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[redBadger14]

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

ME3 is going to be great I'm not letting a bunch of crybabies ruin it for me. I know this may sound strange but maybe playing the game your self then judging it might make more sense than oh no some random assh0le said this I'm going to slit my wrists now.

Swagga you are getting a little out of line here. I can probably point you to many many threads that feature whining and assh*le-ishness in a much stronger and much more annoying fashion than here. If anything, these guys aren't whining or being assh*oles, just voicing their concerns.

Would you rather be in a worse part of the forums? 

[redBadger14]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Miracle....we need a Miracle. That's all we have left now. Even so, the chances of a Miracle happening are very low nowadays.

We don't need a miracle at all. All we need is for the game to drop, for us to get a hold of it and play it to the fullest extent possible, and then pass down judgement. 

Until then, concerns are just that. Concerns. Nothing more.

[Daggerville]

Here are some interesting facts I'd like to point out as my final attempt at 'reducing' the pessimism:

(The leaked endings are all HUGE cliffhangers of the worst sort. Way too many questions left unanswered)

Gamestar, the german magazine, said the ending(s) leaves no cliffhangers

(Leaked endings are only 3 in number. And having two variations makes no sense. You could easily do what ME1 and 2 did and make subtle alterations based on Paragon/Renegade. There's no reason to have 2 distinct endings for each leaning.)

Interview confirms six different endings.

(Leakers "claim" only certain LIs appear during ending sequence)

That's a huge load of **** and everyone here knows that. Bioware would never exclude people's decisions and personal canon.

(Leakers claim "No 'perfect' ending" like ME2)

Again, load of ****. ME1 let you get an optimal ending, and your decisions had no bearing on getting that ending. ME2's optimal ending took some work, but was doable and satisfactory.
Suddenly having ME3 say "Nope, no happy ending whatsoever" is completely against Bioware's track record and out of character considering.

Modifié par Daggerville, 28 février 2012 - 05:38 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

This was like a no win scenario from the start. Geez, BioWare. What was the point of Even creating Miri? Did you only throw her together for cheat bait, not caring for the vital role she plays in the series? You see her as only cannon fodder? Why allow us to have a Romantic Relationship with her and getting our hopes up only to screw us over in the end? I don't understand you, BioWare. Is Miri only a ruse to you?

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

^ haha told you ****ing crybaby. You never learn even when I try so hard to be nice

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

@redbadger
I'm expecting a lockdown any day here now

[MACharlie1]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

This was like a no win scenario from the start. Geez, BioWare. What was the point of Even creating Miri? Did you only throw her together for cheat bait, not caring for the vital role she plays in the series? You see her as only cannon fodder? Why allow us to have a Romantic Relationship with her and getting our hopes up only to screw us over in the end? I don't understand you, BioWare. Is Miri only a ruse to you?

You do know Miranda's purpose in ME2 wasn't to be your ****** material/imaginary girlfriend...right?

Plot-wise? She was meant to be the lady who brought Shepard back to life and get him into Cerberus and move the plot along with Cerberus and the Suicide mission. Thats it really. After that, it's just her personal issues and the romance. You can't even argue "OMG CERBERUS!" Because she quit. Even though she knows TIM personally, Cerberus is built in such a way that Miranda is just as important as the next leader of a cell. Any of them drop and Cerberus is uncompromised and TIM can go about his merry little way. 

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

@MACharlie1
Let the rage bombs commence LOL

[jtav]

Actually that's no longer true. She got a bit of a retroactive promotion.

[Legion64]

MACharlie1 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

This was like a no win scenario from the start. Geez, BioWare. What was the point of Even creating Miri? Did you only throw her together for cheat bait, not caring for the vital role she plays in the series? You see her as only cannon fodder? Why allow us to have a Romantic Relationship with her and getting our hopes up only to screw us over in the end? I don't understand you, BioWare. Is Miri only a ruse to you?

You do know Miranda's purpose in ME2 wasn't to be your ****** material/imaginary girlfriend...right?

Plot-wise? She was meant to be the lady who brought Shepard back to life and get him into Cerberus and move the plot along with Cerberus and the Suicide mission. Thats it really. After that, it's just her personal issues and the romance. You can't even argue "OMG CERBERUS!" Because she quit. Even though she knows TIM personally, Cerberus is built in such a way that Miranda is just as important as the next leader of a cell. Any of them drop and Cerberus is uncompromised and TIM can go about his merry little way. 

This, 101, I think you're a little too into Miranda.

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

@jtav
Can you elaborate?

[KreagonPL]

Heh I think I read enough spoilers today that I don't even have to play the game.
Still let's wait till game release and then we will see how it turns out.
If leaked info is true then Bioware just don't know how to finish great trilogy and don't care about players opinions.
Then rage and hell can unleashed on forum.

But for now we only have leaked info that is not confirmed.
And thing that makes me wonder is why Bioware would send copy of ME 3 in "space " knowing that someone who finds it will beat the game and write spoilers right away.
If romances or game itself is as bad as leaked info claim that it's just shoot to the head for bioware.
They would know that people would cancel or don't buy the game.
So either Bioware think people are retards will read info and buy the game.
or someone is just trolling around.

Hope my english is understandable

Modifié par KreagonPL, 28 février 2012 - 05:55 .

[keegdarv1]

Wow can’t believe it’s been over two years since I last post here and been to these forums

May I make a suggest that people wait to play the game before jumping to all this complaining because at this point it’s pointless as it wont change and it may not all be true what your hearing(why are you trying to spoil the game for yourself cause that all your really doing at this point)

Also I like to suggest that if it turns true and Miranda role don’t meet what many of you or myself wouldn’t like that you fight for dlc for all ME2 character that way you get more that just one characters support you get may fans support, at this point if the ME2 didn’t all get screwed their will be enough unhappy fans that if enough people fight for it, it would be worth bioware’s time to make as they have prove they listen to fans for better or worse

All will be known for sure in a week know matter what anyone decides to do, so just wait and don’t be afraid to let bioware know through forums, email or your style of play that your not happy if that happens

[jtav]

@TNS (highlight to view)

*Miranda refers to herself as former Cerberus 2IC in the leak*

[Errol Dnamyx]

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

@MACharlie1
Let the rage bombs commence LOL

LOL is no substitute for punctuation.
Also, your attempt to elevate yourself above other posters only makes you look a retard. That just doesn't work, since all of your posts look like they were written by a barely literate 12 year old.

Modifié par Errol Dnamyx, 28 février 2012 - 05:59 .

[MACharlie1]

Regardless of her position, not a single person is so important in an organization built like Cerberus - which bears the resemblance in structure to actual terrorist groups and drug cartels. It's built so that these cells are acting interdependently from one another. One goes down and the rest is not compromised. Miranda goes down and Cerberus isn't compromised. Miranda flips (as in betray against) Cerberus isn't compromised.

And with a guy like TIM constantly moving his base around...there isn't much Miranda can do post-leaving it. And before anyone starts going on about how flipping (ever since witness protection) has led to a decrease in organized crime - it only helps if you're trying to make an arrest and get enough evidence to convict. I don't think thats going to do much when your court system has been blown up by Reapers and it's all out war. 

Modifié par MACharlie1, 28 février 2012 - 06:12 .

[AgitatedLemon]

MACharlie1 wrote...

Regardless of her position, not a single person is so important in an organization built like Cerberus - which bears the resemblance in structure to actual terrorist groups and drug cartels. It's built so that these cells are acting interdependently from one another. One goes down and the rest is not compromised. Miranda goes down and Cerberus isn't compromised. Miranda flips (as in betray against) Cerberus isn't compromised.

And with a guy like TIM constantly moving his base around...there isn't much Miranda can do post-leaving it. And before anyone starts going on about how flipping (ever since witness protection) has led to a decrease in organized crime - it only helps if you're trying to make an arrest and get enough evidence to convict. I don't think thats going to do much when your court system has been blown up by Reapers and it's all out war. 

actually, Miranda defecting from Cerberus opens a big can of worms for TIM. She was his 2IC after all.

[MACharlie1]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Regardless of her position, not a single person is so important in an organization built like Cerberus - which bears the resemblance in structure to actual terrorist groups and drug cartels. It's built so that these cells are acting interdependently from one another. One goes down and the rest is not compromised. Miranda goes down and Cerberus isn't compromised. Miranda flips (as in betray against) Cerberus isn't compromised.

And with a guy like TIM constantly moving his base around...there isn't much Miranda can do post-leaving it. And before anyone starts going on about how flipping (ever since witness protection) has led to a decrease in organized crime - it only helps if you're trying to make an arrest and get enough evidence to convict. I don't think thats going to do much when your court system has been blown up by Reapers and it's all out war. 

actually, Miranda defecting from Cerberus opens a big can of worms for TIM. She was his 2IC after all.

Reread last paragraph. Miranda primary weapon against TIM would be intel. She might know some Cerberus facilities...but not all. What good is that when your're preoccuipied with a Reaper invasion? She doesn't know where TIM is. Sure, she can testify and say they did this and that but what good is that when the galaxy is burning and you're lacking a proper court system to arrest, try and convict TIM? As I've said, even removing one player doesn't impact the organization.  

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

@Errol Dnamyx
Oh no we got a badass over here.
It's a forum thread Adolf I'm not to concerned about my grammar.
I don't elevate myself above others so don't try to sound all noble.
Your opinion is worthless, this exchange is over.

[Raizo]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Regardless of her position, not a single person is so important in an organization built like Cerberus - which bears the resemblance in structure to actual terrorist groups and drug cartels. It's built so that these cells are acting interdependently from one another. One goes down and the rest is not compromised. Miranda goes down and Cerberus isn't compromised. Miranda flips (as in betray against) Cerberus isn't compromised.

And with a guy like TIM constantly moving his base around...there isn't much Miranda can do post-leaving it. And before anyone starts going on about how flipping (ever since witness protection) has led to a decrease in organized crime - it only helps if you're trying to make an arrest and get enough evidence to convict. I don't think thats going to do much when your court system has been blown up by Reapers and it's all out war. 

actually, Miranda defecting from Cerberus opens a big can of worms for TIM. She was his 2IC after all.

As much as I love Miranda and as much as want to defend her importance in the overall ME plot  by implying how important she is/was to Cerebus I don't remember it ever being stated that she was TIM's second in command. TIm doesn't strike me as the type of person who has a second in command, He has investors/business partners who share his goals, project managers ( like Miri ), soldiers ( Kai Leng ) adn then lackies ( all the Cerebus staff on the Normandy SR-2 in ME2 ) but I don't think he has a second in command at all.

At the very most Miri was head of the Lazarus Cell. Seing how much time and money TIm and Cerebus put into the Lazarus project it goes without saying that TIm must have had an awful lot of faith in her knowledge and her leadership skills to entust such an important task to her., he probably trusted her to a certain degree and would not have seen her leaving Cerebus at the end of ME2 coming. She also admits to being one of the few people to have met him face to face ( as seen in the ME2 intro ) which also implies a certain amount of trust.

[goofyomnivore]

To play devil's advocate to your 'facts'.

(The leaked endings are all HUGE cliffhangers of the worst sort. Way too many questions left unanswered)

The plot might be shocking or "OMG!" but the plot as weird as it is laid out for us and wrapped up. We know the fates of all the major players and motives. A cliffhanger would be a shocking revelation like more Reapers ascending into the Milkey Way after you destroy those that already invading.

Interview confirms six different endings.

Three with each having a good and bad equals six.

(Leakers claim "No 'perfect' ending" like ME2)

I don't see how your assumption is anymore fact than their alleged assumptions.

[Raizo]

@MACharlie1

Are you a Miri fan or Miri hater because you seem to be a hater which begs the question, why are you here in this thread? If you don't like a character then don't go into thier fan thread and post negative comments there, I don't post negative comments in the Liara thread for example.

[ViSeiRa]

@strive: you're right about the endings... only it's 3, the first has very good, somewhat good and total sh!t versions, the second has good and bad versions and the third is as is.

Modifié par ViSeirA, 28 février 2012 - 06:43 .

[Legion64]

So everyone is going to get the same ending?

[MACharlie1]

Raizo wrote...

@MACharlie1

Are you a Miri fan or Miri hater because you seem to be a hater which begs the question, why are you here in this thread? If you don't like a character then don't go into thier fan thread and post negative comments there, I don't post negative comments in the Liara thread for example.

Oh I love Miranda - easily one of my favorites. I'm just realistic about it. Not many people can say that they have ever stepped back and actually judged her (and the game) fairly and realistically? I just see far too many fanboys here.