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[mereck7980]

I like to think she was in the system too. It helps my headcannon version of the ending.

[jtav]

I just prefer to think of her as fighting. And really "class-F fighter" makes me all squeeful.

[enayasoul]

Traestus wrote...

ThomGau wrote...


I must say that I suprised myself to be so involved during this particular mission, my heart was racing, a bit nervous and I was destroying anything that could get in my way, I needed to find Miranda as fast as possible.

Hah I found myself doing the same thing. I was actually a bit surprised this didn't happen, but it would have been a amazing for one of your squadmates to even ask something like "Are you worried Shepard?", while you infiltrated sanctuary. It would have been a really nice touch to the scene if you had romanced her.

Yep.  I felt the same way.  "Hold on Miranda. I'm coming!"   

I was hoping he'd take her in her arms, hug her deeply with a passionate kiss making sure she was all right (but would that be too over the top? I think it would show how much he loved her)  but what we have was good just want more.

I liked that Miranda asked Shepard if he was worried.  It just makes the "I promise" from Shepard all the more powerful later on.  (I haven't witnessed that last scene and not sure I want to finish the game...at this point from all the bad reviews but I'd destroy the geth if it meant the Reapers would be dead and the cycle finally broken.  I think the damn galaxy should allow Shepard to be selfish in getting what he wants.  And that includes being a live and loving Miranda.)

Wasn't there some kissing involved and someone interrupted them? From the leak or something? Darn. Would have been cute to see.  In this specific confrontation, I think Miranda needed to be the one to kill her father.  To be set free from him.   Henry Lawson was an evil man. I'm glad Miranda finally has some closure from her past.   

[ThomGau]

jtav wrote...

I just prefer to think of her as fighting. And really "class-F fighter" makes me all squeeful.

Same for me. This adds some more offscreen badassery to Miranda.
In any case, she must be part of the final fight against the Reapers, this is the fate of humanity (and the whole Galaxy) at stake and doesn't she fight for it and its advancement ?
I can't see her doing nothing but taking care of Oriana now that she is safe.

Modifié par ThomGau, 11 mars 2012 - 05:17 .

[jbajcar]

ThomGau wrote...

jtav wrote...

I just prefer to think of her as fighting. And really "class-F fighter" makes me all squeeful.

Same for me. This adds some more offscreen badassery to Miranda.
In any case, she must be part of the final fight against the Reapers, this is the fate of humanity (and the whole Galaxy) at stake and doesn't she fight for it and its advancement ?
I can't see her doing nothing but taking care of Oriana now that she is safe.

Oh for sure. By fighting the Reapers, she's inherently taking care and protecting Oriana anyway so it totally make sense that she'd join the final battle.

Modifié par jbajcar, 11 mars 2012 - 06:01 .

[Ieldra]

Just finished the game. Phew...

The last talk with Miranda make me cry. I mean really. That has *never* happened in any game before. I couldn't play on for a minute. And of course I chose the Synthesis and I'll make Shepard come back for Miranda as he promised. I don't like the quasi-mysticism and the salvation theme in this ending specifically, but now that it exists, I might as well make the space magic for me. I'll also reinterpret the Synthesis - it makes no sense to cast synthetics and organics "into a new framework, a new DNA", because that would destroy the nature of synthetics as constructed (though possibly self-constructed) beings.

Anyway, while I can work with - or rather around - the endings with my headcanon, finishing the game hasn't changed my opinion of them, but I'll post about that elsewhere.

I wouldn't have thought it after having played only half of the game, but I'm rather satisfied with Miranda's presence. The omissions are still glaring, but since all character stories have taken a backseat in favor of the overall plot, a fact I appreciate, I'd say the good outweighs the bad, and the epic rant I promised won't be coming.

One thing though is simply unexcusable: that they show Liara in the flashback. That's insulting. I consider this a bug that must be fixed. I'm getting sick of Liara's overpresence in the story. Of course *her* goodbye scene has something special others don't get, even if not romanced. 

BTW:
I think the message about Liara on the SB terminal was added as a result of our reaction to Miranda in the leaked script. Evidence: in the goodbye talk, Shepard asks if she's feeling better, which is somewhat contradictory given that message. If so, it was a commendable attempt at damage control which works rather well. Miranda with her own ship and team, yes!

Modifié par Ieldra2, 11 mars 2012 - 06:50 .

[Aedera]

Yeah having Liara take the spot of Miranda during the "death montage" portion of the ending was crap.

Overall, I found the handling of the relationships built in ME2 to be pretty bad here with the exception of Thane. I thought that was really well done though, if he were my LI, I would have probably been ticked off...but you knew he was dying so you brought that on yourself

But to not have a proper "romance" scene (hooking up in some random apartment doesn't count) and for her to not be on the Normandy with you as you go into the final battle just seems weak. Miranda was a "cover" character in ME2 and while she does have an important role in ME3, it didn't feel like enough. I guess I don't have closure especially after the vid call at the end and then the actual ending.

I loved ME2 and wanted to love ME3 but I just can't quite do it.

[Dr. Doctor]

The reason for the Reaper's existance made me think of this:

Catalyst: I impose order onto chaos by ensuring that organic life cannot build an AI that will cause the destruction of organic life.

Shepard: Wait, so you're an AI that destroys organic life so that it can't build an AI that destroys organic life? Isn't that a paradox?

Catalist: We never noticed that. (explodes)

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

I'm fine with the ending, at first I didn't understand it but the more I thought about it and discussed it I felt satisfaction. I romanced Ashley so I got her in the flashback instead of Liara but I can understand why that would upset everyone, you would think Shepard would remember the live of his life before the end.

[AirWolf856]

Here's my version of how the ending should have been with Miranda.  Shepard saves her from being killed by her father.  Shepard destroys the Reapers and the Mass Relays are left in-tact.  The last scene shows a shuttle landing on a rich green planet (kinda like the one the Normandy crashes on).  In the next scene, you see Shepard and Miranda in beach chairs, sitting side-by-side holding hands as they watch the sunrise.   The camera pans to the left and further down the beach you see EDI wearing a bikini sitting a beach chair with Joker in his Hawaiian shorts watching the same sunrise. The camera zooms up on Joker as he smiles and then the scene fades to black. 

Modifié par AirWolf856, 11 mars 2012 - 08:07 .

[enayasoul]

Anyone have the video of Miranda's "wishing I was there?" I can't find any on you tube. I just watched the goodbye one on you tube. With Miranda's smirk, promising she'll be careful. Is that it?

[Anzeroth]

I know this is a bit off topic, but wouldnt be great if a Miranda DLC was released ?
Of course it would contain Miranda as a permanent squad member and her own mission.
Something like the Zaaed DLC from ME2...

P.S If you are in favor of this idea please vote in my poll..

Modifié par Anzeroth, 11 mars 2012 - 09:33 .

[Raizo]

Yeah, I was finally reunited with Miranda in my ME3 playthrough today. Sure the scene only lasted a few minutes and she only had a few lines but they were good ones. I can't wait until I see her again.

It's so weird, I'm playing ME3 and so far it is a very good game and I am mostly enjoying myself but all I can think about is when can I see Miranda again. So what exactly does that say about ME3 itself?

[sorentoft]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

The reason for the Reaper's existance made me think of this:

Catalyst: I impose order onto chaos by ensuring that organic life cannot build an AI that will cause the destruction of organic life.

Shepard: Wait, so you're an AI that destroys organic life so that it can't build an AI that destroys organic life? Isn't that a paradox?

Catalist: We never noticed that. (explodes)

Harbinger: I told you it was a stupid plan. Now. Submit Shepard! I want a shrubbery!

[Adanu]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

The reason for the Reaper's existance made me think of this:

Catalyst: I impose order onto chaos by ensuring that organic life cannot build an AI that will cause the destruction of organic life.

Shepard: Wait, so you're an AI that destroys organic life so that it can't build an AI that destroys organic life? Isn't that a paradox?

Catalist: We never noticed that. (explodes)

They don't destroy organic life, they harvest it and preserve it before it destroys itself.

Theres a difference.

[Ieldra]

@Raizo:
Believe me, there is no tension like running through Sanctuary and constantly asking yourself "Did I do things right? Will she survive?" And this uncertainty is brought home to you in no uncertain terms. No spoiler, let's just say it's dramatic tension of the highest order for any Miranda fan.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 11 mars 2012 - 10:28 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

****Spoilers****

I just finished Sanctuary. Why wasn't there a Make Out Scene? Please don't tell me it was because of "No Promises" in ME2. I really don't want to replay ALL of ME2 all over again.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 11 mars 2012 - 10:56 .

[Raizo]

Ieldra2 wrote...

@Raizo:
Believe me, there is no tension like running through Sanctuary and constantly asking yourself "Did I do things right? Will she survive?" And this uncertainty is brought home to you in no uncertain terms. No spoiler, let's just say it's dramatic tension of the highest order for any Miranda fan.

It's good thing that visit this thread alot. I've been keeping my eye on my EMS to get the 'best' ( yeah right ) ending but your post also reminds me that I need to keep an eye on certain other things like Reputation. last time I checked there were soo many variables involed in keeping Miri alive and I need to stay informed on them all. 

God the tension is already killing me.

[ThomGau]

Just finished ME3. For those who haven't finished the game yet and don't want to be spoiled, do not read.



I was hesitating between the Synthesis and the Destroy endings, I finally chose the destroy ending with Shepard being alive, I want to be sure he can have a future with Miranda. He finished this, He'll find her, he promised.
Also, with Shepard now being a living legend, I think organics can find order through his Icon. He now embodies the future of the Galaxy, he'll guide them as well as he reunited them for this war. Though, of course, he couldn't do it without Miranda at his side.

In my opinion, this game has two big flaws which prevents it from being perfect : the ME2 cast sidelining and the puzzling and unfulfiling endings.
I don't really like the Guardian being a kid or having an physical entity at all. I would have prefered him to be just a voice.
I didn't really mind the Normandy's fate, though this is more enigmatic than anything else, but there are worst place to crash on and they can be rescued somehow imo.
However I absolutely hated the epilogue, I say kill it with fire, it so cliché that it's irritating. If I wanted an epilogue, I would want to see what's happening to Shepard and Miranda, to all the characters I've come to love throughout this saga and finally to the rest of the Galaxy but not a grandpa telling a story to his grandchild.
Also, seeing Liara in the flashback is kinda lame, not that I hate her particularly but I would want to see my LI instead of her.

I must say this game is great if you can get past those two aspects.
The final missions are brilliant, the fight with Kai Leng in TIM's office, the streets of London, TIM's battle on the Citadel.
I've done something that I haven't done in a while with a video game, I cried when I spoke to all the people I fought with throughtout the trilogy, congratulations for that Bioware. It was really moving to talk to all of them before the final battle, especially Miranda.

Modifié par ThomGau, 11 mars 2012 - 10:58 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

And about my Comment Above....I'm scared that I won't be able to see Miri before the Final Battle. Most likely because I didn't Promise.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 11 mars 2012 - 11:00 .

[jtav]

Logan Cloud wrote...

So, here's what I heard, if you romanced Lawson, she CAN'T DIE.

Food for thought.

She dies if you fail the rep check and don't take the interrupt.

[Dr. Doctor]

The thing with the Guardian being that kid from Earth might have been the Reapers invoking the A Form You Are Comfortable With trope in order to interact with Shepard.

Earth Kid was one of my least favorite parts of the game. Shepard's seen entire colonies disappear, witnessed the destruction of the Protheans in the beacon vision, in addition to whatever psych profile you pick and one kid on Earth is the first thing we see affect him?

[ThomGau]

I haven't thought of this that way but I think you are right Doc.
Also a child embodies innocence, purity, peace which may fit with the Guardian's role within the Galaxy.
Though I would have prefered just to hear a voice, wise yet powerful for the Guardian.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

"No Deal!"

I LOVED seeing Miri THROWING her father to his death:wub:!

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 11 mars 2012 - 11:23 .