence that she's some kind of field agent than a scientist.

[Vertigo_1]

jtav wrote...

I don't think she was a scientist. Wilson is explicitly chief medical tech. Miranda also never mentions scientific training and drops the research periodical ASAP. She's a Jacob's handler in Galaxy, providing him with leads and evaluating him as a candidate for recruitment. Her passive description mentions a skill at coordinating fireteams. We have far more evidence that she's some kind of field agent than a scientist.

Agreed.  I can't see someone as talented as Miranda most of the time sitting at a desk.
Feme Fetale and all.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 07 juillet 2011 - 02:03 .

[Arijharn]

Wilson was the chief medical tech that's true, yet Miranda was very hands on, even going so far as to tell Wilson that his 'numbers were wrong' etc, etc. I don't think she's just the handler or administrator when she's in the room when Shephard wakes up for the first time.

[goofyomnivore]

jtav wrote...

I think Miranda has done evil, but the ordinary sort: murder, torture, etc. Nothing like Pragia or Overlord.

Outside of Ashley and Kaidan, I think every character we've met has done some "evil deeds". I don't really think less of any character for it, unless it is extreme, Morinth comes to mind. Heck my Shepard has a few skeletons in his closet. I guess Tali would be clean too.

As for Miranda's role. In ME2 Mordin and EDI took the roles I would see her excelling in. EDI is probably back for sure, so having Miranda do a similar role seems kind of pointless. I don't think she is as big a labrat as Mordin either, but I wish we would of seen her interact with Mordin more, like on the Swarm countermeasure and analyzing Collector data.
If it wasn't for EDI, I always thought Miranda would of been perfect for the "field analysis" role.

I think XO is a good fit for her, but with the Alliance seizing the Normandy. I don't see her having that position back at least at the start. As for scientist or operative? I'd say she is 70/30 Operative/Scientist.

Modifié par strive, 07 juillet 2011 - 02:44 .

[Vertigo_1]

Arijharn wrote...

Wilson was the chief medical tech that's true, yet Miranda was very hands on, even going so far as to tell Wilson that his 'numbers were wrong' etc, etc. I don't think she's just the handler or administrator when she's in the room when Shephard wakes up for the first time.

Maybe she was there to check up on how things were going?
This is also where she was for 2 years. This does not mean that this is all that she does.

[ParadoxAu]

Yannkee wrote...

ParadoxAu wrote...

I hate the idea of recasting Miranda. It just wouldn't be acceptable for me to have anyone else in the roll other then Yvonne. I found Yvonne's performance to be astonishing, Yvonne brought Miranda to life for me. Luckily, this shouldn't be a problem.. I don't see Bioware doing such a thing.

As for any Speculation regarding the upcoming conventions, Comicon is the most likely candidate for a Miranda reveal, considering Yvonne Strahovski will be attending for Chuck Season 5.

I'm trying not to get my hopes up, like i did for E3.

I agree.
And it wouldn't be the same character to me if it's voiced by someone else.

I agree.

[goofyomnivore]

I'd be lying to say Yvonne's Australian accent isn't appealing to the character(at least to me). I'm a sucker for accents, especially Australian and Welsh in particular.

I think she did a good job too. However there are parts were she kind of dropped the ball, but this was her first VA gig wasn't it? If so her performance was exceptional IMO. To me Miranda's character would be damaged if Yvonne didn't voice her.

[Vertigo_1]

strive wrote...

I'd be lying to say Yvonne's Australian accent isn't appealing to the character(at least to me). I'm a sucker for accents, especially Australian and Welsh in particular.

I think she did a good job too. However there are parts were she kind of dropped the ball, but this was her first VA gig wasn't it? If so her performance was exceptional IMO. To me Miranda's character would be damaged if Yvonne didn't voice her.

I believe it was her first VO yes, and she did great.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 07 juillet 2011 - 04:17 .

[CuseGirl]

I believe it was her first VO yes, and she did great.

To be honest, I don't care for Shepard's voice actor, especially in his scenes with Miranda and Jacob. It doesn't help that my Shep is always black or latino looking tho.....but still.....a voice actor has to ACT and sometimes I didn't get the sense that he was acting, just speaking....

[Repearized Miranda]

CuseGirl wrote...

I believe it was her first VO yes, and she did great.

To be honest, I don't care for Shepard's voice actor, especially in his scenes with Miranda and Jacob. But still.....a voice actor has to ACT and sometimes I didn't get the sense that he was acting, just speaking....

He wasn't overtly emotional, but maybe he was directed that way as opposed to his counter part.

The VS VAs are similar because "Kaidan" emotes like male Shepard does while "Ashley" emotes like female Shepard does because she was directed that way. It may come off as "ho-hum" or "OTT", but these are different characters despite everything else (sans the physical differences) being the same.

Two sides of the same coin so-to-speak.

[Do Not make this a VA war]

[TheMarshal]

CuseGirl wrote...

To be honest, I don't care for Shepard's voice actor, especially in his scenes with Miranda and Jacob. It doesn't help that my Shep is always black or latino looking tho.....but still.....a voice actor has to ACT and sometimes I didn't get the sense that he was acting, just speaking....

I believe Mark Meer's voice direction was to focus on being a 'blank slate', giving him a more stoic - albeit sometimes wooden - performance. 

[Vertigo_1]

My original post was in reference to Yvonne's VA work FYI....
Meer is getting better with each game (it's there) and with the emotional story the writers are pushing for ME3 I hope to see an even better performance form him.

As Reaperized Miranda said (hah...) let's not turn this into a VA war please.

[awf08]

I don't care to use the search funtion, so if every bodies already seen this...then oh well.

Yvonne Strahovski who does Miranda's voice work has ME3 in her filmography. So she'll be presented in some way or another apparently.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2088803/

[Vertigo_1]

awf08 wrote...

I don't care to use the search funtion, so if every bodies already seen this...then oh well.

Yvonne Strahovski who does Miranda's voice work has ME3 in her filmography. So she'll be presented in some way or another apparently.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2088803/

This gets posted here many times (its ok you probably didn't see it).
We are waiting for official confirmation from either Yvonne or Bioware as IMDB is pretty much like wikipedia whereby anyone can edit pages.

The tweets recently from Bioware writters/PR suggest they plan on releasing VO list soon™

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 07 juillet 2011 - 06:00 .

[Shotokanguy]

This isn't the first time today I've seen discussion of what sort of things Miranda may have done in the past for Cerberus.

I think this is a discussion I'd like to have with her now. I imagine it would fit well in a discussion of the things Shepard may have done or may do.