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[flemm]

AxisEvolve wrote...

Apparently you need to romance her?

Seemingly not, since people have reported her surviving without the romance. But you may not be able to break-up with her and have her survive (not confirmed, but it's possible).

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

That would be stupid if u have to stay romamced in order for to survive.
For people who had her live what did you do?

[Roxpanda1690]

flemm wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...

Apparently you need to romance her?

Seemingly not, since people have reported her surviving without the romance. But you may not be able to break-up with her and have her survive (not confirmed, but it's possible).

That's what I've heard too just haven't confirmed it and that's what confuses me I'll try a run through with a none romanced Miranda to find out

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

I guess you must romance her because I broke up with Miranda, I let her use Alliance resources, warned her about Kai Leng. I don't understand

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

When are you able to warn Miri about Kai Leng? After Confronting Kai Leng on the Citadel? And when does she ask you to see her in the Apartment? And do I have to go Back to the Normandy after Speaking to her in the Spectre Office in order to get her next Email Explaining how she wants to see Me In Person in the Apartment?

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

Just priority missions and you will get the email. I just don't know how to save her

[jbajcar]

I'm really curious at all the variables in saving her now. I had her live in my play through without even giving it a thought.

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

@jbajcar
Did u keep her romanced to have her live?
What interaction did you have with her?

[Rathias0114]

My idea on the variables;
-Alliance Resources
-Warned about Kai Leng
-Romance and/or Loyal from ME2
-Curious as to if cheating on a ME1 LI with her also becomes a variable?

.. I'm also curious as if response time to mission also dictates anything, highly unlikely, but who knows.

As for major characters dying, I was completely okay with it. It's a grim war and people die. In regards to how many loopholes you had to go through for Mordin... you sacrificed a lot for him instead of finishing what he started. I think people need to understand that not everyone is going to get out alive and sacrifices will be made.

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

But you warn Miranda through auto-diologue
I gave her the AR
But I ended the romance and Im wondering if that what gets her killed?

[HectorB]

When do you warn her about Kai Leng. The last time I saw her was in the apartment... I hose all the paragon options in all her conversations besides staying with her.

[Rathias0114]

You warn her when she comms you through vidcomm in the Spectre Area on the Citadel.

The warning IS autodialogue - but you can't really know about warning her until you encounter Kai Leng. So therefore, encounter Kai Leng = Auto warning Miranda.

[flemm]

Rathias0114 wrote...
As for major characters dying, I was completely okay with it. It's a grim war and people die. In regards to how many loopholes you had to go through for Mordin... you sacrificed a lot for him instead of finishing what he started. I think people need to understand that not everyone is going to get out alive and sacrifices will be made.

That's a different question entirely. Most characters have a scenario where they can die, often in addition to a possible death in the Suicide Mission. However, those deaths are designed to have consequences.

When characters die in the Suicide Mission, you lose access to options or resources in ME3. When characters die in ME3, they accomplish something that cannot be accomplished otherwise OR you lose access to important resources of some kind. Sometimes both.

This system is designed so that, yes, many characters can and will die in a variety of ways, but those deaths are not meaningless. The characters can die, but are not disposable (that is largely why it is implemented that way).

Miranda would appear to be an exception in that her death has no consequences of either kind, i.e. her death accomplishes nothing that doesn't happen anyway (unlike Mordin or Legion), and you don't lose access to any resources (like Jack, Samara, and many others).

Modifié par flemm, 09 mars 2012 - 02:44 .

[HectorB]

Rathias0114 wrote...

You warn her when she comms you through vidcomm in the Spectre Area on the Citadel.

The warning IS autodialogue - but you can't really know about warning her until you encounter Kai Leng. So therefore, encounter Kai Leng = Auto warning Miranda.

So that means talk to Miranda after the Citadel attack.

[Rathias0114]

flemm wrote...
That's a different question entirely. Most characters have a scenario where they can die, often in addition to a possible death in the Suicide Mission. However, those deaths are designed to have consequences.

When characters die in the Suicide Mission, you lose access to options or resources in ME3. When characters die in ME3, they accomplish something that cannot be accomplished otherwise OR you lose access to important resources of some kind. Sometimes both.

This system is designed so that, yes, many characters can and will die in a variety of ways, but those deaths are not meaningless. The characters can die, but are not disposable (that is largely why it is implemented that way).

Miranda would appear to be an exception in that her death has no consequences of either kind, i.e. her death accomplishes nothing that doesn't happen anyway (unlike Mordin or Legion), and you don't lose access to any resources (like Jack, Samara, and many others).

Your right - her death in ME2 doesn't cause any negative side effects in ME3. Am I upset about that? No. Because what unsolved missions did she have from ME2, besides her father? Which, on the galactic scale, wasn't really a big of a deal?

She was pro-Cerberus til the suicide mission. So any ideas of her taking out Cerberus weren't even brought up in ME2.

Her sister was saved from her father, and was also her genetic copy, so very capable in her own rights to take out their father.

She had no unfulfilled goals, whereas Tali had reclaiming her homeworld, Legion had saving the geth, Mordin had finishing the cure. This is also one of the reasons why I wasn't really upset about Thane being killed, because he didn't have any unfulfilled missions. 

Maybe that's just me. 

[jbajcar]

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

@jbajcar
Did u keep her romanced to have her live?
What interaction did you have with her?

Yea I continued the romance which may be the reason she stays alive. Are there people that continue the romance and she still dies? I mentioned Leng to her and I gave her access to alliance resources as well. 

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

So if I break up with her she automatically dies?

Modifié par Totally Not Swaggacide, 09 mars 2012 - 04:01 .

[flemm]

Rathias0114 wrote...
Your right - her death in ME2 doesn't cause any negative side effects in ME3. Am I upset about that? No. Because what unsolved missions did she have from ME2, besides her father? Which, on the galactic scale, wasn't really a big of a deal?

She was pro-Cerberus til the suicide mission. So any ideas of her taking out Cerberus weren't even brought up in ME2.

Well, the Cerberus story is the big one, of course because it's massively important in ME3. Should she be involved? Yes, because she was devoted to the organisation in the past, was a prominent figure in it (2IC as of ME3), and so is partly responsible for what is happening in ME3.

This is hardly a stretch. To take an example, both Kelly and Jacob provide war assets that are Cerberus based (basically defectors or renegade scientists). Reason being: that way, when Kelly and Jacob survive, that matters.

[EpisodeSkywalker]

Why did I get Liara's picture at the end when Shepard thinks of important people to him? Does that always happen?

[jbajcar]

EpisodeSkywalker wrote...

Why did I get Liara's picture at the end when Shepard thinks of important people to him? Does that always happen?

Because Bioware just can't get enough of shoving that damn character in your face...

But seriously, it's stupid. My Shepard would think of Miranda and so many more characters before Liara when he dies so Bioware is just trolling. I wish it was AT LEAST Ashley because even though they weren't romantically involved, I would say they have a close friendship. So, it would of made more sense.

Modifié par jbajcar, 09 mars 2012 - 05:06 .

[Casterdael]

What I'm wondering about: what happens if you rekindle your love with Ashley after the hospital scene, even when you told Miranda that you are still in a relationship with her?

[themonkeypolice]

Ran into Miranda for the first time, was happy about it. But it's really hard for me to keep playing when I wanted to side with TIM instead of being forced to go against him.

[Vertigo_1]

EpisodeSkywalker wrote...

Why did I get Liara's picture at the end when Shepard thinks of important people to him? Does that always happen?

Due to technical issues they never got a chance to fix this part (it was suppose to show your LI but it defaults to Liara if you romanced any of the ME2 romances; including Tali and Garrus...yep)

Not sure if they will fix it though, most folks are more angry about the endings right now...

Then again we can fix it ourselves (to an extent)...just need a good 3 second clip of her and replace the Liara vid with the Miranda one

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 09 mars 2012 - 05:35 .

[Asakawa]

Oh, the endings, the endings...

feels like stopping my game before the final battle and not playing it ever again.

then hopelessly think that magically there will be another story for Miranda and Shepard. haha... o i wish

Modifié par Asakawa, 09 mars 2012 - 05:45 .

[enayasoul]

Casterdael wrote...

What I'm wondering about: what happens if you rekindle your love with Ashley after the hospital scene, even when you told Miranda that you are still in a relationship with her?

If your male shep tells Ashley he wants to try to repair their love for each other. Ashley confronts Shepard about Miranda in the first conversation.  I was like wow... how did Ashley know?

Speculation:  Miranda says she has to talk to a few people... Would Miranda risk seeing Ashley and telling her to back off, he's mine.   Maybe if Ashley wasn't awake?   

Just a thought that ran through my mind.  Miranda isn't about to share him.  So my male shep told Ashley he didn't know.  He didn't want to start any relationship with Ashley but friends would be good.  It will be interesting to see the udina coup... I am about to go there.  God, I hope my rep is good enough but Shepards been nicer to Ashley as opposed to the beginning.  Ashley getting hurt scared him.  

Anyways, my maleshep is staying with Miranda.