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[enayasoul]

Yannkee wrote...

enayasoul wrote...

I think I'll go hang out in the Liara thread. At least, their more positive and demanding dlc for their love interest. You guys are such downers and never hopeful or wanting more. I demand more favoritism for our beloved Miranda!

Agreed.


What I would like to see in a romance DLC :
- A conclusion (a happy one if they are both alive, a bittersweet one if Shepard is dead).
- At least one more date / conversation with Miranda on the citadel.
- The possibility to invite her on the Normandy.
- Longer version of the romance scene in the appartment (or a goodbye scene rather than being teleported outside of the appartment).

Yes! I felt the romance scene in the apartment was too short... and being teleported outside was a wtf moment. That's it.
No goodbye kiss or talk after?

[flemm]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Of course we *want * more. But be realistic. Has Bioware ever made a DLC that not all players can play?

It's not "being realistic." A Miranda DLC could easily be playable for everyone, simply not in certain imported games (and a small percentage of those).

Given the way ME3's story works, DLC for the single player mission would be designed to increase replayability anyway, primarily.

[TomY90]

technically it is possible to do so considering certain missions have occured without those squad members being around for instance Sanctuary still happens even if Miranda didnt survive, Grunt still happens etc.

so I think if there was any DLC missions that get added they will just make it that you can still do the mission but you will miss out on dialogue etc if Miranda did not survive.

[pyro_technician]

enayasoul wrote...

pyro_technician wrote...

On third playthrough now and just got the datapad app, I'm gonna see if she sends me any mail on it.

 What is this datapad app from?  What's it about? Where do you get it?

Sorry to get back to this so late, but it's an app on the iphone/ipad that allows you to 'get mail' from squadmates and a few other people as well as work on your galaxy at war online thing..sort of. 

[flemm]

TomY90 wrote...

so I think if there was any DLC missions that get added they will just make it that you can still do the mission but you will miss out on dialogue etc if Miranda did not survive.

There's a small hurdle to be overcome, either in how the DLC is built or how it is marketted, but certainly not an insurmountable one. Not everybody buys every DLC regardless. Anyway, that's not our problem.

All we have to do is ask for it

Modifié par flemm, 20 mars 2012 - 03:17 .

[enayasoul]

I've noticed after going back to do a few scenes with different characters and seeing the romance version vs the non-romance... they are almost identical except for a line or two that was changed. Same thing could apply if they wanted to go that route. I was wondering about all these "dates" the character had...well they did happen but most of them were just friends meeting up andtalking.

Was anyone else hoping to give Miranda a gift bought from the hospital vendor instead of it being just used for the VS. That would have been sweet if Shepard gave Miranda a rose.

Modifié par enayasoul, 20 mars 2012 - 03:23 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

If only there was a Date with Miri on the Citadel.

[flemm]

enayasoul wrote...

Was anyone else hoping to give Miranda a gift bought from the hospital vendor instead of it being just used for the VS. That would have been sweet if Shepard gave Miranda a rose.

Hmm, yeah, would have been nice

Modifié par flemm, 20 mars 2012 - 04:24 .

[Ieldra]

flemm wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Of course we *want * more. But be realistic. Has Bioware ever made a DLC that not all players can play?

It's not "being realistic." A Miranda DLC could easily be playable for everyone, simply not in certain imported games (and a small percentage of those).

Given the way ME3's story works, DLC for the single player mission would be designed to increase replayability anyway, primarily.

Not in certain imported games = not for everyone. Just pointing out a flaw in your logic. You also forget: if a DLC had significant romance content for one character, then it will be less interesting for the majority who didn't romance that character. And I haven't even started on the problem of bringing Strahovski back.

So yes, I'll support any request for such a DLC, and of course I would pay for it, but I can't see it happening. Tbh, I think we're better off writing our own stories. Not that I wouldn't like to be proven wrong....

[flemm]

Ieldra2 wrote...
Not in certain imported games = not for everyone. Just pointing out a flaw in your logic.

There's no flaw in the logic, actually, since everybody would be able to access it (by not importing) 

Some people wouldn't, but that is true of all DLC, i.e. some people choose not to access it.

Anyway, calculating the probabilities, etc. is not really important for us.

Modifié par flemm, 20 mars 2012 - 04:31 .

[Ieldra]

enayasoul wrote...
I've noticed after going back to do a few scenes with different characters and seeing the romance version vs the non-romance... they are almost identical except for a line or two that was changed. Same thing could apply if they wanted to go that route. I was wondering about all these "dates" the character had...well they did happen but most of them were just friends meeting up andtalking.

Was anyone else hoping to give Miranda a gift bought from the hospital vendor instead of it being just used for the VS. That would have been sweet if Shepard gave Miranda a rose.

Fortunately, I already knew that I couldn't buy gifts for Miranda, or I would've been very disappointed. I recall how annoyed I was when I read about those gifts in the leaked script. I don't know what I would've bought her. Probably something a little more unusual and tailored to what she likes. A recording of Nielsen's 5th symphony conducted by someone famous, plus some chocolate, for instance.

[Caihn]

Ieldra2 wrote...

The Normandy visit would be hard to integrate, with Miranda being ex-Cerberus and all. I would settle for a meeting in a nice location....somewhere. I agree about the rest.

Why ?

I can have on board :
- an AI (who has full control of the Normandy)
- the SB with her network
- ambassadors of many species (even a geth !), 
- some ex-cerberus crew
I also have the possibility to tell the VS to get out of my ship.

But I can't have a visit in my quarters of my former XO who saved my life, help me to destroy the collectors, proved she can be trusted, and is chased by Cerberus top assassin ?

Modifié par Yannkee, 20 mars 2012 - 04:48 .

[flemm]

Yannkee wrote...
But I can't have a visit in my quarters of my former XO who saved my life, help me to destroy the collectors, proved she can be trusted, and is chased by Cerberus top assassin ?

Agreed. It shouldn't be a problem at all. If anything, having Miranda onboard at some point would be interesting for a whole variety of reasons, even leaving aside the romance.

[Melra]

enayasoul wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

enayasoul wrote...

I think I'll go hang out in the Liara thread. At least, their more positive and demanding dlc for their love interest. You guys are such downers and never hopeful or wanting more. I demand more favoritism for our beloved Miranda!

Agreed.


What I would like to see in a romance DLC :
- A conclusion (a happy one if they are both alive, a bittersweet one if Shepard is dead).
- At least one more date / conversation with Miranda on the citadel.
- The possibility to invite her on the Normandy.
- Longer version of the romance scene in the appartment (or a goodbye scene rather than being teleported outside of the appartment).

Yes! I felt the romance scene in the apartment was too short... and being teleported outside was a wtf moment. That's it.
No goodbye kiss or talk after?

Yeah, they could've finished it better. Though one has to work with what I get.

[Caihn]

flemm wrote...

Yannkee wrote...
But I can't have a visit in my quarters of my former XO who saved my life, help me to destroy the collectors, proved she can be trusted, and is chased by Cerberus top assassin ?

Agreed. It shouldn't be a problem at all. If anything, having Miranda onboard at some point would be interesting for a whole variety of reasons, even leaving aside the romance.

Miranda should have been on the Normandy after Sanctuary. EDI for the assault on TIM's base instead of Miranda is just insulting.

[o Ventus]

Yannkee wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

The Normandy visit would be hard to integrate, with Miranda being ex-Cerberus and all. I would settle for a meeting in a nice location....somewhere. I agree about the rest.

Why ?

I can have on board :
- an AI (who has full control of the Normandy)
- the SB with her network
- ambassadors of many species (even a geth !), 
- some ex-cerberus crew
I also have the possibility to tell the VS to get out of my ship.

But I can't have a visit in my quarters of my former XO who saved my life, help me to destroy the collectors, proved she can be trusted, and is chased by Cerberus top assassin ?

This. The "But the Alliance owns the Normandy now, and Miranda is ex-Cerberus" argument holds little to no water at all.

[flemm]

Yannkee wrote...
Miranda should have been on the Normandy after Sanctuary. EDI for the assault on TIM's base instead of Miranda is just insulting.

Yes, she should. EDI's involvement is fine, I think, since she has to cover for when Miranda's not there anyway. But when Miranda's there, the situation should work differently, and Miranda should provide a new option that isn't there otherwise.

This is similar to how other sections of the game work with "might be dead" squad members.

Modifié par flemm, 20 mars 2012 - 05:05 .

[jtav]

flemm wrote...

Yannkee wrote...
Miranda should have been on the Normandy after Sanctuary. EDI for the assault on TIM's base instead of Miranda is just insulting.

Yes, she should. EDI's involvement is fine, I think, since she has to cover for when Miranda's not there anyway. But when Miranda's there, the situation should work differently, and Miranda should provide a new option that isn't there otherwise.

This is similar to how other sections of the game work with "might be dead" squad members.

*coughTIWcough*

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

*coughTIWcough*

Well, *something* anyway

I think a few different things could work, but they would all involve getting war assets from that mission that you can't get otherwise.

It's not rocket science

Simplest version would just be Miranda being able to rally what's left of Cerberus for the war effort once she is at the base. But there are other ideas that could work, some more ambitious than others.

Modifié par flemm, 20 mars 2012 - 05:10 .

[Dr. Doctor]

flemm wrote...

Agreed. It shouldn't be a problem at all. If anything, having Miranda onboard at some point would be interesting for a whole variety of reasons, even leaving aside the romance.

Especially after Sanctuary, it would make sense to have her along in a temporary role should she survive the previous mission. Perhaps get a bonus War Asset on Cronus Station for having her. Or altenatively you can have her and her team assisst in the Crucible Project if you so desire.

You could have her fighter squadron provide support for the Alliance forces engaging Cerberus around the station while Shepard, Miranda, and the squad board the station. Have Miranda discuss her feeling on what the organization has become, perhaps a little something about the Lazarus Project, etc.

I can understand that Bioware ran into a crunch, it happens. But it would be nice if they could go back in, do what they wanted to do originally now that they're not working towards a launch date and bring it out as a "director's cut" DLC for customers who bought the game.

[o Ventus]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

I can understand that Bioware ran into a crunch, it happens. But it would be nice if they could go back in, do what they wanted to do originally now that they're not working towards a launch date and bring it out as a "director's cut" DLC for customers who bought the game.

Do want.

[o Ventus]

flemm wrote...

Yannkee wrote...
Miranda should have been on the Normandy after Sanctuary. EDI for the assault on TIM's base instead of Miranda is just insulting.

Yes, she should. EDI's involvement is fine, I think, since she has to cover for when Miranda's not there anyway. But when Miranda's there, the situation should work differently, and Miranda should provide a new option that isn't there otherwise.

This is similar to how other sections of the game work with "might be dead" squad members.

I was honestly thinking EDI was the sort of "fallback" option for a Miranda-dead scenario, similar to how you get a generic geth VI on Rannoch if Legion is dead.

Apparently, that isn't the case at all. I am disappoint.

[jtav]

Thing is, I don't think they had any original plans along those lines. Miranda's role is to suffer, but not redeem. The original plan was classic damsel in distress, but they changed their mind. But Miranda's role is still basically that of victim.

[flemm]

o Ventus wrote...

I was honestly thinking EDI was the sort of "fallback" option for a Miranda-dead scenario, similar to how you get a generic geth VI on Rannoch if Legion is dead.

Well, it *could* work that way. It doesn't in actual fact, though it's hard to say how much of this is due to the crunch hitting around that time.

[TomY90]

jtav wrote...

Thing is, I don't think they had any original plans along those lines. Miranda's role is to suffer, but not redeem. The original plan was classic damsel in distress, but they changed their mind. But Miranda's role is still basically that of victim.

that is true she does seem to get punished for her actions considering she is on the run from cerberus assassins and her sister (who is the only thing she holds dear to herself apart from shepard if you romanced her).

which in ME3 her whole piece in ME3 is not redemption but sacrifice.

considering she is willing to sacrifice everything just to ensure her sister has the normal life she deserves.