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[husky husk]

That doesn't sound good, most my sheps are pro-human and a few pro-cerberus. I think I got 1 paragon playthrough left collecting dust somewhere.

[Melra]

I always preferred fighting for Alliance over working for Cerberus. I like heroes who stick to their parties even if their superiors betray them or are revealed to be corrupt. If TIM wasn't as interesting and Miranda wasn't part of Cerberus, there wouldn't be anything interesting about the organization for me.

Modifié par Melrache, 25 février 2012 - 09:25 .

[AgitatedLemon]

jtav wrote...

The VS has trust issues, shall we say? And given my tendency to play pro-Cerberus Sheps, I dpn't think they're going to go away.

Reason #1 why I'm not thrilled about Ashley/Kaidan in ME3.

Especially since my canon Shepard is sympathetic towards Cerberus, even if he doesn't outright support their experiments.

[AgitatedLemon]

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

@ThomGau
I don't like being forced back in the Alliance either

There are a couple dialogues where you can RP a Shepard who doesn't like the Alliance, for what it's worth.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 25 février 2012 - 09:33 .

[AgitatedLemon]

ThomGau wrote...

I tend to play pro-Cerberus and even more so in ME3 imo, I'm not really pleased to be back with the Alliance. I don't think the VS and I will get along well. I guess telling him/her off will be ... interesting

I'm kind of hoping for something similar to how Shepard tells off TIM at the end of ME2.

"We're playing by my rules from here on out. Either fall in line or step aside, but do NOT get in my way."

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 25 février 2012 - 09:38 .

[MisterJB]

I was hoping for more than a couple, to be honest.

[ThomGau]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ThomGau wrote...

I tend to play pro-Cerberus and even more so in ME3 imo, I'm not really pleased to be back with the Alliance. I don't think the VS and I will get along well. I guess telling him/her off will be ... interesting

I'm kind of hoping for something similar to how Shepard tells off TIM at the end of ME2.

"We're playing by my rules from here on out. Either fall in line or step aside, but do NOT get in my way."

I was thinking of something like this : " You may be a Spectre now, good for you but just remember who is still in charge of this ship. Don't try to get bold with me"

Modifié par ThomGau, 25 février 2012 - 09:44 .

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

@Lemon
It's not that I don't like the Alliance nor do I mind working for them it's just not having a say that bothers me.
I would rather be part of the Alliance than Cerberus though

[Melra]

ThomGau wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ThomGau wrote...

I tend to play pro-Cerberus and even more so in ME3 imo, I'm not really pleased to be back with the Alliance. I don't think the VS and I will get along well. I guess telling him/her off will be ... interesting

I'm kind of hoping for something similar to how Shepard tells off TIM at the end of ME2.

"We're playing by my rules from here on out. Either fall in line or step aside, but do NOT get in my way."

I was thinking of something like this : " You may be a Spectre now, good for you but just remember who is still in charge of this ship. Don't try to get bold with me"

Except that Kaidan outranks Shepard, pew pew.

[AgitatedLemon]

Melrache wrote...

ThomGau wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ThomGau wrote...

I tend to play pro-Cerberus and even more so in ME3 imo, I'm not really pleased to be back with the Alliance. I don't think the VS and I will get along well. I guess telling him/her off will be ... interesting

I'm kind of hoping for something similar to how Shepard tells off TIM at the end of ME2.

"We're playing by my rules from here on out. Either fall in line or step aside, but do NOT get in my way."

I was thinking of something like this : " You may be a Spectre now, good for you but just remember who is still in charge of this ship. Don't try to get bold with me"

Except that Kaidan outranks Shepard, pew pew.

Which is irrelevant, since Shepard is also a Spectre, and has been a Spectre for far longer than Kaidan. Plus the Normandy was put in Shepard's command before the VS becomes a Spectre.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 25 février 2012 - 09:47 .

[ThomGau]

And yet he doesn't command the Normandy.

[Jynthor]

At this point I wouldn't mind shooting the VS in the face if s/he bothers me, I'm trying to lead a war here.

Modifié par Jynthor, 25 février 2012 - 09:50 .

[Ieldra]

I found Cerberus interesting in their radical approach to technological advancement even in ME1. Some things looked pretty bad, yes, but I don't understand why certain things, like experimenting with Thorian Creepers, were supposed to be evil. That's just stupid. The Creepers are mindless. And Kahoku's hyperbole when he contacted Shepard after "Missing Marines" didn't win him any sympathies either.

Having said that, I'm not exactly pro-Cerberus but pro-radical technological advancement. Against Council regulations and against restrictions inspired by nothing but notions of the sacred, if need be. The problem I have with the Alliance is that for every such research project they apparently initiated, it later turned out that Cerberus was behind it or at least had their hands in it. Including the first Normandy.

Miranda represents such a radical advancement with Lazarus, and she embodies another with her genetic engineering. Both are very desirable things in spite of some problems that come with them. As long as Cerberus does such things it can't be totally bad. As Wilson says, Lazarus is one of the greatest achievements in human history. And any attempt to decry such things by associating them with an organization also responsible for atrocities....just fails with me.

So I find Miranda attractive on three counts: for herself, for what she does, and for what she embodies. "The future of humanity, as evidenced by the perfect Ms. Lawson." And half of all that also applies to Cerberus, even if the other half is unacceptable. The best and the worst of humanity, as Mac Walters (I think) said. I wish I could save the best while throwing the worst away.

[AgitatedLemon]

ThomGau wrote...

And yet he doesn't command the Normandy.

Shepard? Or Kaidan?

[ThomGau]

Kaidan

[Td1984]

Melrache wrote...

ThomGau wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ThomGau wrote...

I tend to play pro-Cerberus and even more so in ME3 imo, I'm not really pleased to be back with the Alliance. I don't think the VS and I will get along well. I guess telling him/her off will be ... interesting

I'm kind of hoping for something similar to how Shepard tells off TIM at the end of ME2.

"We're playing by my rules from here on out. Either fall in line or step aside, but do NOT get in my way."

I was thinking of something like this : " You may be a Spectre now, good for you but just remember who is still in charge of this ship. Don't try to get bold with me"

Except that Kaidan outranks Shepard, pew pew.

I don't think he does. There are different Commander ranks and I believe Shep is the one directly below Captain. Kaidan is not a Captain, so they're probably identical rank. I could (read "probably") be wrong.

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

**** Kaidan that douche ate a nuke

[AgitatedLemon]

Td1984 wrote...

Melrache wrote...

ThomGau wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ThomGau wrote...

I tend to play pro-Cerberus and even more so in ME3 imo, I'm not really pleased to be back with the Alliance. I don't think the VS and I will get along well. I guess telling him/her off will be ... interesting

I'm kind of hoping for something similar to how Shepard tells off TIM at the end of ME2.

"We're playing by my rules from here on out. Either fall in line or step aside, but do NOT get in my way."

I was thinking of something like this : " You may be a Spectre now, good for you but just remember who is still in charge of this ship. Don't try to get bold with me"

Except that Kaidan outranks Shepard, pew pew.

I don't think he does. There are different Commander ranks and I believe Shep is the one directly below Captain. Kaidan is not a Captain, so they're probably identical rank. I could (read "probably") be wrong.

Shepard is a Lt. Commander. Kaidan is a Major in ME3, which puts him above Shepard. Technically though, Shepard outranks everyone because he's a Spectre. Any promotions at this point would be redundant.

Shepard has seniority over Kaidan, since Shepard has been a Spectre for 3 years now, and Kaidan only recently becomes one.

Neither of the VS' take control of the Normandy.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 25 février 2012 - 09:55 .

[Melra]

Td1984 wrote...

Melrache wrote...

ThomGau wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ThomGau wrote...

I tend to play pro-Cerberus and even more so in ME3 imo, I'm not really pleased to be back with the Alliance. I don't think the VS and I will get along well. I guess telling him/her off will be ... interesting

I'm kind of hoping for something similar to how Shepard tells off TIM at the end of ME2.

"We're playing by my rules from here on out. Either fall in line or step aside, but do NOT get in my way."

I was thinking of something like this : " You may be a Spectre now, good for you but just remember who is still in charge of this ship. Don't try to get bold with me"

Except that Kaidan outranks Shepard, pew pew.

I don't think he does. There are different Commander ranks and I believe Shep is the one directly below Captain. Kaidan is not a Captain, so they're probably identical rank. I could (read "probably") be wrong.

According to Alliance ranks he does.

ENLISTED

• Serviceman 3rd class/Private 2nd class
• Serviceman 2nd class/Private 1st class
• Serviceman 1st class/Corporal

NCOs

• Service Chief
• Gunnery Chief
• Operations Chief

OFFICERS

• 2nd Lieutenant
• 1st Lieutenant
• Staff Lieutenant
• Lieutenant Commander
• Staff Commander
• Captain/Major
• Rear Admiral/General
• Admiral
• Fleet Admiral

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

The only rank Kaidan has is Major Douche

[Melra]

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

The only rank Kaidan has is Major Douche

Who's hating now ? 

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

@Melrache
I have an extreme dislike for Kaidan. I thought you knew this already.

[AgitatedLemon]

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

The only rank Kaidan has is Major Douche

So first he's just boring, now he's a douche?

[Collider]

I am pretty disappointed at how Kaidan turned out in ME2/ME3.
I predict my Shepard will not get along with him.