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[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Personally, I want Miranda to stay far away from the movie.

Given that it's bound to be bad, I agree. I can't recall a game-based movie that's been any good, ever.

We need new info. I'm having Miranda in ME3 dreams now. And yes, she was a full squad member.

Hey, you too? Don't recall the team member status, though. Only her giving commands. And she had deep black commando armor.

[jtav]

She was in her default outfit, looking noticeably older. And she started off as an enemy. I spent a lot of time PM'ing you about whether the romance was worth doing.

I do want to see screenshots.

And would anyone like me to write up all the arguments for why she will and won't be a permanent squad member?

Modifié par jtav, 07 juillet 2011 - 12:52 .

[Elyvern]

Gah, still no info on Miranda?

[Prudii Aden]

About the only game-based movie that I've seen that was half way decent was Prince of Persia. Other than that, their either dire (Doom, Super Mario Bros etc) or have Milla Jovovich in them (Resident Evil).

Modifié par Prudii Aden, 07 juillet 2011 - 01:19 .

[jtav]

Still no info. If I were them, I'd release a very ambiguous screenshot of her that says nothing.

[Kail Ashton]

I would be very shocked if Miranda and Grunt aren't the two returns from ME2

[Sarcastic Tasha]

I enjoyed the Resident Evil films for what they were. Dead or Alive was a so bad its good sort of film. I thought Silent Hill really captured the mood of the game although Sean Bean's character was obviously just there so the film wouldn't be full of women (which only happened because they changed the protagonist to a woman because they thought Harry was too much of a wuss in the game).

I've always thought that the Mass Effect universe would be better suited to a series (might end up being a rip off of Star Trek) than a film but I think having Shepard and the gang in any film or series would be a mistake.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
And would anyone like me to write up all the arguments for why she will and won't be a permanent squad member?

Yes. Possibly put them in the OP, so that we can refer to them if someone asks or brings "new" arguments.

@Elyvern:
What are *you* doing here? Has ME3 come out while I was not watching?

[Elyvern]

i got to say this pronounced silence is getting to be ominous. You have to wonder if it's intentional or not, and the reasons why that would be the case.

@Ieldra - just poking my head in and delivering my daily dose of whine.

[jtav]

Arguments for:

*She is the lead NPC of ME2. If you're going to bring back one squad member to represent ME2, it would be Miranda
*Most used squad member, which translates to most popular as far as metrics are concerned
*Connection to major enemy Cerberus
*Likely has highest survival rate due to being almost impossible to kill by accident

Arguments against:

*Hard or not, she can still be killed
*We're back with the Alliance. Miranda represented Cerberus. VS seems to be replacing her as main human
*Ashley looks very similar. A casual player could confuse them. Are we going to have two people filling the "sexy human" role?
*Lacks the vocal fanbase of some characters.

Thoughts?

[Jebel Krong]

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
Personally, I want Miranda to stay far away from the movie.

Given that it's bound to be bad, I agree. I can't recall a game-based movie that's been any good, ever.

legendary pictures haven't done too many clunkers, and they did also do 300, the nolan batman films etc etc. if they take their time and do it right, a mass effect film could be awesome, i'd still prefer to see a blur studios mass effect film though.

[Ieldra]

Elyvern wrote...
i got to say this pronounced silence is getting to be ominous. You have to wonder if it's intentional or not, and the reasons why that would be the case.

Here a few possible reasons:
(1) They know it's going to be a bad surprise and don't want to trigger the fan rage prematurely.
(2) They know it's going to to a pleasant surprise and don't want to spoil it for us.
(3) The aren't yet done with the redesign.
(4) They want to keep the hype up. (compare Garrus pre-release of ME2)
(5) They don't know yet if Yvonne Strahovski will be back, or negotiations are still running.
(6) They haven't yet decided about her role in the first place.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 07 juillet 2011 - 01:54 .

[Jebel Krong]

jtav wrote...

Arguments for:

*She is the lead NPC of ME2. If you're going to bring back one squad member to represent ME2, it would be Miranda
*Most used squad member, which translates to most popular as far as metrics are concerned
*Connection to major enemy Cerberus
*Likely has highest survival rate due to being almost impossible to kill by accident

Arguments against:

*Hard or not, she can still be killed
*We're back with the Alliance. Miranda represented Cerberus. VS seems to be replacing her as main human
*Ashley looks very similar. A casual player could confuse them. Are we going to have two people filling the "sexy human" role?
*Lacks the vocal fanbase of some characters.

Thoughts?

countering your against:
*so could almost everyone else, including tali/garrus who've already been seen.
*VS is only one character and:
*if it's ashley, then she could well be dead too so that would leave no-one filling said role.
*personally i take that as a plus, the constant whining from the same few people has got to be grating even for devs.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...

Arguments for:

*She is the lead NPC of ME2. If you're going to bring back one squad member to represent ME2, it would be Miranda
*Most used squad member, which translates to most popular as far as metrics are concerned
*Connection to major enemy Cerberus
*Likely has highest survival rate due to being almost impossible to kill by accident

Arguments against:

*Hard or not, she can still be killed
*We're back with the Alliance. Miranda represented Cerberus. VS seems to be replacing her as main human
*Ashley looks very similar. A casual player could confuse them. Are we going to have two people filling the "sexy human" role?
*Lacks the vocal fanbase of some characters.

Thoughts?

Add to arguments for:
*She's an LI; and one of the more popular ones.
(Heh - totally in-character that you forgot that )

As for the being killed argument - it should stay in, but with the caveat that everyone but Liara can die. The only thing special about Ash and Kaidan is that they cannot both die.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 07 juillet 2011 - 02:01 .

[Jebel Krong]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Elyvern wrote...
i got to say this pronounced silence is getting to be ominous. You have to wonder if it's intentional or not, and the reasons why that would be the case.

Here a few possible reasons:
(1) They know it's going to be a bad surprise and don't want to trigger the fan rage prematurely.
(2) They know it's going to to a pleasant surprise and don't want to spoil it for us.
(3) The aren't yet done with the redesign.
(4) They want to keep the hype up. (compare Garrus pre-release of ME2)
(5) They don't know yet if Yvonne Strahovski will be back, or negotiations are still running.
(6) They haven't yet decided about her role in the first place.

or, they know what's happening, just haven't finished everything yet, but as a big part of the story could be spoilerrific - BW caught some flack last time before ME2 for revealing too much before release - inlcuding with garrus. Yvonne is bound to be contracted for more than ME2 - as will any main cast, i don't even think they do single contracts anymore the way industries are so fond of sequels - the marvel film people are signed for between 3-5 films from day 1.

[Jebel Krong]

Melrache wrote...

Why in hell would someone make movie about games, that are like interactive movies themselves? There's no one dumb enough to do such thing..

are you kidding? a. it's got to be easier than translating a novel/whatever - half the work (plot, design, story etc) is already done; b. you have a built-in audience before you start; c. and plenty of brand-awareness in general anyway - that's a better lead-in than most properties get. Mass Effect also benefits from being science fiction - which is always popular, and although similar, is also different enough from - say - star trek that the appeal also overlaps. Mass Effect has the potential to make for some great films, and i know i'd rather see that on-screen than transformers 3, pirates 4 etc.

[jtav]

Added list of arguments to the OP.

Honestly, Miranda and Jack are the two characters  I have the hardest time predicting. I can see compelling reasons either way.

Modifié par jtav, 07 juillet 2011 - 02:17 .

[Bio Addict]

So how many have been confirmed as permanent squad members thus far? Garrus, Liara, Tali, VS, and new guy Vega. I can't help but wonder how many slots are left for Miranda to potentially fill. For the longest time I thought she'd be a given due to her popularity, but hope is fading...

[jtav]

Confirmed are Vega, Liara, and VS. They seem to have backpedaled a bit on Tali and Garrus, though I still consider them very likely. I think they need to have 1-2 characters that represent ME2.

[Stonewall77]

jtav wrote...

Arguments for:

*She is the lead NPC of ME2. If you're going to bring back one squad member to represent ME2, it would be Miranda
*Most used squad member, which translates to most popular as far as metrics are concerned
*Connection to major enemy Cerberus
*Likely has highest survival rate due to being almost impossible to kill by accident

Arguments against:

*Hard or not, she can still be killed
*We're back with the Alliance. Miranda represented Cerberus. VS seems to be replacing her as main human
*Ashley looks very similar. A casual player could confuse them. Are we going to have two people filling the "sexy human" role?
*Lacks the vocal fanbase of some characters.

Thoughts?

If Miranda is one of your final squadmates and Sheperd destroys the Collector base, then there is a quick cutscene where she resigns from Cerberus. Certainly she would follow Shepard to the Alliance.

[Melra]

If it doesn't sound like Miss Strahovski, it can't be even considered to be used to replace Miss Lawson.

[STJebus]

Well so far they've only confirmed ME1 characters and there is no way they'll just skip all the great characters from ME2 especially Miranda because if Ashley is dead then there is no human women left... i consider jack to be a man... plus they want interplay between Li's (most likely: Ash vs Mir) so chances are she'll be there

[jtav]

Some of us do like Jack, you know...

And leaving Cerberus doesn't mean she'd join the Alliance. I still don't think she likes them.

[STJebus]

didn't say u didn't like jack, lots of people like jack... i just don't, it's my opinion... and when does it say Miranda doesn't like the alliance? I'm pretty sure she just likes Cerberus because they helped her get away from her dad... i don't think she has an opinion on the alliance other than what Cerberus has told her... and my shep has fairly alliance views and she likes him and resigns from Cerberus because she likes his ideals better... wouldn't that in turn lead to her liking the alliance?

[MisterJB]

Stonewall77 wrote...
If Miranda is one of your final squadmates and Sheperd destroys the Collector base, then there is a quick cutscene where she resigns from Cerberus. Certainly she would follow Shepard to the Alliance.

Shepard is not going to the Alliance. He is being dragged in chains.
Miranda accompanying him is too risky. She could be arrested; if she and Shepard are in a relationship, she could be used against him; her father migth live on Earth (hopefully some Reaper will stomp him).
And yeah, she doesn't really like the Alliance, probrably even less now that they are using Shepard as a scapegoat.