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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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#42301
MASSEFFECTfanforlife101

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So we're not getting ANYTHING? No DLC ending? NOTHING?

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Well, that's... sort of interesting. But Jacob's high survival rate is the only thing really surprising at all, everything else lines up more or less as I would have expected.

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I'd have thought Miranda's percentage would be higher. I guess a lot of people sided with Jack.

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

So we're not getting ANYTHING? No DLC ending? NOTHING?


patience my friend, and have faith ...just don't expect it to happen over the night

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jtav wrote...

I'd have thought Miranda's percentage would be higher. I guess a lot of people sided with Jack.


Well, the "loyalty trap" + the fact that she is used on the squad all the time probably lowers her survival percentage a bit from where it would otherwise be. I could see some players not realizing the impact of that and just continuing to use her on the squad.

It's not odd that hers or Garrus' is high, though, but moreso that Jacob survives more than either.

That said, his loyalty mission becomes available early, so I guess it's not that odd, since he's obviously a bad choice for the vents. As long as you don't assign him to that, he will most likely survive.

Modifié par flemm, 15 mars 2012 - 09:18 .


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Luis its been a week chill out

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@jtav
What about Kasumi and Zaeed?

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Revan654 wrote...
**Minor Spoilers**

A Quick Question:

When We meet Miranda on the Citadel for the third time are we suppose to get a E-Mail before hand? I know Shepard always says I got your Message. I never got any E-Mail from her, Maybe I talked to her to soon to get the E-Mail?

I saw she was on the citadel so I went to talk with her to give her Alliance Access.

You do get the email, but she's already there to meet with you before you get it. It's an artifact of the timing system, where mails are triggered by "do one mission after event X". I'd wait to meet to with her until you get the mail, but I don't think it's a problem if you don't.

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

So we're not getting ANYTHING? No DLC ending? NOTHING?


Well there has been lockdown on the main forum since this post about an APP that pretty much shoots everything down. 

http://social.biowar...ndex/9999272/50
 
But since it's not 'associated' with Bioware I dunno. 

EDIT: ok forum is unlocked again, but the hate still continues. 
 
Personally I just want Shep and Miri to survive the ending. That's all I ask for.

Modifié par pyro_technician, 15 mars 2012 - 09:23 .


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jtav wrote...
Now we know that the writers really did lose their minds. They deliberately crapped all over their universe and characters, including Miranda. I say we reclaim the universe and her. Fic. Art. Comics. She belongs to us now.

I hear you. I can only shake my head. That they destroyed their universe deliberately is bad enough, but what I really don't understand is that they had all the additional content for the Citadel sequence.....and cut it because "players don't need that information." WTF? Information is closure, and the endings lack exactly that.
Anyway, if they destroy their universe, we can rebuild it. It's just too bad that the unifying vision Bioware provided is gone.

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How did u feel about game over: now buy DLC at the end of ME3

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Ieldra2 wrote...

Revan654 wrote...
**Minor Spoilers**

A Quick Question:

When We meet Miranda on the Citadel for the third time are we suppose to get a E-Mail before hand? I know Shepard always says I got your Message. I never got any E-Mail from her, Maybe I talked to her to soon to get the E-Mail?

I saw she was on the citadel so I went to talk with her to give her Alliance Access.

You do get the email, but she's already there to meet with you before you get it. It's an artifact of the timing system, where mails are triggered by "do one mission after event X". I'd wait to meet to with her until you get the mail, but I don't think it's a problem if you don't.


It's not a Problem. I was just wondering if you get one, I never seen the E-Mail yet.

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Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
@Ieldra2
How did u feel about game over: now buy DLC at the end of ME3

After this ending? What do you think? Someone gives me the middle finger and right after that, asks me to buy glasses in order to see the middle finger better. Unless it adds something to the endings, I don't think I'll be interested in DLC. I might change my mind for really good story DLC, but only if they don't skimp on the voice acting.

And...everyone's favorite Miranda moment.

Image IPB

Hmph. We need high-res mods for ME3.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 15 mars 2012 - 10:08 .


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Still looks great, though.

#42315
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I like how playful she is. It's obvious she cares deeply, but it takes something dramatic for her to show it traditionally. No "I love you" until she dies but it's there in the way she calls Shep a bastard and the hugging and touching. They did a great job pf convincing me that Shep/Miranda is a solid couple with a future.

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 Bioware choosing the end of the ME3 trilogy:
https://p.twimg.com/...AUnmV.jpg:large

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I'm playing the game and wondering if they realize how slashy the FShep/Miranda relationship appears. I just had the second covo and all the promise dialogue isn't romance exclusive.

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After going through The Final Hours it really seems like they hit a wall in respect to what they could do with their time and resources. There were ideas such as going with the Dark Energy plotline started on Haestrom, having TIM be the final boss, Shepard being indoctrinated, etc. But they didn't want to push the release date back so they just went with what we have now.

As for the endings I'm not looking for an epilogue of what happens to everyone like we get in DAO or Fallout, I just want clarification on what the heck happened. Why was the Normandy flying through a relay with squadmates I was fighting along side on the way to the Conduit on it? What's so important about Gilligan's World, why is it even there?  I don't care about a happy Disney ending I just want something that isn't reminiscent of the ending of Matrix Revolutions.


@ Jtav

I really liked the love scene. The two of them have been through hell the past few months, and Miranda saying that using the control chip on Shepard would make her no better than her father struck me as an allusion to Sanctuary. Shepard's "I'm running out of moves" line and Miranda's response of "I'm not" also brings back a lot of the playfulness that we got with the Engine Room scene without devolving into the Engine Room scene.

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jtav wrote...

I'm playing the game and wondering if they realize how slashy the FShep/Miranda relationship appears. I just had the second covo and all the promise dialogue isn't romance exclusive.


You mean Female Shepard and Miranda relationship?

If thats true I wasn't aware that was possible...

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It's not, but a lot of things I'd assumed as romance exclusive aren't, which gives a subtly erotic twinge to the friendship.

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Dr. Doctor wrote...

I really liked the love scene.


I like it, too, for the basic content of the dialogue.

I also think that Miranda connecting her father and the control chip is the one piece of actual character development for Miranda in ME3. It's a case where the writer did a good job of putting a couple of details together, and having Miranda do that herself, prior to going after her father is a good idea as part of a larger story.

Where I start having problems is it doesn't go anywhere.

To the extent that the story is about Miranda redeeming herself, she's not redeeming herself for the control chip, because that's something she didn't do. If it's just about Miranda as Leng-fodder, then that's not a story at all.

To the extent that the story was going to have any meaning it would need to come from what Miranda does after finally confronting her father and putting those personal demons behind her and/or from the content of the confrontation with her father (which would be about her coming to terms with her origins, i.e. accepting them, or separating her father's intent from her own identity). However, none of that is explored.

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They recorded a lot of death lines, but the promises aren't exclusive of the romance?

Well, they did it worse with Jack dance...


And, I'm leaving a pic of my main Shep with Miranda. Looks like their first reunion on the Citadel is our favorite moment.

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Skullheart wrote...

And, I'm leaving a pic of my main Shep with Miranda. Looks like their first reunion on the Citadel is our favorite moment.


Easily. In that first dialogue, I feel like I'm talking to Miranda. The rest is basically everything I wouldn't want, but either somewhat or slightly camouflaged, according to the situation.

Well, to be fair, the last dialogue doesn't really have that problem, as it is after the fact.

Modifié par flemm, 15 mars 2012 - 11:51 .


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The upswing of all this -

*SPOILER*

I picked the Destroy ending and my Shep survived. Miranda's on Earth as is my crew from ME2 and Wrex. I might not have bro-tier Garrus, but I have Miranda, Wrex, Grunt and the rest to hang out with. If they don't change the endings, at least I got a semi good one. Makes up for the meh romance of Miranda this game. Victory!


*END SPOILERS*

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I Destroyed the Reapers, and since I had Enough EMS, ALL Organic Life Survived, and I gasped for Air under Stone Rubble, which Meant I MYSELF Survived AS WELL.

I have a Promise to keep: A Promise to find Miranda after the Battle was Over. BioWare had BETTER make a DLC so that I keep my Promise. They just can't leave us in the dark with Endings like these:crying:.

I don't want to fall dwn to Fanfics or Fan Art. I want the Real Thing. I don't want to "Imagine" it. I WANT TO SEE IT:crying:!

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 16 mars 2012 - 12:27 .