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[Skullheart]

jtav wrote...

We'll never get an answer, so what do yo think happened to Miranda after the endgame?

The writer wanted her dead. Maybe she died from a random bullet

With the endings having so many loose ends, I think is up to the player imagination.

[jtav]

Skullheart wrote...


With the endings having so many loose ends, I think is up to the player imagination.

That's what we're here for isn't it? Speculation?

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I DON'T WANT TO BE LEFT WITH SPECULATION AND IMAGINATON! I WANT to see if Miri Survived the Battle For Earth/End Game. I want to SEE it!

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

We'll never get an answer, so what do yo think happened to Miranda after the endgame?

Well, the endings are such a mess that it's hard to say. The "control" ending is the only one where there would be enough continuity for anyone's life to continue in a way that was more or less consistent with what they had done previously.

In Miranda's case, no real direction is provided in the game. So, in a control ending, we can go back to some scenarios we outlined previously, where Miranda founds a new organisation dedicated to exploiting Lazarus technology in a beneficial way, for example.

In a destroy ending, she would have to contribute to rebuilding civilisation, along with everybody else. She'd be qualified to contribute a lot of things. Everything would be needed, pretty much.

In a "synthesis" ending? I guess her scentific side would find plenty to explore and try to better understand. That one's kind of hard to speculate about, though.

Modifié par flemm, 16 mars 2012 - 05:49 .

[Lawbringer-SR2]

If there's anything I've learned about Miri over the passed two games, is that she is a survivor. I can gurrantee that if she survived the events on Sanctuary, as well as the ending you've chosen, that she's alive and kickin'.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Lawbringer-SR2 wrote...

If there's anything I've learned about Miri over the passed two games, is that she is a survivor. I can gurrantee that if she survived the events on Sanctuary, as well as the ending you've chosen, that she's alive and kickin'.

THIS!! HOPEFULLY Miri Survived the Battle For Earth/End Game!! I'm CERTAIN that she DID, but I Also want to SEE that she DID Indeed Survive the Battle For Earth/End Game!! I do NOT want to be left with Speculation/Imagination!! I want to SEE Miri Alive!!

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 16 mars 2012 - 06:36 .

[Lawbringer-SR2]

Oh, I completely agree with you. I was willing to sacrifice the Geth and EDI... and of course the mass relays, just so I could fulfill my promise to her. I would've loved to see that in the end.

[Dr. Doctor]

I'm messing around with an alternate take on the Control ending:

-TIM still ends up becoming Indoctrinated, but against all odds Cerberus' experiments in controlling the Reapers succeeds. The catch to configuring the Crucible to emit the control signal is that it will affect any synthetic life that utilizes Reaper tech, EDI and the Geth would also be brought to heel by whoever's running the control signal.

Still hashing out the rest of the details.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Lawbringer-SR2 wrote...

Oh, I completely agree with you. I was willing to sacrifice the Geth and EDI... and of course the mass relays, just so I could fulfill my promise to her. I would've loved to see that in the end.

Me Too! I have a Promise to Keep for My Miri.

Yeah it's sad that EDI didn't make it for Joker, and it's sad the Geth didn't make it either, but like an Old Vulcan once said, "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one...." So when it comes to the "Needs of the Many," EVERYONE depended on me to Destroy the Reapers once and for all, who am I to argue with that?

Something Good DID come out of the Sacrifice of EDI and the Geth: All Organic Life Survived, and the Long-Term Galactic Cause had been Fulfilled. The Geth and EDI will be remembered as Heroes.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 16 mars 2012 - 06:50 .

[jtav]

I originally pegged Matt as the type to let the world burn to have Miranda in his life. But it turns out that there are prices he won't pay. I like to think that means he now deserves her.

[Skullheart]

I have mixing feelings about my main Shepard fulfiling his promise with Miranda. I mean:

- Destroy: I don't really care about EDI, but I care about the Geths. They are fighting alongside with the rest of organics, proving the catalist that the created will not always rebel against the creators, they can even wotk together. The destroy ending is the easy way to keep his promise, but will Shepard deserve being with Miranda knowing that he sacrified 2 species just to be with her (I almost always kill the quarians, they just proves that the catalist is right,) The only way to acept the destroy endings is killing the geths, and just 1 of my Sheps will do that.

- Control. He can't take this path. It will be following TIM's path, and we know how much he sacrified to do that. And controlling the reapers will be going against Miranda resolution about controlling things. And Shepard always dies in this ending.

- Synthesize. Almost the good ending, I can make him to keep his promise with a good head canon (borrowing the cybrids from Dan Simmons books and using the technology from the virtual aliens; that's how he will reunite with Miranda).The bad thing about this is that I don't think that Shepard has the right to decide for all the species (organic and synthetic) to change them forever. He will even change the young species.


I'm not very happy with the RGB endings. I wish there's some yellow.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Miri AND EVERYONE Else knew the risks that EVERYONE had to take to take back Earth and Destroy the Reapers, even if that meant Colossal Sacrifices. Everyone wanted the Nightmare to END, NO MATTER the cost.

Miri of ALL People would understand. Not destroying the Reapers would go against what EVERY stood for. I'm not going to be a Kiss-Ass to the Reapers anytime soon.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 16 mars 2012 - 07:55 .

[MisterJB]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...Me Too! I have a Promise to Keep for My Miri.

Yeah it's sad that EDI didn't make it for Joker, and it's sad the Geth didn't make it either, but like an Old Vulcan once said, "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one...." So when it comes to the "Needs of the Many," EVERYONE depended on me to Destroy the Reapers once and for all, who am I to argue with that?

Something Good DID come out of the Sacrifice of EDI and the Geth: All Organic Life Survived, and the Long-Term Galactic Cause had been Fulfilled. The Geth and EDI will be remembered as Heroes.

The need of the many? Do you really want to go down that road?

Very well, the Reapers are each a civilization. Combined, there are countless more civilizations amongst the Reaper fleet than the ones Shepard is trying to save. Civilizations that are not preserving the Cycle of their own free will.

By your logic, you should help the Reapers.

Another "good of the many" logic. Oriana is but one girl. If experimenting on her will allow Henry Lawson to turn the next generation of humans into perfect beings, Shepard should let him have her. The good of the many (human race) outweigh the good of the few (Oriana).

[Roxpanda1690]

Did anyone else see the rumor about the dlc ending "fix" or is that just something made up and it truly is a rumor

Modifié par Roxpanda1690, 16 mars 2012 - 07:59 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

MisterJB wrote...

The need of the many? Do you really want to go down that road?

Very well, the Reapers are each a civilization. Combined, there are countless more civilizations amongst the Reaper fleet than the ones Shepard is trying to save. Civilizations that are not preserving the Cycle of their own free will.

By your logic, you should help the Reapers.

Another "good of the many" logic. Oriana is but one girl. If experimenting on her will allow Henry Lawson to turn the next generation of humans into perfect beings, Shepard should let him have her. The good of the many (human race) outweigh the good of the few (Oriana).

Don't even try to turn my words against me. SAVE IT, because you are NOT making me change the way my ending was! Don't you dare! My OPINION. Get over it! Savy?

I'm not going to let everyone down by salvaging the Reapers, which made us go through hell. 


I'm not going through some bull**** hassle on who's a smarter player than the other. I have MY preferences, and you have YOURS!

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 16 mars 2012 - 08:04 .

[flemm]

Roxpanda1690 wrote...

Did anyone else see the rumor about the dlc ending "fix" or is that just something made up and it truly is a rumor

As far as I know, at the moment, the idea of a dlc improved/fixed ending is pure rumor or wishful thinking. I believe that Priestly suggested that the controversy would be addressed at some point in the near future, but nothing about a proposed change.

[MisterJB]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
Don't even try to turn my words against me. SAVE IT, because you are NOT making me change the way my ending was! Don't you dare! My OPINION. Get over it! Savy?

I'm not going to let everyone down by salvaging the Reapers, which made us go through hell. 

I couldn't care less about what you do in your game.
However, this is a discussion forum. I am pointing out the flaws in your logic.

[kaymarierose]

I know this was a few pages back, but I wanted to share my thoughts. It's about Miri's death scene.

Though I would never choose this for one of my games, I've seen the video for it, and I have to say, aside from the fact that she is dying, I thought the scene was very well done.

It didn't surprise me that they said "I love you" to each other, but it brought great happiness to know that it was Miranda who said "I love you" first. I always thought that she would be a little afraid to say it, but maybe thats it, in that moment she wasn't afraid anymore.

On another note, thought it was kind of weird that not a single time in their entire romance do you see an actual visual kiss between the two. It's always the back of one of their heads, or a moved camera, or in this case, a fade to black.

[Roxpanda1690]

flemm wrote...

Roxpanda1690 wrote...

Did anyone else see the rumor about the dlc ending "fix" or is that just something made up and it truly is a rumor

As far as I know, at the moment, the idea of a dlc improved/fixed ending is pure rumor or wishful thinking. I believe that Priestly suggested that the controversy would be addressed at some point in the near future, but nothing about a proposed change.

Yeah your probably right it's most likely wishful thinking

Anyway I'm just glad Miranda at least had more screen time then most the mass effect 2 cast 

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

MisterJB wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
Don't even try to turn my words against me. SAVE IT, because you are NOT making me change the way my ending was! Don't you dare! My OPINION. Get over it! Savy?

I'm not going to let everyone down by salvaging the Reapers, which made us go through hell. 

I couldn't care less about what you do in your game.
However, this is a discussion forum. I am pointing out the flaws in your logic.

There are NO flaws. I don't care about the other things. The other topic YOU mentioned have nothing to do with saving the Galaxy. I did save the Galaxy for the needs of the many. The many, serving for those who want the Reapers Destroyed and freedom to be restored.

You have got to stop being such a jerk.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 16 mars 2012 - 08:10 .

[MACharlie1]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
Don't even try to turn my words against me. SAVE IT, because you are NOT making me change the way my ending was! Don't you dare! My OPINION. Get over it! Savy?

I'm not going to let everyone down by salvaging the Reapers, which made us go through hell. 

I couldn't care less about what you do in your game.
However, this is a discussion forum. I am pointing out the flaws in your logic.

There are NO flaws. I could care less about the other things. The other topic YOU mentioned have nothing to do with saving the Galaxy. I did save the Galaxy for the needs of the many. The many, serving for those who want the Reapers Destroyed and freedom to be restored.

You have got to stop being such a jerk.

Couldn't. You couldn't care less. If you could care less, it's not really worth noting now is it? It does mean you care some about the other things.

Modifié par MACharlie1, 16 mars 2012 - 08:09 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

He doesn't understand that it's an opinion, and THAT opinion should not be shunned nor criticized just because HE wants to have the better preference. He is being a jerk.

He needs to learn to keep the bashing to himself.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 16 mars 2012 - 08:13 .

[MisterJB]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
There are NO flaws. I could care less about the other things. The other topic YOU mentioned have nothing to do with saving the Galaxy. I did save the Galaxy for the needs of the many. The many, serving for those who want the Reapers Destroyed and freedom to be restored.

Yes, there is. You said that the "Needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."
Very well. However, the Reapers are more numerous than organics. Therefor, their needs have primacy over ours. Therefore, your Shepard should help the Reapers.
If you are going to apply double standards. Something like "The needs of the Reapers are unimportant regardless of how many they are" then make it clear.

You have got to stop being such a jerk.

And you have to stop being so sensitive. If you are not willing to have your arguments countered by someone that disagrees with them, you should not be posting in a discussion forum.

[flemm]

Roxpanda1690 wrote...

Yeah your probably right it's most likely wishful thinking

Well, in the long run, I wouldn't be shocked if something were adjusted, but I mean that, for the moment, I don't think anything has been said on the subject.

[MACharlie1]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

He doesn't understand that it's an opinion, and THAT opinion should not be shunned nor criticized because HE wants to have the better preference. He is being a jerk.

As this is a discussion thread, he is fully within his rights (as far as Bioware terms and agreements are concerned) to voice his dissent and point out any flaws he finds in your opinion. It's called "debate". Debate is what [Sarah Palin accent] makes this country of ours so great. [Sarah Palin wink] 

And for the record, I was merely correcting your linguistics. I couldn't care less about either one of your opinions. 

Modifié par MACharlie1, 16 mars 2012 - 08:16 .