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[Ieldra]

Tallis Lucienis wrote...
So I take it there is no romance scene between Miranda and Shepard after Sanctuary?

The scene on the Citadel is all there is. I thought it was ok - but compare this with the scenes of Ashley, Liara and the new LIs.  

[ThomGau]

Ieldra2 wrote...

The scene on the Citadel is all there is. I thought it was ok - but compare this with the scenes of Ashley, Liara and the new LIs.  

Same here
I'm ok with Miranda's ME3 romance scene in itself but compared with Ash etc ... that's quite a cheap shot from BW.

Modifié par ThomGau, 08 mars 2012 - 11:31 .

[enayasoul]

ThomGau wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

The scene on the Citadel is all there is. I thought it was ok - but compare this with the scenes of Ashley, Liara and the new LIs.  

Same here
I'm ok with Miranda's ME3 romance scene in itself but compared with Ash etc ... that's quite a cheap shot from BW.

I don't understand why BioWare didn't add any "wake up" scene with Miranda or Shepard. Or maybe having Shepard look at Miranda sleeping as he left? I mean really?  That would show some emotion.  Or they both kiss each other and Shepard leaves. Sheesh.  I have to head cannon this stuff.

[enayasoul]

And another thing... Would Miranda glow blue eezo like Liara did? Or is that strictly Asari biotics at work?

[enayasoul]

And why can't Miranda and Shepard tell each other they love them? without one having to die? Is there's a reason? Does Miranda have to be forced to express she loves him with that extreme condition?

[Roxpanda1690]

enayasoul wrote...

And why can't Miranda and Shepard tell each other they love them? without one having to die? Is there's a reason? Does Miranda have to be forced to express she loves him with that extreme condition?

I don't know I never got the opition to tell Miranda It was on auto Diologue for that scene,were we  told we could tell Miranda our selves.

For a Game based around your dicisions I feel they left us with very little choice for the last game 8/...

Though the game was good and i got the whole self sacrifice thing because from what i understand in both choices the ending seemed grim for Shepard I could be wrong it's what I understood from it.

I Just feel like Miranda was lacking and Maybe it's me just being bitter from that and I don't recall who said it but the game ends with Space Gilligan's Island.

Modifié par Roxpanda1690, 08 mars 2012 - 12:44 .

[flemm]

ThomGau wrote...

Same here
I'm ok with Miranda's ME3 romance scene in itself but compared with Ash etc ... that's quite a cheap shot from BW.

Well, especially when you consider that, seemingly, breaking up with her = death sentence for her 

So, poorly implemented romance content makes sense from that point of view

[Jynthor]

Well, about time. I can post again. So is Miri's role worse or better than we expected?

[ThomGau]

flemm wrote...
Well, especially when you consider that, seemingly, breaking up with her = death sentence for her 

So, poorly implemented romance content makes sense from that point of view

So this is confirmed ? I thought (and hoped) this was just rumor we had based on the leak.
How does she die if you do break up with her ?

Modifié par ThomGau, 08 mars 2012 - 03:02 .

[ThomGau]

enayasoul wrote...

I don't understand why BioWare didn't add any "wake up" scene with Miranda or Shepard. Or maybe having Shepard look at Miranda sleeping as he left? I mean really?  That would show some emotion.  Or they both kiss each other and Shepard leaves. Sheesh.  I have to head cannon this stuff.

Agreed, it really seems abrupt.
I would have loved to see Shepard looking at Miranda passionately or both cuddling and kissing each other. I would have been " Dawwwww " but no. I'll head canon it too.

*sarcastic mode*
If you think about it, ME3 is the ultimate role-playing experience.
With all these omissions, you are able to head cannon so much things : the romance scene itself, after the romance scene etc... and even the endings. This is mind-blowing.

Modifié par ThomGau, 08 mars 2012 - 03:23 .

[jbajcar]

enayasoul wrote...

And why can't Miranda and Shepard tell each other they love them? without one having to die? Is there's a reason? Does Miranda have to be forced to express she loves him with that extreme condition?

I don't know why Bioware stayed away from the three words. It's silly really. I would of at the very least had an "I love you" exchange in the last vidcomm scene if I were writing that scene.

[Ieldra]

ThomGau wrote...

flemm wrote...
Well, especially when you consider that, seemingly, breaking up with her = death sentence for her 

So, poorly implemented romance content makes sense from that point of view

So this is confirmed ? I thought (and hoped) this was just rumor we had based on the leak.
How does she die if you do break up with her ?

Still speculation, but plausible.

It goes like this: if you break up with her, she won't contact you again. Which means you can't warn her about Kai Leng. Which means she isn't prepared for him.

Or so I suspect. Haven't seen it of course.

[Ieldra]

jbajcar wrote...

enayasoul wrote...

And why can't Miranda and Shepard tell each other they love them? without one having to die? Is there's a reason? Does Miranda have to be forced to express she loves him with that extreme condition?

I don't know why Bioware stayed away from the three words. It's silly really. I would of at the very least had an "I love you" exchange in the last vidcomm scene if I were writing that scene.

I think "I love you" has become trite. It's appropriate in the death version, but usually the sentiment is better expressed in other ways.

[ThomGau]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Still speculation, but plausible.

It goes like this: if you break up with her, she won't contact you again. Which means you can't warn her about Kai Leng. Which means she isn't prepared for him.

Or so I suspect. Haven't seen it of course.

If you can't warn her about Leng this is indeed plausible.
It makes sense she doesn't contact you again, the first man she truely loved just broke her heart, I heard she even runs off crying when Shepard tells her that. I guess this is what you get for being a jerk.

However I don't know if this is OOC or not. She loved him but could that broken love overcome the strong women she is ? Well, seemingly yes but ...

[jtav]

I've been thinking about her death and how I would have done it. I'd have putt it on a point system. She's dead if you never talk tor her or if she's unloyal. But warning her about Leng, giving the Alliance data or having her speak to Oriana (who now knows and trusts Miranda enough to follow Miranda's directions at a key point) and a reputation check that requires a full bar. So four points, with Miranda's survival requiring three. Just to make it interesting: in her first conversation Miranda will offer to keep an eye out for useful intel. You get a couple of small assets, but you also lose a point, which means you now must do everything else right.

[flemm]

ThomGau wrote...

So this is confirmed ? I thought (and hoped) this was just rumor we had based on the leak.
How does she die if you do break up with her ?

I haven't personally confirmed it, but it seems that she won't contact you again after the first dialogue if you break up, which would guarantee her death for the reasons Ieldra states.

In light of that, the half-hearted implementation of the romance becomes laughable, really.

ThomGau wrote...
However I don't know if this is OOC or not.

I'm not sure that her deciding not to contact Shepard again is out of character, but I'm pretty sure that designing that scenario to be an automatic death and pushing it as the canon/preferred scenario is another thing entirely, and separate from the question of whether it is "in character" or not 

Modifié par flemm, 08 mars 2012 - 04:03 .

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

Im enjoying Miranda in ME3

[redBadger14]

I'm enjoying all the characters thus far. Miranda and others not being squadmates makes the world feel more alive than before.

ME3 really is fantastic.

[Melra]

redBadger14 wrote...

I'm enjoying all the characters thus far. Miranda and others not being squadmates makes the world feel more alive than before.

ME3 really is fantastic.

Indeed, when I first saw the other characters and was surprsied about how great it all was, I thought I was most likely getting my hopes up for nothing. I was wrong, the first encounter with Miri was great, I enjoyed it far more than any point during the ME2 arc. I am really enjoying, even though I feel like I am bombarded with info and tasks constantly, when in ME2 you'd lose the sense of urgency after each mission.

I don't have time to miss Miri on the ship, but when I met her it was great. Can't wait to see her again, but until then the two characters have other things to take care of.

[MisterJB]

This is quite old and it's definitively not the best screenshot, however, I don't believe anyone ever brought this up before.

I was playing through Korlus (Grunt's Recruitment Mission) and upon hearing the Tank Bred's story about how Okeer rejected him for not being perfect, I started musing on what a tragic loss it was that Miranda didn't pronounce herself on a subject she would be so familiar with.
Then this popped up.



And I am left wondering if Miranda was talking from personal experience and if the devs actually saw the connection and this was intentional.

Modifié par MisterJB, 08 mars 2012 - 05:06 .

[EpisodeSkywalker]

I liked Miranda's role in ME3. I wish I could have seen her more, but I was happy with what we did get. I think her being a bigger part in ME3 than most of the other ME2 characters os making me feel better  though

I just finished Sanctuary. Is her death scene on YouTube yet? I'd like to see it, I don't think I could ever have her be killed on a playthrough to see it. Or could someone at least describe it to me?

And I will get one more scene/conversation right?

Modifié par EpisodeSkywalker, 08 mars 2012 - 05:22 .

[kevinywong]

flemm wrote...

ThomGau wrote...

So this is confirmed ? I thought (and hoped) this was just rumor we had based on the leak.
How does she die if you do break up with her ?

I haven't personally confirmed it, but it seems that she won't contact you again after the first dialogue if you break up, which would guarantee her death for the reasons Ieldra states.

In light of that, the half-hearted implementation of the romance becomes laughable, really.

ThomGau wrote...
However I don't know if this is OOC or not.

I'm not sure that her deciding not to contact Shepard again is out of character, but I'm pretty sure that designing that scenario to be an automatic death and pushing it as the canon/preferred scenario is another thing entirely, and separate from the question of whether it is "in character" or not 

Well, I haven't gotten to Horizon yet. I'm just finishing up the Rannoch section, BUT I will say that though I broke up with her (it killed me to do so, but my shep was gay and only straight for Miranda), I have been able to warn her about Kai Leng and provide her with Alliance resources.  Miranda is loyal from Me2 in my playthrough.

My reputation is fairly high and will be higher by the time I get to Horizon, so...*fingers crossed*

Modifié par kevinywong, 08 mars 2012 - 05:47 .

[Ieldra]

kevinywong wrote...
Well, I haven't gotten to Horizon yet. I'm just finishing up the Rannoch section, BUT I will say that though I broke up with her (it killed me to do so, but my shep was gay and only straight for Miranda), I have been able to warn her about Kai Leng and provide her with Alliance resources.  Miranda is loyal from Me2 in my playthrough.

My reputation is fairly high and will be higher by the time I get to Horizon, so...*fingers crossed*

OK...that's interesting. Keep us posted.

[Ieldra]

EpisodeSkywalker wrote...

I liked Miranda's role in ME3. I wish I could have seen her more, but I was happy with what we did get. I think her being a bigger part in ME3 than most of the other ME2 characters os making me feel better  though

I just finished Sanctuary. Is her death scene on YouTube yet? I'd like to see it, I don't think I could ever have her be killed on a playthrough to see it. Or could someone at least describe it to me?

And I will get one more scene/conversation right?

You'll find links to her scenes in the Miranda Story and Character discussion Group (link in my sig). There's one more vidcomm conversation right before the final battle. It is nice but very short. 

[flemm]

kevinywong wrote...

Well, I haven't gotten to Horizon yet. I'm just finishing up the Rannoch section, BUT I will say that though I broke up with her (it killed me to do so, but my shep was gay and only straight for Miranda), I have been able to warn her about Kai Leng and provide her with Alliance resources.  Miranda is loyal from Me2 in my playthrough.

My reputation is fairly high and will be higher by the time I get to Horizon, so...*fingers crossed*

That would be good, keep us posted!

I'm doing a non-import playthrough myself and will be interested to see what outcome I can get there.