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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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Ieldra

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...
But these descriptions of the face cards...do they differ from source to source? Because it does seem a bit outdated that the male card gets all the virtues while the female equivalent gets laden with the old "deceitful sex" shtick.


This site: http://www3.sympatic...d_meanings.html

Has Queen of spades meaning: "Calculating, disciplined, logical, craves power"

I'm sure jtav likes that :P

I love it, too!

#4327
vorianxavier

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LiquidGrape wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

According to the site queen of hearts is: "A kindly fair-haired woman."


Kindly?
Fair-haired?

*Chakwas pic*

I can dig it, doctor.


I can dig it too! :wub: Of course, I accidentally designed one of my Sheps to look like Chakwas' lost daughter, so that always adds to their dynamic now.

Modifié par vorianxavier, 11 juillet 2011 - 07:07 .


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Vertigo_1

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Ieldra2 wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...
But these descriptions of the face cards...do they differ from source to source? Because it does seem a bit outdated that the male card gets all the virtues while the female equivalent gets laden with the old "deceitful sex" shtick.


This site: http://www3.sympatic...d_meanings.html

Has Queen of spades meaning: "Calculating, disciplined, logical, craves power"

I'm sure jtav likes that :P

I love it, too!


I don't like the 'craves power' part otherwise I agree.

I wasn't expecting this to get so big, then again this is a fun twist to the thread IMO

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 11 juillet 2011 - 07:08 .


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MisterJB wrote...

Dr. MichelPosted Image

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What?Posted Image It's possible.

Considering the deck will have 54 cards, they need 54 characters. So, Dr. Michel will likely be there somewhere. Not sure if it would be as a Queen (her role isn't that large in the whole scheme of things).

Wonder what card Jack would be. ;)

#4330
Vertigo_1

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Td1984 wrote...
Wonder what card Jack would be. ;)


Perhaps Jack of Spades?

"Immature, cold, bossy, delinquent or gang leader"

Though I don't want to turn this into some kind of hate thread...

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 11 juillet 2011 - 07:16 .


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How would everyone else react to Miranda being in a reduced role in ME3?

I really don't know. But it would be....radical. Anything from posting endless rants here to going back to my ME2 playthroughs and killing off Tali and Jack in every single one of them. Yeah, petty and childish and it won't achieve anything, but at least I'd have a target for my resentment since it won't do to mailbomb the developers.

It would make ME3 the most disappointing final of any epic series of books, films, tv shows or games I've ever been emotionally invested in.


I'm still waiting on details of her involvement in ME3 to know if I'm going to keep my CE pre-order or cancel it...

If I'm not happy then I can see myself doing a considerable amount of ranting too!

#4332
Vertigo_1

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I doubt they would do a reduced role for Miranda, her being a high ranking operative of Cerberus the very organization that is after Shepard in ME3 and 'working for the Reapers'.

Although if they do reduce her role, I will be sad :(
(and perhaps rant)

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I honestly believe some of you are worrying too much. Like said before we have 8 months left. I doubt they want to reveal everything, especially if it spoils some of the plot. A lot of other characters haven't heard anything either, it's really only those confirmed. Now, I don't know if Miranda will be a permanent squadmate, but I imagine she will still have a big role regardless, especially with her involvement with Cerberus.

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

Td1984 wrote...
Wonder what card Jack would be. ;)


Perhaps Jack of Spades?

"Immature, cold, bossy, delinquent or gang leader"

Though I don't want to turn this into some kind of hate thread...


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We don't mean it in a negative way. That's simply how we view her personality. I don't actually hate any of the characters, just like them less than others.

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LiquidGrape

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

Td1984 wrote...
Wonder what card Jack would be. ;)


Perhaps Jack of Spades?

"Immature, cold, bossy, delinquent or gang leader"

Though I don't want to turn this into some kind of hate thread...


Personally I would say Jack is an Ace of Spades based on the description in that link.

"Knowledge gained. Obstacles revealed."

Reducing her to "immature", "cold" and such would be doing the complexity of her character a disservice in the same way as calling Miranda "unscrupulous" would be.

Modifié par LiquidGrape, 11 juillet 2011 - 08:49 .


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Jack is hot headed, not cold. Other than that Jack would make a good Jack of Spades. Calling her immature isn't an unfair assesment. It isn't a choice as much as consequence but it is indeed a fault she carries. She does grow and develop as a charcter however as LG above me pointed out. For better or for worse is yet to be seen.

Modifié par naledgeborn, 11 juillet 2011 - 09:01 .


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 There seems to be a lot of worrying about Miranda and more peope want to have some type of news about her. So maybe someone could ask Casey Hudson about her through twitter? Or maybe a whole bunch of people can ask him so we can defintely get some form of news. But I don't have a twitter account, so I can't do this.

Modifié par KamikazeShepard, 11 juillet 2011 - 08:53 .


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Grunk wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Let me challenge the double standard here: which kind of gesture carrying a similar mood would you find appropriate for Miranda giving Shepard?


Well, since this is a pro-Miranda thread, I know what you mean. I'd much rather see Miranda do it to Shep than vice-versa. I guess I really meant I don't want to take a butt smack off the table is all. If it involves Miranda, she definitely ought ot be the one doing it.



Wait....what?  So it's ok for a woman to smack a guy's butt but not the other way around?  It's the future...if they've eliminated one thing by then I would hope it's double standards.

How about we just take the common sense approach and say that any butt smacking can be appropriate as long as a relationship is established first (i.e. me and my wife).  If it's a person making sexual contact with someone they're not in an intimate relationship with, I think we can all agree that would be inappropriate, regardless of gender.

+1 for fewer gender based stereotypes and mores.

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Many people have already asked him about Miranda. The answer is always the same "She'll be in the game, to say anything else would be a spoiler."

The ASoIF fanbase has a maxim that I think can be applied to this situation:
"Every time you ask George R.R. Martin when his next book will be finished… he kills a Stark."

#4340
KamikazeShepard

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MisterJB wrote...

Many people have already asked him about Miranda. The answer is always the same "She'll be in the game, to say anything else would be a spoiler."

The ASoIF fanbase has a maxim that I think can be applied to this situation:
"Every time you ask George R.R. Martin when his next book will be finished… he kills a Stark."


What is the "ASoIF fanbase"?

#4341
Vertigo_1

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LiquidGrape wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Td1984 wrote...
Wonder what card Jack would be. ;)


Perhaps Jack of Spades?

"Immature, cold, bossy, delinquent or gang leader"

Though I don't want to turn this into some kind of hate thread...


Personally I would say Jack is an Ace of Spades based on the description in that link.

"Knowledge gained. Obstacles revealed."

Reducing her to "immature", "cold" and such would be doing the complexity of her character a disservice in the same way as calling Miranda "unscrupulous" would be.


No one is calling her that.

Every site has a different interpretation of what each suit means (the specifics I mean).
I wouldn't put too much thought into it, as it is just playing cards were talking about (and thought it would be fun thing to explore).
Besides I bet when they did research on where each character would fit I doubt they used specific descriptions that we found to place each character appropriately.  I think it was more general.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 11 juillet 2011 - 09:08 .


#4342
MisterJB

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KamikazeShepard wrote...
What is the "ASoIF fanbase"?

"A Song of Ice and Fire"

And just so (get it? I'm hilarious, I know) this post isn't completely useless, here's something that'll annoy jtav.

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Modifié par MisterJB, 11 juillet 2011 - 09:13 .


#4343
naledgeborn

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MisterJB wrote...

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Liara is gonna hate Shepard. I can't wait! :D

#4344
KamikazeShepard

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MisterJB wrote...

KamikazeShepard wrote...
What is the "ASoIF fanbase"?

"A Song of Ice and Fire"

And just so (get it? I'm hilarious, I know) this post isn't completely useless, here's something that'll annoy jtav.


I'm still kinda lost, What exactly is this "A song of Ice and Fire"? Does it have something to with Liara and Miranda?

#4345
Ieldra

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KamikazeShepard wrote...
There seems to be a lot of worrying about Miranda and more peope want to have some type of news about her. So maybe someone could ask Casey Hudson about her through twitter? Or maybe a whole bunch of people can ask him so we can defintely get some form of news. But I don't have a twitter account, so I can't do this.

We do that regularly, in answer to questions like "What do you want to see next?" They appear to be particularly tight-lipped about Miranda. Which is what gets us worried. Miranda has lots of story potential, but there are any number of reasons not related to the actual story why it might not be realized.

As for the other thing: look here (more in-depth discussion would be OT here)

Modifié par Ieldra2, 11 juillet 2011 - 09:41 .


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KamikazeShepard wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

KamikazeShepard wrote...
What is the "ASoIF fanbase"?

"A Song of Ice and Fire"

And just so (get it? I'm hilarious, I know) this post isn't completely useless, here's something that'll annoy jtav.


I'm still kinda lost, What exactly is this "A song of Ice and Fire"? Does it have something to with Liara and Miranda?


No.
It's a series of novels.

I believe MisterJB was just using it as an analogy, for not bothering the devs too much for info on Miranda.

#4347
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What Ares said.

Also, haven't seen this pic on this thread yet.
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#4348
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MisterJB wrote...

What Ares said.

Also, haven't seen this pic on this thread yet.
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L<3VE IT!!!! <3<3<3<3:wub:

#4349
KamikazeShepard

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AresXX7 wrote...

KamikazeShepard wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

KamikazeShepard wrote...
What is the "ASoIF fanbase"?

"A Song of Ice and Fire"

And just so (get it? I'm hilarious, I know) this post isn't completely useless, here's something that'll annoy jtav.


I'm still kinda lost, What exactly is this "A song of Ice and Fire"? Does it have something to with Liara and Miranda?


No.
It's a series of novels.

I believe MisterJB was just using it as an analogy, for not bothering the devs too much for info on Miranda.


Ahh, I see. 

#4350
Perfecti0nist

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KamikazeShepard wrote...

AresXX7 wrote...

KamikazeShepard wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

KamikazeShepard wrote...
What is the "ASoIF fanbase"?

"A Song of Ice and Fire"

And just so (get it? I'm hilarious, I know) this post isn't completely useless, here's something that'll annoy jtav.


I'm still kinda lost, What exactly is this "A song of Ice and Fire"? Does it have something to with Liara and Miranda?


No.
It's a series of novels.

I believe MisterJB was just using it as an analogy, for not bothering the devs too much for info on Miranda.


Ahh, I see. 

Don't tell me you don't watch Game of Thrones. You're missing out.