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[DaveExclamationMarkYognaut]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Yeah, let the troll embarrass himself in his, amusing and pathetic fantasy.

Yeah, no amusing and pathetic fantasies on the Miranda thread! Oh, wait...

naledgeborn wrote...

I actually found Ashley's romance
from ME1 far more real and organic as opposed to Miranda's. Other the
the "Renegade Kiss" and "No Promises" it wasn't as impact-full as
Ashley's. I like it (strangely enough) because it is a "ninja-mance" as
opposed to Miranda's where it only becomes an option after her loyalty
mission. I understand that it's "in character" for Miranda to only
develop emotions of a romantic nature with someone she trusts but for
some reason it made it seem kind of shallow. It's like "Hey Shepard, you
saved my sister so I'll give you a shot". Don't get me wrong she's my
favorite LI because of the whole package but I did find her romance path
lacking. Just my opinion no need to bring out the torches.

Yeah, I noticed this too. ME2 romances were the weakest because they basically consisted of 1 more dialogue tree -> sex -> nada, and were sort of squished into the end of the game. I'd imagine it's a consequence of, by ME2, having something like 10 LIs.

[Melra]

Bio Addict wrote...

Before I ask this I'd like to say that I'm a big Miranda fan, she's my canon shep's LI, and I hope she's full time for ME3 but...

Is anyone else hoping her face gets a few touch ups. With Miranda, more than any other LI, it seems to be all about the angles. From some of them she looks gorgeous but from others there's just something a little off. I certainly don't think they did Yvonne Strahovski justice. Thoughts?

I suppose it's hard to do justice someone like Yvonne, but I agree, they could've done a better job. I think quite many want to see some ''fixing'' for ME3.





Though, she's still quite pretty already.



Even with a mask..

Modifié par Melrache, 08 juillet 2011 - 04:33 .

[Master Chief Petty Officer Alcatraz]

Melrache wrote...

Bio Addict wrote...

Before I ask this I'd like to say that I'm a big Miranda fan, she's my canon shep's LI, and I hope she's full time for ME3 but...

Is anyone else hoping her face gets a few touch ups. With Miranda, more than any other LI, it seems to be all about the angles. From some of them she looks gorgeous but from others there's just something a little off. I certainly don't think they did Yvonne Strahovski justice. Thoughts?

I suppose it's hard to do justice someone like Yvonne, but I agree, they could've done a better job. I think quite many want to see some ''fixing'' for ME3.





Though, she's still quite pretty already.



Even with a mask..

she is so beautiul 

[Td1984]

jtav wrote...

The only correlation I've noticed is that Miranda fans don't tend to like Jack or Tali and vice versa.

I don't really care much for those 2 either. As for Mordin, I'm kind of indifferent about him. 

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Master Chief Petty Officer Alcatraz wrote...

she is so beautiul 

Yes she really is Beautiful<3<3<3<3 AGREE 100%




Both Miri and Yvonne<3<3<3<3












*SIGHS* <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 08 juillet 2011 - 05:29 .

[Ieldra]

naledgeborn wrote...
I actually found Ashley's romance from ME1 far more real and organic as opposed to Miranda's. Other the the "Renegade Kiss" and "No Promises" it wasn't as impact-full as Ashley's. I like it (strangely enough) because it is a "ninja-mance" as opposed to Miranda's where it only becomes an option after her loyalty mission. I understand that it's "in character" for Miranda to only develop emotions of a romantic nature with someone she trusts but for some reason it made it seem kind of shallow. It's like "Hey Shepard, you saved my sister so I'll give you a shot". Don't get me wrong she's my favorite LI because of the whole package but I did find her romance path lacking. Just my opinion no need to bring out the torches.

Can't agree with you here. I found Miranda's two main romance conversations quite satisfying if you played them right, while Ashley's are merely OK. Only Ashley's actual romance scene was so much better than Miranda's that there is no comparison. As opposed to Miranda's, you get the impression that a real connection has been established between the two, and that the sex is nothing more than the natural consequence of that rapport. With Miranda you do achieve that connection in the previous scene, but the romance scene is not a convincing follow-up. Sex in the engine room might be cool, but to make a romance scene of it - as opposed to a "mere" sex scene - either a lead-in or a lead-out dialogue would have been needed. Both would've been best - like in ME1. 

Modifié par Ieldra2, 08 juillet 2011 - 05:59 .

[jtav]

What made Ashley's romance for me was the locker scene. The concern, saying I love you without saying it. I never felt any romantic connection to Miranda. The romance is six minutes long. It's hard to be invested in that.

On a more positive note, I've been playing ME2 on a new machine, and Miranda looks absolutely, stunningly gorgeous. I did a double take.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Miri is ALWAYS ABSOLUTELY AND STUNNINGLY GORGEOUS NO MATTER WHAT IMO <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 08 juillet 2011 - 06:12 .

[Vertigo_1]

jtav wrote...

What made Ashley's romance for me was the locker scene. The concern, saying I love you without saying it. I never felt any romantic connection to Miranda. The romance is six minutes long. It's hard to be invested in that.

On a more positive note, I've been playing ME2 on a new machine, and Miranda looks absolutely, stunningly gorgeous. I did a double take.

The romance flowed better in ME1 IMO, you could see them start from the beginning with their facial reactions to Shepards responses (paragon) when he wakes up in the med bay.

Of course you could RP the ME2 romance with Miranda starting at the beginning with her keeping her emotions to herself and not giving anything away.  Meaning she had some feelings for Shepard but she kept it to herself.  The LM being done would be load off of her shoulders and a place where she finally accepts the fact that she is falling in love with Shepard.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 08 juillet 2011 - 06:29 .

[jtav]

Not always, but when the lighting and angles are right, she's irresistible. I happen to be playing a besotted Renegade, and Miranda's effect is very noticeable.

[Vertigo_1]

jtav wrote...

Not always, but when the lighting and angles are right, she's irresistible. I happen to be playing a besotted Renegade, and Miranda's effect is very noticeable.

I mean a possible romance was hinted in ME1 with Ashley right at the beginning, this was not so in ME2.  There were also other conversations ealy on that hinted at that (tinfoil miniskirt comment to MaleShep).

Although you could take the attitude she has towards Shepard in the Minuteman station as the beginning of a romance.
The "I hate you so much that I might be falling for you" thing (I don't know what they call it in TVtropes)

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 08 juillet 2011 - 06:33 .

[Melra]

I also liked the way ME1's romances progressed and the fact you couldn't rush it, things happened when they did, you couldn't just go there in one session and make heaps of progress. Made it feel more realistic. It's bit late for ME3 now, but they could come up with something new for the romances. Not LOTSB treatment, something else.

[jtav]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

jtav wrote...

Not always, but when the lighting and angles are right, she's irresistible. I happen to be playing a besotted Renegade, and Miranda's effect is very noticeable.

I mean a possible romance was hinted in ME1 with Ashley right at the beginning, this was not so in ME2. There were also other conversations ealy on that hinted at that (tinfoil miniskirt comment to MaleShep).

Although you could take the attitude she has towards Shepard in the Minuteman station as the beginning of a romance.
The "I hate you so much that I might be falling for you" thing (I don't know what they call it in TVtropes)

I type slowly Vertigo. Didn't see your post. One, I hate that trope. Two; i've tried RP'ing in various ways. Doesn't work. My hatred has grown, not decreased over time. I just don't like Shep/Miranda and prefer to ignore it as much as humanly possible.

[Vertigo_1]

jtav wrote...
I type slowly Vertigo. Didn't see your post. One, I hate that trope. Two; i've tried RP'ing in various ways. Doesn't work. My hatred has grown, not decreased over time. I just don't like Shep/Miranda and prefer to ignore it as much as humanly possible.

My apologies then

I tend to type fast

I suppose we are at opposite sides when it come to that trope and Shep/Miranda

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 08 juillet 2011 - 06:47 .

[Ieldra]

Melrache wrote...
I also liked the way ME1's romances progressed and the fact you couldn't rush it, things happened when they did, you couldn't just go there in one session and make heaps of progress. Made it feel more realistic. It's bit late for ME3 now, but they could come up with something new for the romances. Not LOTSB treatment, something else.

Indeed. I would've preferred it if the romance progressed along the main plot line in ME1 - first after Horizon, second after Collector Base, third after Reaper IFF. That the loyalty missions were prerequisites made that impossible. Too bad, really.

[Melra]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Melrache wrote...
I also liked the way ME1's romances progressed and the fact you couldn't rush it, things happened when they did, you couldn't just go there in one session and make heaps of progress. Made it feel more realistic. It's bit late for ME3 now, but they could come up with something new for the romances. Not LOTSB treatment, something else.

Indeed. I would've preferred it if the romance progressed along the main plot line in ME1 - first after Horizon, second after Collector Base, third after Reaper IFF. That the loyalty missions were prerequisites made that impossible. Too bad, really.

Yeah... Just goes to show, how ''too much'' freedom is bad. Everything in restraint and it'll be good. I wouldn't have minded, if it was more linear to make it feel more connected package. I mean the game as a whole, not just romances. I guess that's one of the things that ruined my immersion for me, along with the loading screens.

They could make the LIs more... ehm.. or rather less stuck at one place, standing with smile on their face ''doing something ''really'' important'', when you walk in. Like with ME1, the most progress you made during special scenes. In ME2, you just might get a bit of stuff on their loyalty mission, then you have to go back into their place and ''lock it in''. Variation could be nice change...

[Vertigo_1]

Melrache wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Melrache wrote...
I also liked the way ME1's romances progressed and the fact you couldn't rush it, things happened when they did, you couldn't just go there in one session and make heaps of progress. Made it feel more realistic. It's bit late for ME3 now, but they could come up with something new for the romances. Not LOTSB treatment, something else.

Indeed. I would've preferred it if the romance progressed along the main plot line in ME1 - first after Horizon, second after Collector Base, third after Reaper IFF. That the loyalty missions were prerequisites made that impossible. Too bad, really.

Yeah... Just goes to show, how ''too much'' freedom is bad. Everything in restraint and it'll be good. I wouldn't have minded, if it was more linear to make it feel more connected package. I mean the game as a whole, not just romances. I guess that's one of the things that ruined my immersion for me, along with the loading screens.

They could make the LIs more... ehm.. or rather less stuck at one place, standing with smile on their face ''doing something ''really'' important'', when you walk in. Like with ME1, the most progress you made during special scenes. In ME2, you just might get a bit of stuff on their loyalty mission, then you have to go back into their place and ''lock it in''. Variation could be nice change...

I agree with both posts, but again I think it was done like this due to the sheer amount of squadmates and LI's in ME2.
I believe with the plan to go back to a smaller squad we will see the interaction mirror ME1, not sure what that says about Miranda though..

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 08 juillet 2011 - 08:45 .

[Td1984]

On the console (360 in particular), is there a recommended graphics setting (to get the lighting just right)?

[jtav]

Which is why we're getting a smaller squad. If it were me, I would have made Miranda and Jacob the sole romances in ME2, made them bisexual, and lavished writing attention on them. Though I'd be very sad to miss the Talimance,

[Jebel Krong]

Melrache wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Melrache wrote...
I also liked the way ME1's romances progressed and the fact you couldn't rush it, things happened when they did, you couldn't just go there in one session and make heaps of progress. Made it feel more realistic. It's bit late for ME3 now, but they could come up with something new for the romances. Not LOTSB treatment, something else.

Indeed. I would've preferred it if the romance progressed along the main plot line in ME1 - first after Horizon, second after Collector Base, third after Reaper IFF. That the loyalty missions were prerequisites made that impossible. Too bad, really.

Yeah... Just goes to show, how ''too much'' freedom is bad. Everything in restraint and it'll be good. I wouldn't have minded, if it was more linear to make it feel more connected package. I mean the game as a whole, not just romances. I guess that's one of the things that ruined my immersion for me, along with the loading screens.

They could make the LIs more... ehm.. or rather less stuck at one place, standing with smile on their face ''doing something ''really'' important'', when you walk in. Like with ME1, the most progress you made during special scenes. In ME2, you just might get a bit of stuff on their loyalty mission, then you have to go back into their place and ''lock it in''. Variation could be nice change...

ugh. me1's "forced" slow pacing just covered a lack of interactivity with squadmates, nothing else, and it felt very forced indeed at times. ME2 is better, but the depth is still not great most of the time ("calibrations" etc).

[Homebound]

looking at some of these screenshots i think there might be something wrong with my copy of the game, in my copy, miranda's face is horrifying. Dx

no seriously, she has these wierd shadows and her face isnt as "smooth". best way i can describe it.

[DaveExclamationMarkYognaut]

Hellbound555 wrote...

looking at some of these screenshots i think there might be something wrong with my copy of the game, in my copy, miranda's face is horrifying. Dx

no seriously, she has these wierd shadows and her face isnt as "smooth". best way i can describe it.

Oh, that's just her face.

[Caihn]

@Melrache

I see you still use my graphic settings  
But I think you should lower the gamma & brightness level in the settings menu. 

To compare :





I think her hair also looks better with less brightness and gamma.

[Caihn]

Td1984 wrote...

On the console (360 in particular), is there a recommended graphics setting (to get the lighting just right)?

I don't think you can do something on console, sorry :/

[MisterJB]

Check it out, everyone. Miranda's pin up shirt is now for sale.
Gotta get me one of these.