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[jtav]

Or have her father's research be directly based on Lazarus, specifically the control chip. Miranda understandably has a meltdown. And then, she isn't murdered: she sacrifices her life to reverse the process and we get a 50 Sanctuary Refugees War Asset.

[flemm]

Yeah, if you emphasized her indirect responsability for what's happening on Sanctuary, due to her father using her research via TIM, that could work. Obviously, it's not what I would want to see, but at least it would work as a story.

Modifié par flemm, 15 mars 2012 - 05:57 .

[jtav]

I don't think they were going for Redemption Equals Death as much as Stuffed Into the Fridge. Miranda is the LI killed off so the hero wants the villain good and dead.

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

I don't think they were going for Redemption Equals Death as much as Stuffed Into the Fridge. Miranda is the LI killed off so the hero wants the villain good and dead.

Well, a little of both, maybe.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
I don't think they were going for Redemption Equals Death as much as Stuffed Into the Fridge. Miranda is the LI killed off so the hero wants the villain good and dead.

That's even worse. But it doesn't work. In a game like this, all it does is make me hate the writers.

BTW:
Elyvern just finished the game. Her reaction to the ending is.....colorful.

[flemm]

Ieldra2 wrote...

BTW:
Elyvern just finished the game. Her reaction to the ending is.....colorful.

Care to share?

[Ieldra]

flemm wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

BTW:
Elyvern just finished the game. Her reaction to the ending is.....colorful.

Care to share?

Most of it can't be quoted here, but here's an apt comparison she made:

I feel like I'm in one of kafka's novels, where I wake up one day and everyone turned into giant cockroaches.oh yes, "Metamorphosis"....so now Bioware have become fans of the absurdist movement....giant cockroaches...how fitting....

The number of WTFs is also impressive.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 15 mars 2012 - 06:23 .

[jtav]

Here's what I'd do, just for reference:

Sanctuary plays out as normal, though Miranda gets a noticeable wound from Leng. During TIM's base, Miranda and her strike team show up and secure the Reaper remains (you lose them otherwise). If Shepard doesn't take the Renegade interrupt with Leng, Miranda shows up and wounds him the same way. "Now we're even."

[flemm]

LoL. ME ending = waking up surrounded by giant cockroaches.

How appropriate!

jtav wrote...
Sanctuary plays out as normal, though Miranda gets a noticeable wound from Leng. During TIM's base, Miranda and her strike team show up and secure the Reaper remains (you lose them otherwise). If Shepard doesn't take the Renegade interrupt with Leng, Miranda shows up and wounds him the same way. "Now we're even."

Good stuff!

I think there are a few different ways to really do it, but they all involve Miranda showing up at the base, or accompanying you there. I can't imagine this has escaped them entirely, as I'm sure even feedback from fans internally included some version of, "Ummm, I like what's there, but she can't some with me to the base, wtf?"

It's just too blatantly obvious for that not to be the case.

Modifié par flemm, 15 mars 2012 - 06:34 .

[atheelogos]

Honestly I don't see why Miranda wasn't a squadmate. Just looking at her thread count compared to others she's the most popular by far. I don't know why the devs didn't capitalize on her popularity.

[jtav]

I get the impression that Sanctuary's approximately when they ran up against crunch. It's a boring, visually uninteresting level with no branching. So Miranda's content felt it. She should have been to Act 3 what Mordin was to Act 1and Legion was to Act 2.

Modifié par jtav, 15 mars 2012 - 06:39 .

[flemm]

atheelogos wrote...

Honestly I don't see why Miranda wasn't a squadmate. Just looking at her thread count compared to others she's the most popular by far. I don't know why the devs didn't capitalize on her popularity.

Well, thread count doesn't equate to popularity, except in the sense that, sure, a character is not likely to have a very active thread without being at least reasonably popular.

Yes, she is popular, as well as being somewhat controversial and polarizing, which is all the better, as far as I'm concerned.

The main reason she isn't on the squad is probably the same reason the VS and Liara weren't in ME2: different game, different tone, so you don't bring back the lead character. It's our bad luck that Miranda was the *main* squad member in the second game of a trilogy.

Where I start to have issues is not there, because that all makes sense, it's how poorly implemented her non-squad role is when it could have been awesome. Not sure if this is due to time/budget contraints or just the decision to use her as a sacrificial lamb, basically. Obviously, you are not going to bother to do that with a character nobody cares about.

Modifié par flemm, 15 mars 2012 - 06:48 .

[jtav]

On the other hand, we don't have to deal with Gilligan's Planet. So I'm happy she wasn't squad.

[leoboro]

man we coudln't even meet up with her =/ always this "bla bla bla they cant see me in the citadel bla bla"...let's just go to a planet/hotel for a few months then!

[Cosmochyck]

Hello Miranda fans!
For anyone/everyone that felt she deserved more than she got in ME3, we've started a thread for ALL the ME2 LIs and their woefully inadequate inclusion and screen time. 

it's here

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

 Mass Effect Ending:
https://p.twimg.com/...A898r.jpg:large

[jtav]

Now we know that the writers really did lose their minds. They deliberately crapped all over their universe and characters, including Miranda. I say we reclaim the universe and her. Fic. Art. Comics. She belongs to us now.

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

Now we know that the writers really did lose their minds. They deliberately crapped all over their universe and characters, including Miranda. I say we reclaim the universe and her. Fic. Art. Comics. She belongs to us now.

Wait, what, has there been some new revelation?

[Vertigo_1]

flemm wrote...

jtav wrote...

Now we know that the writers really did lose their minds. They deliberately crapped all over their universe and characters, including Miranda. I say we reclaim the universe and her. Fic. Art. Comics. She belongs to us now.

Wait, what, has there been some new revelation?

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9999272/1
This all you need to know...it's just that bad.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 15 mars 2012 - 08:43 .

[jtav]

The endings. The confusion, the lack of closure? Entirely deliberate. Not a matter of resources.

[flemm]

*sigh*

Well, congratulations to whoever came up with that idea. Sheesh.

[jtav]

Huh. Miranda had a survival rate in ME2 of just under 90% Jacob is actually the least killed squaddie at 93%

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

Huh. Miranda had a survival rate in ME2 of just under 90% Jacob is actually the least killed squaddie at 93%

Where has this info turned up?

[Revan654]

**Minor Spoilers**

A Quick Question:

When We meet Miranda on the Citadel for the third time are we suppose to get a E-Mail before hand? I know Shepard always says I got your Message. I never got any E-Mail from her, Maybe I talked to her to soon to get the E-Mail?

I saw she was on the citadel so I went to talk with her to give her Alliance Access.

[jtav]