It doesn't appear to go much beyond the leaked script. But we don't fully know yet.Alex Arterius wrote...
Do you guys know Mirandas role fully now from the people who have played ME3?
Modifié par Ieldra2, 03 mars 2012 - 11:25 .
Exactly, I forgot to mention that, we had the same thing in ME2.Ieldra2 wrote...
Indeed. I'm finding myself in the usual situation of having my suspension of disbelief completely broken by the endings. In spite of having talked often about it when I complained about certain things, that hasn't happened in years, and no game managed to do it until now.jtav wrote...
It bothers me too. Her idealism attracted me to the character. Cerberus attracted me to the character. But I can see the puppet strings now, and refuse to hold her mischaracterization against her. BW had a story they wanted to tell, and to hell with character, logic, or lore. I'll fix this.
@ThomGau, AgitatedLemon:
Here's a symptom of what we're talking about: Miranda has been high up in Cerberus. In spite of that, Kelly contributes more ex-Cerberus resources to the fight against the Reapers than Miranda. Kelly! Can you imagine that? Her having been Cerberus is completely ignored while having been a large part of her identity for years. Her idealism regarding the advancement of the human species can take a backseat for some time, but it doesn't appear to be referenced even in one line and completely ignored as a motivation.
Clearly, character integrity and believable character development weren't high on the priority list of the writers. Given the endings, I wonder if lore and logic were on the priority list at all. It doesn't help that I hate family drama, and that we've seen "rescue Oriana" before.
Skullheart wrote...
No, she won't have a romance scene, neither a pillow talk. That's exclusive for Liara, VS, Garrus, Tali, Cortez and the other girl.
Jynthor wrote...
Exactly, I forgot to mention that, we had the same thing in ME2.Ieldra2 wrote...
Indeed. I'm finding myself in the usual situation of having my suspension of disbelief completely broken by the endings. In spite of having talked often about it when I complained about certain things, that hasn't happened in years, and no game managed to do it until now.jtav wrote...
It bothers me too. Her idealism attracted me to the character. Cerberus attracted me to the character. But I can see the puppet strings now, and refuse to hold her mischaracterization against her. BW had a story they wanted to tell, and to hell with character, logic, or lore. I'll fix this.
@ThomGau, AgitatedLemon:
Here's a symptom of what we're talking about: Miranda has been high up in Cerberus. In spite of that, Kelly contributes more ex-Cerberus resources to the fight against the Reapers than Miranda. Kelly! Can you imagine that? Her having been Cerberus is completely ignored while having been a large part of her identity for years. Her idealism regarding the advancement of the human species can take a backseat for some time, but it doesn't appear to be referenced even in one line and completely ignored as a motivation.
Clearly, character integrity and believable character development weren't high on the priority list of the writers. Given the endings, I wonder if lore and logic were on the priority list at all. It doesn't help that I hate family drama, and that we've seen "rescue Oriana" before.
AgitatedLemon wrote...
Skullheart wrote...
No, she won't have a romance scene, neither a pillow talk. That's exclusive for Liara, VS, Garrus, Tali, Cortez and the other girl.
What about that new dialogue?
Some of that implies a romance scene.
Modifié par Skullheart, 03 mars 2012 - 11:32 .
Skullheart wrote...
AgitatedLemon wrote...
Skullheart wrote...
No, she won't have a romance scene, neither a pillow talk. That's exclusive for Liara, VS, Garrus, Tali, Cortez and the other girl.
What about that new dialogue?
Some of that implies a romance scene.
There's masn much new dialogue.
Alex Arterius wrote...
Pffft, still not sounding all that great then. What's the point of Bioware even creating her as a romance if they're not even gonna fully conclude it. The whole thing seems sooooo pointless.
Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 03 mars 2012 - 11:35 .
AgitatedLemon wrote...
Alex Arterius wrote...
Pffft, still not sounding all that great then. What's the point of Bioware even creating her as a romance if they're not even gonna fully conclude it. The whole thing seems sooooo pointless.
I'll be 100% honest.
There are times when I really wish Miranda had never been created as a character. We would all be missing out on greatness, but we would also be saving ourselves a mountain of disappointment.
Skullheart wrote...
They needed an attractibe character to be bait for a Shepard who romanced Ashley.
AgitatedLemon wrote...
Skullheart wrote...
They needed an attractibe character to be bait for a Shepard who romanced Ashley.
And now they made Ashley attractive.
That was officially pointless.
Alex Arterius wrote...
I mean when ME3 was first announced and I got thinking about who would be on the squad, i'm sure me like many others thought Miranda was a sure fire positive to be right at the top of the list, way above most charcters who are on the squad now even perhaps.
And i'm sure most of us thought she would have huge main plot relevance.
Couldn't have said it better. They made her safe and boring. I just don't care anymore after the endings were revealed. I'll pretend the character I came to like like no other in video games before is still under there somewhere and rewrite the endings and that's that.Alex Arterius wrote...
I mean when ME3 was first announced and I got thinking about who would be on the squad, i'm sure me like many others thought Miranda was a sure fire positive to be right at the top of the list, way above most charcters who are on the squad now even perhaps. And i'm sure most of us thought she would have huge main plot relevance.
Now we're acting like we should be greatful for Bioware even giveing us a romance scene and finishing that realtionship off and then even goiveing her some sufficient link to the Ceberus plot in ME3 which she was a member of most of her life, after they made such a big deal out of these two things in the second game I can only ask mysef why... if this is the treatment they're giveing to the charcter now, what was the point in even creating her?. The whole thing is just straw clutching now us holding onto to meager seconds of extra dialouge :L one of the best charcaters has been reduced to a mere shaow of her former self.
Ieldra2 wrote...
There is evidence for a romance scene, damn it!
I agree they derailed her character, and I'll rant about that enough after the game is out and I've seen for myself, but the romance content appears to be good.
Modifié par Mr Plow, 04 mars 2012 - 12:00 .
Skullheart wrote...
But the love scene still isn't in stone, without more evidence than the audio files.
AgitatedLemon wrote...
Skullheart wrote...
But the love scene still isn't in stone, without more evidence than the audio files.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious.
Alex Arterius wrote...
AgitatedLemon wrote...
Skullheart wrote...
But the love scene still isn't in stone, without more evidence than the audio files.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious.
What are these audio files of which you speak of?
First Reaction: Miranda, is so good to hear her voice!AgitatedLemon wrote...
Alex Arterius wrote...
AgitatedLemon wrote...
Skullheart wrote...
But the love scene still isn't in stone, without more evidence than the audio files.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious.
What are these audio files of which you speak of?
Here
Warning: Don't go if you want to avoid spoilers.
The Tesla Effect wrote...
First Reaction: Miranda, is so good to hear her voice!
After Hearing all of the audio: WTF did you do to her Bioware, just why!
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